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Hello everyone

I'm about to start making scratch-built rhino equivalent out of foam-board, card-board and paper (and house-hold (s)craps).
While I already have a general picture in mind, I can't decide on 2 points :
- should I go true-scale or should i respect, as much as I can, the "standard" GW Rhino? Which leads to a sub-question : is a True-scale rhino as big as a "regular" Land Raider ?
- should I do tracks, wheeled or anti-grav as for the locomotive parts ?
(BTW, I didn't have to chance to put my hands on the new rules yet, but does anti-grav vehicles, like land-speeder, have a minimum speed value ?
I'm fond of anti-grav, but I don't want to "crash" all my transports because of unlucky dices. Or does anti-grav have something to compensate this handicap (like further moves) ?)

What are your thoughts ?

If you're planning to have the widest range of people accept your scratchbuilt model in a game, I'd suggest trying to stay as close as possible to the original. That way you aren't "modeling for advantage."

If you aren't true-scaling everything in your army, I wouldn't bother having one model truescale and the rest not. That would look weird, especially if you're trying to maintain in-game rules. Otherwise, if it looks the size of a land raider it would make sense to in-game treat it as a land raider.

Anti-Grav would likely be the easiest to model, I would think. I don't know if that's an issue for you.

Skimmers dont' have a minimum speed, but "Flyers" do. That said, if you're emulating a Rhino, it's rules would not have the skimmer-type rule.


If you're planning to make your own rules for your vehicle, the only limit is your opponent's acceptance and your imagination.

If you aren't true-scaling everything in your army, I wouldn't bother having one model truescale and the rest not.

I already have a custom drop pod that can really hold 10 Space Marines.
Bikes and land-speeder already seems "on scale" to me, so they are/will be untouched.

How can it be my advantage on the table If my rhino is bigger, it's a bigger target for my opponents
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Anti-Grav would likely be the easiest to model, I would think. I don't know if that's an issue for you.

I agree, it should be easier. Plus, that'd mean I could convert the tracks space to more "cargo" room.

In general for game use, you want to keep scratch builds and counts-as as close to the original size. One of the main uses of rhinos, after they are done dropping off troops, is as a rolling LoS blocker. While yes, a larger rhino is easier to shoot, you could also hide half your army behind it.

I think everything that has anti-grav also has the FLY keyword, which doesn’t have any drawbacks (besides the things that specifically target it, the the rules on some AA weapons).

But if you want a marine grav tank, I’d look at the repulsor, not the rhino. Although in old lore, the custodes had grav rhinos.

Oooww, good point, never thought about LoS.
I'll take that into consideration.

Isn't the repulsor a whole tank, not just a chassis ? (And it seems i can't find it in "Index Imperium 1" rulebook… )
The main reason I gaze upon rhinos if for razorback/predator modulations.
Plus, fluff-wise, my chapter would rather field unconventional/old STC than brand new vehicles.

If you want a rhino chassis then why not paint the vehicle in your colours but have some blood angel bits stuck on then say it was recovered from a battle so you now possess overcharged engines

I'm not quite sure what you mean

Only blood angels get the overcharged engines, it gives the tank speed boost it’s not much but will go further

But it would have to be a captured BA tank so it would have to have the heraldry but in your colours

… I would pass on that unless you're using BA chapter tactics.

Have you decided on a Chapter's tactics for your models? That won't be in the Index, but the codex provides different buffs for different chapters, as do BA, DA, DW and SW.

Hypothetically, GK also kind of have a trait, but I don't think that's your plan. This probably references rules you don't have *immediate* access to but could probably find.

Well, I never played, so I don't know what would be my tabletop tactics
If I refer to my "video games style", I prefer to keep my distance from enemies (sniper/archer)

At this point hobby-wise, I'm at the end of the cleaning/stripping process and the beginning of scratch-building.
I'm just looking for advice and insight (or pros and cons) about modelling my "own" rhinos.

Hovering rhino
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More easy to assemble (to me);
The "track space" can be converted to cargo room so, while I stay in the dimensions of a GW rhino, I'm closer to true-scale;
Can anticipate razorback/predator modulations, depending on my opponent's army race.
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Need bases;
Need transparent holding piece.
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Wheeled rhino
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No bases;
Can anticipate razorback/predator modulations, depending on my adversary.
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Don't know how to model wheels with what I have;
If i go true-scale, maybe nobody would play me;
If i go true-scale, maybe I'll have to use the LR rules hence, the point cost too;
If i go true-scale, maybe I'll have to set my own rules too, for which I'm a total noob.
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Tracked rhino
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No bases;
I have a bunch of stuff to model the tracks;
Can anticipate simple/razorback/predator modulations, depending on my adversary.
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If i go true-scale, maybe nobody would play me;
If i go true-scale, maybe I'll have to use the LR rules hence, the point cost too;
If i go true-scale, maybe I'll have to set my own rules too, for which I'm a total noob.
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Repulsor
??
Seems bigger, so closer to true-scale?
Modulable ?
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Need bases;
Need transparent holding piece;
Can't find the rules;
Too recent and mainstream for my fluff.

There is a flying rhino in the gallery that pops up every now and again, will try to find it

Even if it couldn’t be used, the look on your opponents face would be enough
Courtesy of Captain Magpie

Hahaha, Lone Starr's Eagle 5.

But I'll try to stay more 40k on mine ^^