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Title says it all as the armies I've built up till now either don't make use of it any more or they've not got finecast models I've wanted. I'm just curious as to if the bubbles and mould release bits issues have died down some or if its still a lingering problem of very spotty quality control.

I'm well aware of the past issues with the material, but I've noticed a general reduction in complaints, though I don't now if it means the issues are resolved or its just that so few buy what is left in finecast.

Finecast is metal?

 Stormatious wrote:
Finecast is metal?

Finecast is resin
Metal is Metal

 Overread wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Finecast is metal?

Finecast is resin
Metal is Metal

Oh ok thanks. Im reporting you for winking, it seems you are suggesting that im a idiot - Just joking complete 100% sarcasm sorry.

I don't have experience of current models, but just one thing I've noticed: GW don't mention the word "Finecast" in most of the kits in the webstore any more, instead they just refer to it as resin I don't know if this reflects some relatively recent change to the manufacturing process or just dropping the Finecast branding because of all the bad experiences with it.

GW does appear have dropped the Finecast (TM) name a while ago.
They do allude to it still though:
"These models are finely detailed resin cast miniatures"

The most recent such models I bought in the past 2 years have been OK. It seems as though they recalled the original Finecast models and replaced them with a better mix.
I did avoid the stuff for a year or so, and only bought a couple of recent kits (Shining Spears).

I do still loath the original type of Finecast, as the models I got early on bend and warp between uses.

The word finecast is kind of offensive to gw plastic when the quality is just as good these days any way riiight?

It's still pretty poor, IMO. Generally less defects and more casting vents / gates these days.

I've not seen any major issues recently compared to when it was rolled out, but I'd still avoid it whenever possible.

The finecast cheapo resin fro Citadel/GW is still fairly terrible. I picked up a few finecast space marines characters that needed some serious work

If you can - buy metal

GW resin is much better than it used to be, but I would still avoid anything with smooth surfaces, such as Space Marines. They haven't ironed out the problems completely.

Stormatious wrote:Finecast is metal?

Stormatious wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Finecast is metal?

Finecast is resin
Metal is Metal

Oh ok thanks. Im reporting you for winking, it seems you are suggesting that im a idiot - Just joking complete 100% sarcasm sorry.

Stormatious wrote:The word finecast is kind of offensive to gw plastic when the quality is just as good these days any way riiight?

No offence intended, but are you drunk?

I bought some WHFB models recently to flesh out my Advanced Heroquest core set and some of the ones I received were Finecast/resin. They were fine bar a little bit of clean-up. Then again, I bought some Finecast models when they were released and was lucky enough not to have any of the QC issues that others described. You pays yer money, you takes yer choice, as they say.

One thing I have found with Finecast is it does and will bend easily so if you plan to store it in a case with foam, make sure you have appropriate space cut out for it and make sure the foam doesn't press on any part. I had the Eldar Sharpshooter character in Finecast (I forget the name) and took it out of my KR case the other day only to find the gun barrel had bent like a banana where the weight of the foam had been pressing on it in the case.

 Skinnereal wrote:
GW does appear have dropped the Finecast (TM) name a while ago.
They do allude to it still though:
"These models are finely detailed resin cast miniatures".

Casting (i.e., an object formed into a particular shape by pouring a liquid into a mold) is the process used to create metal and resin miniatures. They're just using the proper term for a miniature created in a mold with liquid resin.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
GW does appear have dropped the Finecast (TM) name a while ago.
They do allude to it still though:
"These models are finely detailed resin cast miniatures".

Casting (i.e., an object formed into a particular shape by pouring a liquid into a mold) is the process used to create metal and resin miniatures. They're just using the proper term for a miniature created in a mold with liquid resin.

There are many other words they could have used. Did they have to even need to mention they were cast? "These models are highly detailed resin miniatures", for instance.
I assumed it was intentional.

Finecast is dead.

The plastics though.....

Absolutely amazing.

Finecast is to be avoided when all possible.

Whats the overall toughest, the GW plastic or Finecast>?

 Stormatious wrote:
Whats the overall toughest, the GW plastic or Finecast>?

Plastic. No comparison.

 DV8 wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Whats the overall toughest, the GW plastic or Finecast>?

Plastic. No comparison.

Oh cool. Do you Happen to know is all FW is Resin and all Gw is plastic, im referring to nurgle the great unclean one because im wondering if the GW and FW one is the same material.

Finecast is still not Plastic. That is literally all the info anyone needs to know about "How finecast is these days"

The reason, I suspect there are fewer complaints is two-fold:
1) the majority of players know how inferior Failcast is and just don't bother with it at all.
2) GW knows how inferior Finecrap is and hasn't produced any new models in a while using the stuff.

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I hunt ebay for the metal 08 versions of what became finecast. No comparison. The old metal minis are vastly superior.

Even today all the extra vents destroy detail.

A tip from a caster, resin does not need that many vents. If it does you are doing it wrong... or you resin is garbage.

It has got better, its not called finecast anymore and the make up of the resin has changed slightly as well but there is an awfull lot of it left from the vents left to trim off.

Hit or miss. The lotr range is a lot of finecast and some of the models are ok (i rank 5 out of 10 the highest) and many are downright horrible (all the way down to 1 out of 10) due to boat loads of flash and terribly flimsy and breakable pieces that are super weak.

 Rayvon wrote:
It has got better, its not called finecast anymore and the make up of the resin has changed slightly as well but there is an awfull lot of it left from the vents left to trim off.

It's to do with the way it is cast - it is not cast in the traditional way that resin usually is. A few years ago, GW decided that the volatile metals market was a cost too much to bear so they decided to abandon use of metal entirely, however, rather than junk tens of thousands of pounds worth of spin casting machines, they 'adapted' them to spin cast resin, a fairly innovative new technique I'm led to believe. So they are basically spin casting resin pieces using machinery designed to use molten metal, hence why the GW Finecast stuff has more vents and things than one would normally expect. I don't think they have perfected the process and perhaps they never will; presumably, the 'spin casting resin' is only being used as a stop-gap before they either switch to a different medium (ie plastic) or they cast in traditional resin moulds.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I think they are getting better at it or rather, their QA/QC process is better as the stuff being offered for sale doesn't seem to have as many egregiously bad defects as they did on launch.

 Stormatious wrote:

 DV8 wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Whats the overall toughest, the GW plastic or Finecast>?

Plastic. No comparison.

Oh cool. Do you Happen to know is all FW is Resin and all Gw is plastic, im referring to nurgle the great unclean one because im wondering if the GW and FW one is the same material.

Nearly everything Forgeworld produces is resin, there's one or two bits of plastic and a few hybrid kits (such as the Warpfire Dragon).

That said whilst finecast is a resin it is NOT the resin used by Forgeworld

Finecast was a totally separate resin mix for GW, I believe partly selected because it was considered to be a less dangerous/irritable material when worked with into dust particles. There might also have been cost and mould elements that came into play which made them choose that formula.

Finecast is considerably softer than FW Resin and, it seems still is, plagued by quality control issues way beyond normal even for resin.

A FW resin Greater Deamon is not going to be made of soft finecast, it will be a firmer resin material to work with. Still not as hard as plastic or metal, but firm enough to work with and shouldn't warp with casual use (it should be noted all resins will warp if exposed to considerable heat and pressure)


It sounds like I might hold off on Warplocke Rats and wait until they get updated in plastic or hunt down some of the newer sculpts in metal (before they went finecast)

Just wondering because, when i watch the offcial gw painting vids if its resin they say to give it a wash before hand. But on the nurgle unclean one he never mentioned it at all so im assuuming its not resin.

If its the Unclean one from the Forgeworld Website then it will need a clean - all resin needs a clean - it might be he forgot to mention it.

If its the plastic one from GW then it won't need a clean as its plastic.

Never had any issue with finecast. They are ready generally faster than plastic

 Overread wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 DV8 wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Whats the overall toughest, the GW plastic or Finecast>?

Plastic. No comparison.

Oh cool. Do you Happen to know is all FW is Resin and all Gw is plastic, im referring to nurgle the great unclean one because im wondering if the GW and FW one is the same material.

Nearly everything Forgeworld produces is resin, there's one or two bits of plastic and a few hybrid kits (such as the Warpfire Dragon).

That said whilst finecast is a resin it is NOT the resin used by Forgeworld

Finecast was a totally separate resin mix for GW, I believe partly selected because it was considered to be a less dangerous/irritable material when worked with into dust particles. There might also have been cost and mould elements that came into play which made them choose that formula.

Finecast is considerably softer than FW Resin and, it seems still is, plagued by quality control issues way beyond normal even for resin.

A FW resin Greater Deamon is not going to be made of soft finecast, it will be a firmer resin material to work with. Still not as hard as plastic or metal, but firm enough to work with and shouldn't warp with casual use (it should be noted all resins will warp if exposed to considerable heat and pressure)


It sounds like I might hold off on Warplocke Rats and wait until they get updated in plastic or hunt down some of the newer sculpts in metal (before they went finecast)

I think that the only reason finecast is soft is because the centrifuge casting puts a lot of micro air bubbles in the resin. Forge World has adopted the method and I can't tell the difference at all. The color close to regular FW but every other aspect is identical to finecast(riddled with all the same issues).

I got a bunch of LotR models for chrimbo, no issues withthe resin, ditto the Cawdor heads I got last week.

I never got a bad FC model when it was originally rolled out either.

 notprop wrote:
I got a bunch of LotR models for chrimbo, no issues withthe resin, ditto the Cawdor heads I got last week.

I never got a bad FC model when it was originally rolled out either.

I have had over a hundred different FC packs since they came out and only a handful had to be returned, I never got all the hate personally.