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Long time 40k player, here, but recently got my hands on some WFB miniatures that date back probably about 15 years, mainly a bunch of chaos marauders and a bunch of dwarves...

Are there rules for these still around in AoS? I know that the dwarves were re-done as Fireslayers and Kaharadrons, but the old dwarves on square bases (I know, I would have to re-base the whole of them, which is not such a big deal...), are there still rules for them to play in the current version of AoS?

Sorry if it's a stupid question, I know nothing of AoS...


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Yes. They are in legacy warscrolls. You'll need the latest general's handbook.

Chaos marauders will be in Slaves to Darkness pdf.
Older dwarves are in duardin. There are quite a bit of legacy dwarves not in fireslayers or kharadron.

If you are after tomb kings or bretonnians, you'd need to go back to generals handbook 2016 for their points. Many consider them not supported and therefore no longer legal to field.

If you're playing tournaments yes you'll need to rebase even though officially the rules do not make you (most tournaments will make you).

Their rules are also very weak compared to the rest of the game.
   
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Ah, right... rules are weak, so people buy the latest shiny toy... Got it... but I guess that legacy army vs legacy army would be kind of OK?

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Yeah if you have that option available to you, that would probably work pretty well.
   
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 ChaosDad wrote:
Ah, right... rules are weak, so people buy the latest shiny toy... Got it... but I guess that legacy army vs legacy army would be kind of OK?


While I can't comment on how good any particular army is, in the case of legacy armies it may for once be a little unfair to say it's a ploy to get people to spend on new shinies.

AoS in its original version was quite the disaster and GW had to scramble to update the game to a (minimum) standard people demanded, that as a 40k player you'll be familiar with. Warlord traits, chapter traits, spell lores and such simply were not in the game the one and only time legacy models got their rules, and unless GW wants to keep specific models around and throws them a bone in the General's Handbook (something that dropped factions like Tomb Kings and Brettonians don't get at all - we're lucky they got points at all in the first General's Handbook half a year after they got discontinued), those factions are simply stuck with usable but old rules while supported factions get redone with the latest design paradigm applied. Which usually means getting more and better rules because that's how the rest of the game has progressed.

While I'm sure GW doesn't mind if this generates additional sales from people picking up newer armies, it's really no malign practice and just a practical consequence of putting design resources towards armies that they intend to keep in Age of Sigmar in the long term.

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