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Hello here.

With my friend we have a probleme

Can I take this move or not (the monster fly)

Thx for your answer


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No, because you can only charge the side of a unit that is within YOUR charge arc at he beginning of the turn. For example, you cannot move past the front facing of a unit, and charge their flank. You would have to charge their front facing.

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 CaptainLoken wrote:
No, because you can only charge the side of a unit that is within YOUR charge arc at he beginning of the turn. For example, you cannot move past the front facing of a unit, and charge their flank. You would have to charge their front facing.


I do not understand what you mean. The target IS within the charger's front arc and the charger is in the flank of the target, so the charge is legit as far as the charger can get there (either fly or nimble is enough in the situation, maybe even without them as it looks the charger needs just one pivot when going around the other unit).

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We are missing one vital piece of information. The line of sight for the target Monster.

You can only charge the side you start in.

By the looks of the diagram the Dragon starts with the majority of it frontage in the front arc of the monster.
   
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 StygianBeach wrote:

By the looks of the diagram the Dragon starts with the majority of it frontage in the front arc of the monster.


Interesting. Are we looking at the same picture. :-) To me it looks (I even checked it once again now) that the whole of the charger frontage is in the side of the charged monster. Of course, I assume that the charger frontage is where the movement arrow/path starts, facing upwards in the picture.
   
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The Problem is that it is not marked were the front arc of the attacker is

If the front is were the text is, than it is not possible as the targets flank is no viable target

if the front is were the arrow is, than it is a legal charge if there is enough space between the charging unit and Inf GT to stay 1" apart and still touch more than the corner of the monster

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Thx for your answers, I made a new version with more details :

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I would say no and consider it a Corner to Corner charge as there is not enough room to stay away from the infantry unit and still be in contact with the monster

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 kodos wrote:

if the front is were the arrow is, than it is a legal charge if there is enough space between the charging unit and Inf GT to stay 1" apart and still touch more than the corner of the monster


You do not have to stay 1" apart when charging ...

The charge is legal, it is not a corner to corner ...
   
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Pg 56 of the hardcover. "Remember that when charging, units don't have to stay away from enemies, and this means that sometimes a charging unit may end up in contact with both its target and one or more enemy units it has not charged (e.g. when charging a unit that is part of a tight enemy battle line). In this case, you'll have to nudge these enemy units away to ensure that they are no longer touching."

It looks like a legal charge.

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In that diagram, at least, the front arc of the monster is entirely within the front arc of the charging unit.

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 JoshInJapan wrote:
In that diagram, at least, the front arc of the monster is entirely within the front arc of the charging unit.


But this is irrelevant to what side of the target can be charged. The charger is in the side of the target unit, so the target is (if possible, which in the discussed situation is true) charged to the side.

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Just tossing in that this is a legal flank charge in my experience, and one I've had done to me on occasion

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Thx a lot for your answer
   
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 Boss Salvage wrote:
Just tossing in that this is a legal flank charge in my experience, and one I've had done to me on occasion


Based on the second diagram I would agree.
   
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Legal charge. You could have turned a bit earlier and gone straight towards the flank of the monster instead of coming in on the rear corner.

   
 
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