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Made in cz
Mysterious Techpriest






Fortress world of Ostrakan

Hello!

Not long ago I got an idea to use Tarantulas as sort of charge buffers on chokepoints or flanks against very fast units (bikes, genestealers, orks etc...)
Idea is to deploy them and then place some guardsmen beyond the consolidation move. Enemy unit has no option either to charge the tarantula or go elsewere. Situation where the tarantula is destroyed does not hurt so much (especially if it kills some on overwatch or in an explosion) and it leaves the charging unit vulnerable to punishing close-range return-fire or in safe charge distance, with only a minor loss. What do you think of this strategy? Is it viable?

Why tarantulas?
- Fairly cheap (20ppm + guns), Guard varians can be squdroned
- 2 Heavy bolters / 2 Lascannons
- Fairly durable (roughly as a Sentinel), can explode
- They can shoot into their own close combat range
- Other units can safely shoot at units in close combat with Tarantula
- Is not exactly small and created a good DS denial area too
- Downside is that it only shoots the closest infantry or vehicle unit (depending on loadout) and they are automatically hit in close combat. And they are immobile, of course, but can we towed by Centaurs

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Neutran Panzergrenadiers, Ostrakan Skitarii Legions, Order of the Silver Hand
My fan-lore: Europan Planetary federation. Hot topic: Help with Minotaurs chapter Killteam






 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut




I'm all about the Heavy Bolter ones for Marines. It's a good way to fill the FA slot and has little downside to it.

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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut



Glasgow

Guard ones are better different datasheet i've run 9 at a few tournaments
   
Made in cz
Mysterious Techpriest






Fortress world of Ostrakan

I think they are HS slot. At least for the Elysians.


Neutran Panzergrenadiers, Ostrakan Skitarii Legions, Order of the Silver Hand
My fan-lore: Europan Planetary federation. Hot topic: Help with Minotaurs chapter Killteam






 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut



Glasgow

HS -AM
FA- Astartes

Different datasheets

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Made in dk
Loyal Necron Lychguard






Keep in mind your opponent can move around your Tarantulas in the Pile In step so unless you have enough Tarantulas to completely block that your opponent will still consolidate into your Guardsmen behind the Tarantulas.

Disregard the following, I didn't read the datasheet thoroughly.
Spoiler:
Their inability to fall back makes them a liability more than an asset, all you have to do is end your Fight phase within 1" of one of them and you have a get out of shooting free card. Put them behind your Guardsmen, those are a much more effective screen, they have the ability to fall back which is crucial, they can even be ordered to shoot after falling back. The Catachan guys can be made amazing in CC so if your opponent tries to surround you and not kill you he's in for a whooping. Them being a cheap tough wall is only worth so much, I'd rather take a bunker for the purpose of having an immobile DS buffer since you can shoot into a combat with it, put a heavy bolter/lascannon/missile launcher heavy weapons team inside since the bunker removes the downside of their low durability and limited LOS.

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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut



Glasgow

See the automated artillery rule

"This unit cannot move for any unit, not can it fight in the Fight phase. Enemy models automatically hit this model in the Fight phase - do not make hit rolls. However, this model can still shoot if there are enemy models within 1" of it, and friendly units can still target enemy units that are within 1" of this model."

That enables enemys do be shot by your entire army even if they are in 1" of the tarantula

Alao guard ones are deployed in up to 3's (why would you use less) and count as seperate units you have to consolidate towards the nearest unit so normally another tarantula so just keep your next line a few " back unless he can dish out 15 T5 W when splitting his attacks across 3 targets he can't get to your infantry and the tarrantula he can get to gives him no protection
   
Made in cz
Mysterious Techpriest






Fortress world of Ostrakan

Next thing is that if the enemy wants to destroy those guns in shooting phase, which he'll try to do, he'll have to use some stronger weapons (S5+) to destroy them effectively, which will ease some of your other units in the second line.

With the prepared positions stratagem, those things are T5 W5 3+ armor, which is not exactly bad per se.


Neutran Panzergrenadiers, Ostrakan Skitarii Legions, Order of the Silver Hand
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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut



Glasgow

Also being seperate units once deployed means your opponent has to select which guns are fireing at which the number of times i've had one survivong on 1 or 2 W.
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut




Now you why I love them for Marines, which can really make use of the blocking and still being able to shoot at enemies.

I couldn't even imagine how amazing it is for Guard Gunline.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
 
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