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How bad will it be? Place yer bets, genn'elmen!

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/01/11/iron-man-writers-to-script-he-man-and-masters-of-the-universe-movie?fbclid=IwAR0WfsnnsgsaSSnX8VV6kHg-Wa2rvvZphg9ZjX8M4TxoSA2h8l1Kc9Qx1nI

A He-man and the masters of the universe movie.....

Edited by ingtaer, please try to be descriptive in your title.

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I don't see how they could possibly write a decent film in that IP given today's suffocating guilt-laden cultural climate.
   
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Bad enough to result in ptsd, sure.

 
   
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 Elbows wrote:
I don't see how they could possibly write a decent film in that IP given today's suffocating guilt-laden cultural climate.


Maybe my memory of He-man is a bit blurry, but I would describe it as PG version of Conan in space if every single character turned out to be a gay icon of the 80's. He-man always was an absolutly terrible show (unless they made a remake since the 80's) and it spawned a very bad movie. If they make another live action movie, I hope they will gear it toward kids. Trying to make it into anything else will make it lose its corny nature, which is pretty much the only redeaming quality of the show in my opinion.

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Well, first and foremost, if it’s to have any chance at all the entire plot must be set in Eternia. Second, and along the same lines, the film will need to have a completely earnest visual style. Retro does not have to be ironic. Third, there is one vital lesson to be learned from Gary Goddard’s film (besides, don’t pull all the money before the scenes have been filmed): He-Man is not main character material. Skeletor is your best bet to actually interest the audience.

   
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The main problem you've got it who to market it too. If you market it to fans you've got a smaller target audience who will know what is going on and who all the sub-characters are - but you can get the film off to a fast start.

If you market toward newbies then you've got a risk that you end up with another Suicide Squad film - ergo loads of core and support characters and no time at all in the film to actually flesh each one out and flesh out the main plot and flesh out the bad guy all in 2 hours - possibly 2.5.


Then again they might get a film off the ground enough that they can then launch a TV series off the back of it and reboot there.

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Masters of the Universe Cinematic Universe now! Isn't there a She-ra series currently?

Actually, what would be a glorious disaster would be an attempt to make a cinematic universe of all the old 80s toy lines, in a big-budget recreation of the battles being played out in kids' bedrooms.

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 Riquende wrote:
Masters of the Universe Cinematic Universe now! Isn't there a She-ra series currently?

Actually, what would be a glorious disaster would be an attempt to make a cinematic universe of all the old 80s toy lines, in a big-budget recreation of the battles being played out in kids' bedrooms.


That's what LEGO movies are for darn it!

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I’m looking forward to it.

He-Man was a massive part of my childhood.

   
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It's going to be a disaster, which is why I titled this post "Incoming disaster sighted! " The question is how big a disaster. It might get enough 40 somethings eager for a nostalgia fix to come in and make it break even.

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Tech you need a more positive outlook on films

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As Manchu suggested, would definitely watch a Skeletor story where He-Man is a periphery character. Otherwise pretty hard pass.

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The real question is will he be So Money Supermarket!?

(UK peeps might be the only ones to get this ad reference)

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Could be fun - Iron Man was a watershed movie.

Problem is if they make a "fun" movie - doubltess have the usual worthless film critics complaining about the lack of subversion of the medium or not enough emotional depth for the battlecat character or similar BS

The real question is will he be So Money Supermarket!?


Certainly raised the profile over here


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If they go full Aquaman and just own the craziness of the setting and characters, it could be a fun ride. These days the budget doesn't even need to be too high if they plan ahead.

   
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epronovost wrote:

(unless they made a remake since the 80's)


At least twice..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Adventures_of_He-Man
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-Man_and_the_Masters_of_the_Universe_(2002_TV_series)

Plus She Ra got an update in 2018 (but is completely different in style and tone now.)

The 2002 series looks like a decent attempt to move with the times, at least visually. Sadly the content is still soundly of "small boy" appeal, and as an adult I only found I could watch a few episodes out of curiosity.



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There's probably as much interest in He Man now as there was in Iron Man prior to the first movie.

Then there's this image of a supposed pre production concept that's been doing the rounds for a few years..


If it's in the hands of people who know and care about the property, then I'd be cautiously optimistic.

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 Manchu wrote:
Well, first and foremost, if it’s to have any chance at all the entire plot must be set in Eternia. Second, and along the same lines, the film will need to have a completely earnest visual style. Retro does not have to be ironic. Third, there is one vital lesson to be learned from Gary Goddard’s film (besides, don’t pull all the money before the scenes have been filmed): He-Man is not main character material. Skeletor is your best bet to actually interest the audience.


I'm quite hopeful. I think Aquaman is a very good omen for this sort of property (along with Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, etc)--it shows that you can get a good and profitable movie out of a very corny and silly premise. You just need actors with some charisma, a script that isn't embarrassed about what it is, and a willingness to be earnest.

And thought grimming it up would be a catastrophic mistake, there's no need to wallow in camp and oh-so-ironic winks to the audience either. The setting and characters are a perfectly solid fantasy property--a planet divided between the powers of light and darkness, technological wonders existing alongside sorcery, and haunted wilderness with monsters in it, along with portals to other worlds.

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He-Man origin story has legs. Also allows room for some reimagining.

The great thing about the original source is that this movie can play it Poe-faced or ridiculously camp - and it’ll still match the original.

Also, utterly baffled that people are writing it off without knowing anything about the film itself?

   
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@Elemental — you raise a fine point, regarding actors with charisma. Other than Frank Langella, this is something Goddard’s movie entirely lacked. Pretty terrible to cast an uncharismatic He-Man.

@Ouze — How do you rate the old film?

   
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I like the old movie, and I was a huge fan of the cartoon.

Considering the quality of modern high budget movies, that is tipycally mediocre, I'm not particularly excited for a possible remake. But I'll probably see it anyway.

 
   
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What I'd love to see is someone taking all these old reboots and maybe not be so serious with them. Have a little fun and make something humorous.

I don't mean totally disrespecting them, I mean- all the oddball things we thought about looking back on the classic franchises, maybe take that and just go with it for laughs.

Say what you want about Transformers- and it was not a good saga (have yet to see Bumblebee), but there were some parts that made me chuckle at the silliness.

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I saw the movie when I was 11. I remember thinking it was confusing but ultimately liking it... but I also liked strawberry milk in that timeframe so my judgement might not hold up super well.

I haven't yet rewatched it as an adult.

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There was a guy a long while back who made a bunch of concept art reimagining He Man as a more mature concept. The art was all top notch and the stories he wrote for them were pretty good.

I found his descriptions.

http://comicartistevolution.tumblr.com/post/103187127576/marko-djurdjevics-masters-of-the-universe


He made skeletor less buff and more of an evil sorcerer. Instead of him just being an evil he man the contrast between warrior and sorcerer was more interesting.

I remember Man-e-faces was not a guy with weird head gear and lots of faces. The head gear was sentient and controlled the people it attached to as it drained their life force and turned them into husks before moving on to it's next host.

Triclops was Skeletors seer. With one eye seeing the past, one the future, and one the present.

A lot of neat ideas in there.

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 Lance845 wrote:
There was a guy a long while back who made a bunch of concept art reimagining He Man as a more mature concept. The art was all top notch and the stories he wrote for them were pretty good.
...A lot of neat ideas in there.


...that is probably the most metal and badass re-imagining of literally anything I have ever seen. That's even better than my re-imagining of the Brady Bunch with sex, drugs, and Charles Bronson.

Imagine if the 'humans' were all primitive and sort of tribal, like early vikings or barbarians, living on the remnants of a dead civilization long after technology has been forgotten.

Holy crap this is awesome. How did I not ever see this?

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I especially like this one.


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Ugh. What a tedious re-imagining that turns it into another pointless sink of nihilism. And the less said about Evil Lyn the better.

I'd rather have a new series based on the Grumpy Skeletor facebook page than that.
   
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Yeah... The Evilyn goes a bit far. Especially the full on nudity. She could still wear gak after that.

But I don't mind the scale to which skeletor is made evil and depraved and the ways in which characters who were all hulking muscle men warriors were given more varied and nuanced niches.

He-Man fighting from a weaker position is also more interesting. He might have the power of Grey Skull, but it seems besides that and a rag tag resistance it's all he has fighting against an entrenched and powerful forces of Snake Mountain.

It's always more interesting when the hero has to fight uphill.


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That would be an interesting setting. However the tone of that Polish artist's work comes across to me as "it's all gak. Nothing worth fighting for here". Even He-Man's stance and body language shows that. An outnumbered resistance needs a sense of hope, and there's none of that there.
   
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I'd be worried about a He-Man movie being attacked by screams of toxic masculinity.



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