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I got a leman Russ demolisher and used melta's for the first time with it and I have realised that using the demolisher ones you can't move the sponsoons properly as the wires catch but this isn't the case for the normal Leman Russ as the wires finish further forward so GW is just a bit special.

Does anyone own models like this, not like tau ankles for battle suits or inceptor stands but it physically doesn't work

Could you maybe post some pictures or a video to illustrate your point?

I'm afraid that I'm having some difficulty understanding what you mean.

Given the inflammatory title...cool story bro!

Maybe glue them in place so they feel less like toys with movable action parts! Excitement! (I'm looking at you Onager Dunecrawler and Tau flyers) and more like miniatures.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Maybe glue them in place so they feel less like toys with movable action parts! Excitement! (I'm looking at you Onager Dunecrawler and Tau flyers) and more like miniatures.

Eh, each to their own. I love me some movable parts. I have a Carnifex magnetised for every weapon/head/tail/carapace option. It's awesome!

The camera angle isn't the best but the unpainted melta is the demolisher one and as you can see the wire is to far back. I also saw one comment saying just glue it in place but I enter army on parade and it looks better at angles.

Hiring Matt Ward.

deotrims 16th wrote:
gamewise sometimes I've just been able to get cover by moving some of the guns so I can't do that

Don't do that. That is blatant TFG behaviour.

deotrims 16th wrote:
The camera angle isn't the best but the unpainted melta is the demolisher one and as you can see the wire is to far back. I also saw one comment saying just glue it in place but I enter army on parade and it looks better at angles and gamewise sometimes I've just been able to get cover by moving some of the guns so I can't do that

It looks like you have the sponsons in at a weird angle and they are pointed down. They should be level with the ground.

 Grimtuff wrote:

deotrims 16th wrote:
gamewise sometimes I've just been able to get cover by moving some of the guns so I can't do that

Don't do that. That is blatant TFG behaviour.

Maybe that behaviour is the real GW embarrassment the title refers to.

I own a fair few of both the new LRBT and new Demolisher kits.
Funnily enough, the hull sprue for both is exactly the same. I'm going to go with either builder error actually mounting the sponsons, or OP bought a bad knock-off.

Either way, I've never had this issue, and I own ~7 of the things. This isn't on Gee-dubs.

User issue not model issue. The slit of the tube part of the sponsons should end flat with the Front end of the sponson which it clearly does not in your picture.

Also consider cleaning up those mold lines and use less glue.

Actually, I just checked mine. My sponsons are assembled correctly, and if I push the multi-melta part in so it's flush like in the OP's picture, the cable indeed snags on the corner of the sponson. However, the weapons don't usually fit right into the socket, so they tend to sit a little proud unless you shave the "plug" down a bit, so they're usually a little too far forward, and thus rotate freely (If you look at the 360 view on the GW website, you'll see that the right-hand sponson multi-melta is pushed right into the socket while the left one is not. You can't compare the actual components from the 360 views of the Demolisher and Battle Tank because they've used exactly the same miniature for the product photography of both, just swapping the turrets.

However, it's a minor issue, that apparently no-one's noticed before, so it's hardly an "embarrisment".

 liquidjoshi wrote:
I own a fair few of both the new LRBT and new Demolisher kits.
Funnily enough, the hull sprue for both is exactly the same. I'm going to go with either builder error actually mounting the sponsons, or OP bought a bad knock-off.

Either way, I've never had this issue, and I own ~7 of the things. This isn't on Gee-dubs.

But I bought it from a GW store and if you look at the 2 multimelta you will see that the normal Leman Russ' cables are further to the muzzle


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Morkphoiz wrote:
User issue not model issue. The slit of the tube part of the sponsons should end flat with the Front end of the sponson which it clearly does not in your picture.

Also consider cleaning up those mold lines and use less glue.

I know but air bubble in glue made lot come out at once.


Also i'm over reacting in the title "just a little bit" I just get a tiny bit annoyed by stupid things.

Yeah.... You've used too much glue, you havent prepped your model for assembly properly and you havent assembled it correctly. Embarrassing for sure...

That is very odd.

I do see, looking at the middle picture (comparison of the guns) that the painted melta is about 3mm longer to the underslung cables - there's noticably a larger gap between the bolt in the depressed area on the underside of the gun back towards the connector.

At the same time, I've never noticed having this issue with my tanks, and I have 5 of them.

 Hollow wrote:
Yeah.... You've used too much glue, you havent prepped your model for assembly properly and you havent assembled it correctly. Embarrassing for sure...

I know read my last post about how that happened.

This is real 1st world gamer problems.

deotrims 16th wrote:
I got a leman Russ demolisher and used melta's for the first time with it and I have realised that using the demolisher ones you can't move the sponsoons properly as the wires catch but this isn't the case for the normal Leman Russ as the wires finish further forward so GW is just a bit special.

Does anyone own models like this, not like tau ankles for battle suits or inceptor stands but it physically doesn't work

Let me tell you a tale of flying bases.

GW's original design concept for a Flying Base was to take a brittle clear plastic stick, then have it terminate in a nice stress concentrating transition to a much THINNER brittle clear plastic stick, then just slap that on any old model regardless of size or stability. Wave serpents and Tau tanks had approximately 6-12 seconds of standing up before the little flying base snapped and crumbled to dust in its entirety. It was a dark time.

Then, in fifth edition, GW hit on an idea, an idea that had existed for a very very very very very very long time: What if we just made the joint a BALL instead of a PEG, and put a little interference fit between socket and ball so that you could stick it in without gluing it?

The fifth edition DE release had the most wonderful flying bases. Intuitive. Sturdy. storable.

Then, GW decided you know what, screw that interference fit. Just force our customers to glue the damn things. So every flying base since has still had the ball joint, but you have to glue your models onto it in order to make it work. Because feth you, that's why.

the_scotsman wrote:

deotrims 16th wrote:
I got a leman Russ demolisher and used melta's for the first time with it and I have realised that using the demolisher ones you can't move the sponsoons properly as the wires catch but this isn't the case for the normal Leman Russ as the wires finish further forward so GW is just a bit special.

Does anyone own models like this, not like tau ankles for battle suits or inceptor stands but it physically doesn't work

Let me tell you a tale of flying bases.

GW's original design concept for a Flying Base was to take a brittle clear plastic stick, then have it terminate in a nice stress concentrating transition to a much THINNER brittle clear plastic stick, then just slap that on any old model regardless of size or stability. Wave serpents and Tau tanks had approximately 6-12 seconds of standing up before the little flying base snapped and crumbled to dust in its entirety. It was a dark time.

Then, in fifth edition, GW hit on an idea, an idea that had existed for a very very very very very very long time: What if we just made the joint a BALL instead of a PEG, and put a little interference fit between socket and ball so that you could stick it in without gluing it?

The fifth edition DE release had the most wonderful flying bases. Intuitive. Sturdy. storable.

Then, GW decided you know what, screw that interference fit. Just force our customers to glue the damn things. So every flying base since has still had the ball joint, but you have to glue your models onto it in order to make it work. Because feth you, that's why.

I use a tacky glue dot/strip to help hold it in place without having to permanently gluing it in/making a mess.

the_scotsman wrote:

deotrims 16th wrote:
I got a leman Russ demolisher and used melta's for the first time with it and I have realised that using the demolisher ones you can't move the sponsoons properly as the wires catch but this isn't the case for the normal Leman Russ as the wires finish further forward so GW is just a bit special.

Does anyone own models like this, not like tau ankles for battle suits or inceptor stands but it physically doesn't work

Let me tell you a tale of flying bases.

GW's original design concept for a Flying Base was to take a brittle clear plastic stick, then have it terminate in a nice stress concentrating transition to a much THINNER brittle clear plastic stick, then just slap that on any old model regardless of size or stability. Wave serpents and Tau tanks had approximately 6-12 seconds of standing up before the little flying base snapped and crumbled to dust in its entirety. It was a dark time.

Then, in fifth edition, GW hit on an idea, an idea that had existed for a very very very very very very long time: What if we just made the joint a BALL instead of a PEG, and put a little interference fit between socket and ball so that you could stick it in without gluing it?

The fifth edition DE release had the most wonderful flying bases. Intuitive. Sturdy. storable.

Then, GW decided you know what, screw that interference fit. Just force our customers to glue the damn things. So every flying base since has still had the ball joint, but you have to glue your models onto it in order to make it work. Because feth you, that's why.

Or just use brass rod and not worry about any of that...

 Grimtuff wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

deotrims 16th wrote:
I got a leman Russ demolisher and used melta's for the first time with it and I have realised that using the demolisher ones you can't move the sponsoons properly as the wires catch but this isn't the case for the normal Leman Russ as the wires finish further forward so GW is just a bit special.

Does anyone own models like this, not like tau ankles for battle suits or inceptor stands but it physically doesn't work

Let me tell you a tale of flying bases.

GW's original design concept for a Flying Base was to take a brittle clear plastic stick, then have it terminate in a nice stress concentrating transition to a much THINNER brittle clear plastic stick, then just slap that on any old model regardless of size or stability. Wave serpents and Tau tanks had approximately 6-12 seconds of standing up before the little flying base snapped and crumbled to dust in its entirety. It was a dark time.

Then, in fifth edition, GW hit on an idea, an idea that had existed for a very very very very very very long time: What if we just made the joint a BALL instead of a PEG, and put a little interference fit between socket and ball so that you could stick it in without gluing it?

The fifth edition DE release had the most wonderful flying bases. Intuitive. Sturdy. storable.

Then, GW decided you know what, screw that interference fit. Just force our customers to glue the damn things. So every flying base since has still had the ball joint, but you have to glue your models onto it in order to make it work. Because feth you, that's why.

Or just use brass rod and not worry about any of that...

boy I'm sure glad I bought this super premium model kit for three times the price that doesn't come with a functional clear plastic rod base like my 20$ plane models all seem to...