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Have you ever committed to not getting a particular miniature for 40k even if yiu could use it and if so why?

I will never get a tesseract vault for my necron army. 160$ for a model? Long after hell freezes over!

Since a c'tan mini only comes with the vault I'll stick to a proxie for it.

Well, let's see how long this one stays open...

40K Warlord titan.

Under no circumstances can I justify spending that much money on resin. I am not even all that keen on the model.

Are you asking specifically about stuff we would actually like, but for other reasons are consciously avoiding, or for stuff we won't ever get for any reason at all? Because the list of stuff I won't ever get is huge.

Just to avoid not giving a specific answer, I'm going to say Khorne Lord of Skulls, because it's probably the worst model I've ever seen Games-Workshop produce.

I'm going to answer in the context of "For armies I already collect"

Adeptus Mechanicus
Ironstriders/Dragoons. They are cash expensive but points cheap, look horrendous to build and paint, and you really need about 4 of them to make it worth buying one. I just can't see myself spending £120 on 4 models that I wouldn't enjoy building, even if they would massively improve my army.

Space Marines
Centurions. What is this I dont even

Imperial Guard
Hmmm... much harder to answer... I would have said the super ugly Taurox, but I converted one to have wheels and I'm happy with it now.
Oh yes... Ogryns! Not a fan of those at all. Again, would be mega helpful to my army but you've gotta love the models first, right?

The craptek, sorry, seraptek heavy construct. I was soooo ready to buy it, but once the rules, and points, came out i was soooo disappointed

I will never buy it, unless the rules/points change

A few :

Tyranid Titan - the current and only titan is huge, but I'm really not a fan of its pose. I've also read a lot of reviews on it and its a very poor choice of design for resin when you consider that its holding its whole body on four very long very thin strips of resin. Most that I've seen tend to either spend an age rodding and pinning the legs and/or putting a scenic base under the main chest so that they can hide the fact that they've got a support rod under there.

Tyranid Harridain - I actually like the details over its face and carapace, but its got a very "boxy" design that feels very stiff. For a model at that price I'd like a more dynamic, living pose. The detailing is great, its just the overall pose design.

Infinity miniatures - I actually own some but I've come to the conclusion that I really can't justify nor own any more (and even am considering selling the ones I've got) until I'm VASTLY better at painting than I am now. They are just so thin and small that to paint them to the standard I' be happy with is actually quite a skillful demand.

Tyranid Pyrovore. I just cannot bring myself to, the stigma against them runs deeper than my own damn dna!

Eldar - Non forgeworld avatar. Not a fan of the lipstick effect around his mouth.

Multilators.
No seriously, the model is just ugly.

Tauroxes.

gaunts, the ones holding guns, stupidest design for tyranids holding guns rather than having guns protrude out of their bodies. That is the reason I will never ever collect them.

wulfen, what a slowed pose. FW 30k wolf elites, another blunder by their sculptor team.

The horribly WHFB chaos marauders that were mutated, thank god they were only released for a very short limited time, they looked like some one threw a couple marauder molds with something else and press the print button.

 Big Mac wrote:
gaunts, the ones holding guns, stupidest design for tyranids holding guns rather than having guns protrude out of their bodies. That is the reason I will never ever collect them.

Interesting to note if you look at early Tyranids they were all holding their guns. Over time their guns have more and more become melded and moulded to their bodies to the point where some are not holding a gun, but are a gun.

Warlord Titan in 40k Scale.

I can afford it. I would use it (local group does lots of big Heresy games. Well, I say lots. I mean three or four a year. Which is comparatively lot).

But, it's somewhat beyond my build skills. Plastic? No problem. I'm a demon with Plastic kits. Resin? No. Thank. You. Hate that stuff. Hate it hate it hate it.

Anything Space Marine related. - I strongly dislike them as a faction and I commited myself to never ever play them. Except one Intercessor that came with a White Dwarf or something and I got it for free so it doesn't count. It's just a display model. Made him a Raptor.

Any Imperial Knight - They are ruining the game. Regular knights are kinda acceptable, but the bigger ones should have never existed. Maybe I'll get a regular knight one day, and convert the hell out of it, making it an industrial tree harvestor instead of a silly looking war machine.

Ironstriders/Dragoons, those electrical fanatics who's name I forgot - They are hideous looking models. I'd use a good counts-as or conversion, though.

Taurox, Ratlings, Ogryns, Catachans - same reason as Ironstriders/Dragoons and electrical fanatics.
To be honest, I'm not going to buy any new IG vehicle. I'm reworking my army so it fits my army scheme, so I'm replacing them with converted SdKfzs and PzKpfws

 Silentz wrote:
I'm going to answer in the context of "For armies I already collect"

Adeptus Mechanicus
Ironstriders/Dragoons. They are cash expensive but points cheap, look horrendous to build and paint, and you really need about 4 of them to make it worth buying one. I just can't see myself spending £120 on 4 models that I wouldn't enjoy building, even if they would massively improve my army.

Space Marines
Centurions. What is this I dont even

Imperial Guard
Hmmm... much harder to answer... I would have said the super ugly Taurox, but I converted one to have wheels and I'm happy with it now.
Oh yes... Ogryns! Not a fan of those at all. Again, would be mega helpful to my army but you've gotta love the models first, right?

I'll tell you this as someone who is constantly adding to his goonsquad because they're so much fun in game - dragoons are actually quite enjoyable to build and paint. much, MUCH easier than an onager. Also, if you play other imperial armies, the kit comes with top notch bits if you build it as a Sydonian Dragoon - Lascannons and Autocannons that don't look hideously goofy when fired by imperial guardsmen and allow you to make excellent looking HWTs, hydras, or marine dreadnought arms. When it comes to posing you can easily clip the tubes that lock its legs into one position and repose him, and he's got an open stance so there's no need for subassemblies if that's not your jam.

Love the dragoon. I will most likely end up with a fourth despite 3 being really all I need.

Anything age of sigmar related.

Guardians, those models are very old and very ugly.

The Pyrovore, it's rules are actually quite good but it costs more money than points for failcast.

the_scotsman wrote:

I'll tell you this as someone who is constantly adding to his goonsquad because they're so much fun in game - dragoons are actually quite enjoyable to build and paint. much, MUCH easier than an onager.

Really? I am surprised. They look really fiddly.

Maybe I should get three.

<SIGH> What have you DONE???

Heldrake. Even when it was supposedly the best thing in the Chaos codex I found it too ugly to get one.
GW Obliterators and Mutilators are also very ugly models, but Hitech, Spellcrow and Wargames Exklusive have nice versions so I got these.

 Silentz wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

I'll tell you this as someone who is constantly adding to his goonsquad because they're so much fun in game - dragoons are actually quite enjoyable to build and paint. much, MUCH easier than an onager.

Really? I am surprised. They look really fiddly.

Maybe I should get three.

<SIGH> What have you DONE???

I'd take that with a grain of salt. Out of all the kits I have ever assembled / painted, Dragoons are by far my most hated kit. I hated painting them so much that I gave up on my last one, and it forever shall be a half painted mess.

Don't get me wrong, the model itself looks cool and performs well on the battlefield.

 Ginjitzu wrote:
Are you asking specifically about stuff we would actually like, but for other reasons are consciously avoiding, or for stuff we won't ever get for any reason at all? Because the list of stuff I won't ever get is huge.

Just to avoid not giving a specific answer, I'm going to say Khorne Lord of Skulls, because it's probably the worst model I've ever seen Games-Workshop produce.

Ugliest model?

The Taurox says '...hold my beer'

Anything made of resin by Games Workshop.

I made the mistake of buying some of the Necron characters way back in the day (when they came out). After taking a pretty long break from the hobby, I am trying to build them now and they are awful. Brittle, bent all sorts of ways but the right one, and full of surface issues. I can't believe I spent money on these things.

For Eldar:
Wraithknight - IMHO he doesn't fit other wraith constructs aesthetics at all and is too "chubby" for a proper elvish design, so untill I came up with a concept of how to convert this kit to my liking I won't buy him.
Other than that, modern Vaul's Wrath batteries (old ones are so much better with slight modifications) and current War Walker - Wasp is so much greater looking model than the "stock" one...

For Mechanicus:
Kastelan Robots - I get the fluff concept behind them being so different from the rest of AdMech line, but IMHO those are the most dull and toy looking design choices in the whole 40K range.

Forge World - any Eldar Titan, those are huge plain pieces of resin that begin to look fine when you paint on all those missing details,.. If only Forgeworld would bother to make Craftworld constructs in direction of Boneshees, those would be trully epic.

Horus Heresy Mechanicum, so beautiful, so expensive, I hate resin so much...

The plastic AM are good, no doubt about it, but the Mechanicum are so much better...

I think the only GK models I don't own right now is a land raider, a storm raven and a dreadnought. The way the rules work right now, I know I will never buy a GK land raider.

I never want to work on my Ad Mech Dragoons. They're absolutely horrible to paint.

I'll also throw in another vote for dragoons/balistarii. I wish my opinion mirrored the scotsman on them, but I absolutely hate everything about them right up until they're on the table. They look and play great but you need to get past that they're terrible to buy(expensive), build (fiddly) & paint (I'm painting stuff in sub-assembly and still end up with 15ish parts to paint)

I have 4 of them, realistically I could find use for another 6 but that's just never gonna happen

Imperial Guard Scions.

I do not like the models. At all. I bought some OOP Kasrkin to make a kill team, and am keeping an eye out for more on ebay when they pop up. It would be cool to do a Tempestus Drop Force with all Kasrkin, and someday I may have enough to field one.

Warlord, Centurions, and any of the older phoenix lords.

Phoenix Lords are Ugly as all helk.

Centurions look terrible and are expensive.

Warlord would put me into debt.

 H wrote:
Anything made of resin by Games Workshop.

I made the mistake of buying some of the Necron characters way back in the day (when they came out). After taking a pretty long break from the hobby, I am trying to build them now and they are awful. Brittle, bent all sorts of ways but the right one, and full of surface issues. I can't believe I spent money on these things.

We all know of the Finecast debacle.
Eldar Aspect Warriors are ebay-only for me now, as I have had too many disastrous space marines or Eldar minis. Holes in cloaks, bubbles in prominent places, bending staves and weapons, and on it goes. I will never buy Finecast again.

hobojebus wrote:
Anything age of sigmar related.

Because of models or the system? Because the models are pretty crazy.

 Horst wrote:
Imperial Guard Scions.

I do not like the models. At all. I bought some OOP Kasrkin to make a kill team, and am keeping an eye out for more on ebay when they pop up. It would be cool to do a Tempestus Drop Force with all Kasrkin, and someday I may have enough to field one.

I think the Scions box is the kit where the gap between GW model designers and players is most exposed. They look like there's a wide and varied loadout but in reality there's very little ability to stray from the most basic of loadouts.

Plasma is the worst culprit.

There's ONE plasmagun in the entire box. It's in some weird "underslung" pose held onehanded, unlike any other weapon in the entire game. So they have a free left hand. There is only one left hand in the box that's not holding something... and it's pointing.

So if you use the official plasma guns you've got squads of dudes all pointing at things. Looks ridiculous. You have to chop things off the other 2 usable left arms to give them daggers or something, so they don't look so similar.

Anyway you would never do this, right? Because you can just buy spare plasmaguns! Good luck with that they are like hens teeth. I for you do have plasma from other models you can just swap... OH WAIT all the scion hands in the box are molded to their guns.

You need to either accept they are going to have plasmaguns with a weird on-barrel support handle (from the grenade launcher or flamer) or just be pointing.

Welcome to the Scholarum Tempestus. Here's your timetable for the first day of Scion School.

9am: Assembly
10am: Jumping out of things
11am: Pointing
12pm: Lunch
1pm: Advanced Pointing
2pm: Dying a lot


Basically it's rubbish.

Edit to add that in game they are miles away from the lore as well!

"Tempestus Scions are disciplined, elite special operations soldiers who fight without question or hesitation until their orders are fulfilled. "

As if you would train your best of the best soldiers then send them on "you get to shoot your gun LITERALLY ONCE and then you die" guaranteed suicide missions.