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hi all!
how does acid maw upgrade work?

a genestealer model with rending claws and scything talons and acid maw has 3 different weapons to choose witch one will use for its attacks?

or is acid maw an upgrade on the model witch compliments his weapon of choice.

for example if he chooses to use the scything talons to attack he gets to re-roll failed rolls of 1 and use the good AP of acid maw for that model?

Acid maw is another CC weapon, in addition to claws and talons. You have to say which weapon(s) you choose to attack with, before you roll. You cant re-roll a 1 for scything talons and use that for acid maw.

You will pretty much always use all your attacks for Acid Maw if you have one. It more or less makes the talons and claws redundant, but seeing as they're all free it doesn't matter too much!

The only time you'd not use the maw is against a target who's Invuln is equal to or greater than their normal save. Most commonly Daemons. Then the talons would be better. Maybe there's one or two other very niche uses but that's about it!

 p5freak wrote:
Acid maw is another CC weapon, in addition to claws and talons. You have to say which weapon(s) you choose to attack with, before you roll. You cant re-roll a 1 for scything talons and use that for acid maw.

how i can do that if they are different weapons? i mean using the rerolled one for the maw.

on nvm i read can instead of cant! thanks

 Stux wrote:
You will pretty much always use all your attacks for Acid Maw if you have one. It more or less makes the talons and claws redundant, but seeing as they're all free it doesn't matter too much!

The only time you'd not use the maw is against a target who's Invuln is equal to or greater than their normal save. Most commonly Daemons. Then the talons would be better. Maybe there's one or two other very niche uses but that's about it!

I wouldnt use the acid maw against hordes of cultists, ork boyz, poxwalkers, etc. The talons are better with one additional attack.

 p5freak wrote:

 Stux wrote:
You will pretty much always use all your attacks for Acid Maw if you have one. It more or less makes the talons and claws redundant, but seeing as they're all free it doesn't matter too much!

The only time you'd not use the maw is against a target who's Invuln is equal to or greater than their normal save. Most commonly Daemons. Then the talons would be better. Maybe there's one or two other very niche uses but that's about it!

I wouldnt use the acid maw against hordes of cultists, ork boyz, poxwalkers, etc. The talons are better with one additional attack.

they dont give additional attack cause it is only 1 pair...but you get to reroll 1s to hit

Against cultists you are still better off using the Maw. Even using 1 point of the AP makes enough enough difference to outweigh the re-roll 1s.

 Stux wrote:
Against cultists you are still better off using the Maw. Even using 1 point of the AP makes enough enough difference to outweigh the re-roll 1s.

Acid maw is better for almost everything. Talons are better againgst demon troops and againgst grots when buffed by a broodlord.

Scything talons is only good against models with no armor save or only an invul save. If the model has even a 6+, rending claws is better.

Rending claws is better if you only wound on sixes, like a knight, cause then you only rend. It is better then scything claws however.

Otherwise go acid maw.