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Made in gb
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper





Hey guys, this is my first time making a competitive ad mech list! I’m leaning towards a Mars build but would consider Stygies (only restriction is I don’t really want to mix Forge dogmas). What do you think of the list? Do I have enough troops, should I drop an Onager (or Castellan, it’s a lot of points in one basket) to get more? Comments will be very welcome!

I’ve been playing with 10 man squads in the few games I’ve had with ad mech but it seems there are advantages to running min units with 2 specials. The plan for the list is quite simple, to have Cawl bufffing the robots, the Enginseer with the Dunecrawlers and the Dominus to support the vanguard in the midfield. The Dragoons are to be distraction units, and the infiltrators can drop in to clear objectives or to tie up dangerous units.


++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [123 PL, 2000pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Mars

+ HQ +

Belisarius Cawl [13 PL, 190pts]

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 92pts]: Eradication Ray, Macrostubber

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Plasma Caliver): 2x Plasma Caliver
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Plasma Caliver): 2x Plasma Caliver
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

+ Elites +

Cybernetica Datasmith [3 PL, 41pts]: Gamma Pistol, Power fist

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 4x Flechette Blaster, 4x Taser Goad

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 4x Flechette Blaster, 4x Taser Goad

+ Fast Attack +

Ironstrider Ballistarii [4 PL, 60pts]
. Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Autocannon

Sydonian Dragoons [3 PL, 68pts]
. Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance

Sydonian Dragoons [3 PL, 68pts]
. Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance

+ Heavy Support +

Kastelan Robots [30 PL, 550pts]
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

++ Total: [123 PL, 15CP, 2000pts] ++

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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/02/09 00:39:45


 
   
Made in gb
Mindless Servitor



UK

Hi

Personally if I was having the TPD midfield I wouldn't take the ER, maybe use the 2pts to swap the pistol and use the Phosphoenix relic to upgrade that weapon. Also swap 1 of the Dunecrawlers from NL to an IA.
Maybe drop 1 Kastelan to bolster up the Vanguard a bit. The problem with 2 of 5 taking special weapons is should the unit take 3 wounds you'll want to keep the AR/PC, this means losing the Alpha, lowering leadership. Therefore you're very likely to lose these guys to morale, you could drop 1 special instead of the Alpha to improve your chances but then you've lost a special anyway. An eight robotman squad with a data-tether is a good balance between protecting the special weapons and having a small squad, I'm not sure if dropping the Kastelan will give you the points to do this on all 4 units though.

If you're going to take StygiesVIII you won't get access to Cawl but your opponent will have -1 to hit over 12". You could mix forge worlds but keep them in seperate detachments otherwise you'll lose the dogmas. Quite often I play a Mars Battalion + Vanguard with a StygiesVIII Spearhead. Don't get as much CP but the Dunecrawlers at the back always have -1 to get hit due to the dogma and quite often get it doubled due to shroudspalm, which is very likely when rolling due to Cawl.

Hope this helps.
   
Made in gb
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper





Thanks for the reply and advice! I see what you mean about 5 strong squads - they won’t last long at all and morale is still an issue for them. I’ve swapped an Onager for an Icarus, and a robot for more vanguard and I think the list is a lot better. I had enough points to bring the plasma squads up to 10, meaning I can get an extra Caliver, but this has meant the arc squads have had to stay minimum size.



++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [123 PL, 1999pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Mars

+ HQ +

Belisarius Cawl [13 PL, 190pts]
. Warlord: Warlord Trait (Mars): Static Psalm-Code

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 92pts]: Phosphor Serpenta, Relic: Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land, Volkite Blaster

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Vanguards [7 PL, 120pts]: Omnispex
. 6x Skitarii Vanguard
. 3x Skitarii Vanguard (Plasma Caliver): 3x Plasma Caliver
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [7 PL, 120pts]: Omnispex
. 6x Skitarii Vanguard
. 3x Skitarii Vanguard (Plasma Caliver): 3x Plasma Caliver
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

+ Elites +

Cybernetica Datasmith [3 PL, 41pts]: Gamma Pistol, Power fist

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 4x Flechette Blaster, 4x Taser Goad

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 4x Flechette Blaster, 4x Taser Goad

+ Fast Attack +

Ironstrider Ballistarii [4 PL, 60pts]
. Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Autocannon

Sydonian Dragoons [3 PL, 68pts]
. Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance

Sydonian Dragoons [3 PL, 68pts]
. Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance

+ Heavy Support +

Kastelan Robots [24 PL, 440pts]
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 112pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array

++ Total: [123 PL, 15CP, 1999pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe
I am also thinking about bringing a tech priest Manipulus with the flamer weapon instead of a Dominus for mid field support. The short range of the flamer may not be an issue if he is pushing up with vanguard, and the Manipulus can make them move faster or increase the range of the radium carbines to 21’, the only thing is for this buff he seems expensive at 90 points. He would be a nice support character for this list if cheaper but I am not sure if he is worth taking over a Dominus.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/02/09 14:08:14


 
   
Made in gb
Mindless Servitor



UK

I would say drop the omnispex on the Vanguard and take the data-tether as morale tests will be costly against a unit of 10. Also it'll give you a 2+ to hit with the Doctrina stratagem and re-rolling 1s if the TPD is with them. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck this way than ignoring cover. As for the Arc Vanguard make sure you don't advance them as only 3 of the 5 will fire.

Giving the TPD Arkhan Land it won't help you if he's running with the Vanguard, it can only repair not revive. Maybe try the Raiment of the Technomartyr for more melee or the one that gives extra overwatch. If you want a melee weapon for him always take the Pater Cog-Tooth over the Red Axe, you can only take of so much armour before hitting an invulnerable.

I don't know about the Manipulus, I've not seen the data-sheet. Could be useful, TPD would probably be better though if he doesn't give re-rolls.
   
Made in gb
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper





My mistake, I see why the Autocadeus would be a waste here! Okay so with a few changes I now have this, I think I’ll give it a few tries and see how it goes. 3 of the 4 vanguard squads now have data tethers, although I have kept the omnispex on the rangers to help with sniping. Thanks again for the advice!


++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [123 PL, 2000pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Mars

+ HQ +

Belisarius Cawl [13 PL, 190pts]
. Warlord: Warlord Trait (Mars): Static Psalm-Code

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 92pts]: Phosphor Serpenta, Relic: Phosphoenix, Volkite Blaster

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 2x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Vanguards [7 PL, 118pts]: Enhanced Data-Tether
. 6x Skitarii Vanguard
. 3x Skitarii Vanguard (Plasma Caliver): 3x Plasma Caliver
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [7 PL, 118pts]: Enhanced Data-Tether
. 6x Skitarii Vanguard
. 3x Skitarii Vanguard (Plasma Caliver): 3x Plasma Caliver
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 53pts]: Enhanced Data-Tether
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts]
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

+ Elites +

Cybernetica Datasmith [3 PL, 41pts]: Gamma Pistol, Power fist

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 4x Flechette Blaster, 4x Taser Goad

Sicarian Infiltrators [6 PL, 90pts]
. Infiltrator Princeps
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad
. 4x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 4x Flechette Blaster, 4x Taser Goad

+ Fast Attack +

Ironstrider Ballistarii [4 PL, 60pts]
. Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Autocannon

Sydonian Dragoons [3 PL, 68pts]
. Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance

Sydonian Dragoons [3 PL, 68pts]
. Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance

+ Heavy Support +

Kastelan Robots [24 PL, 440pts]
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 112pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array

++ Total: [123 PL, 15CP, 2000pts] ++

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