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So this is the list I'd like to try and run for ITC tournaments this year. I would appreciate any constructive criticism, Thank you for the help.

Crimson Fist + Astra Militarum 1993pts 18CP ICT list
Astra Militarum Battalion 5cp, Total= 469
HQs
Company Commander
w/Laspistol
w/frag grenades
w/Chainsword= 30

Commissar Yarrick= 100

Troops
Infantry Squad
w/Lasguns
w/frag grenades
w/Laspistol= 120

Transports
Chimera
w/Multi-laser
w/Heavybolter
w/Lasgun arryas= 219

Astra Militarum Battalion 5cp, Total= 285
HQs
Company Commander
w/Laspistol
w/frag grenades
w/Chainsword= 30

Lord Commissar
w/Bolt pistol
w/Power sword= 35

Troops
Infantry Squad
w/Lasguns
w/frag grenades
w/Laspistol= 120

Heavy Support
Basilisk
w/Earthshaker cannon
w/Heavy bolter= 108

Crimson Fist Battalion 5cp, Total= 1239
HQs
Pedro Kantor
w/Dorn's Arrow
w/Power Fist
w/ frag & krak grenades= 150

Primaris Lt.
w/M.C.A.B.R.
w/frag & krak grenades= 74

Troops
Intercessor Sq-
w/Bolt rifle
w/Bolt postol
w/frag & krak grenades= 85x2=170

Intercessor Sq
w/Stalker bolt rifle
w/Bolt postol
w/frag & krak grenade=85

Elite
Primaris Apothecary
w/Absolvor bolt pistol
w/Reductor pistol
w/frag & krak grenade= 68

Fast Attack
Inceptor Sq
w/Assault bolter= 135x2= 270

Heavy Support
Thunderfire Cannon
w/Tech Gunner
w/Plasma cutter
w/Flamer
w/Servo arm(2), Bolt pistol= 92

Hellblaster Sq
w/Plasma incinerator= 165x2= 330

1CP Culexus Assassin
w/Animus speculum
w/Psyk-out grenades

Spend 1 CP to Make the CF battalion Indomitus Crusaders,
Spend 1 CP to make the Basilisk AM battalion Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company
Spend 1 CP to include a Culexus Assassin
The CF Primaris Lt. will be given the chapter relic Duty's Burden

My plan is for Pedro, the Primaris Lt, the Primaris Apothecary, the Hellblasters, the Thunderfire cannon, the Basilisk Battalion of AM to castle up in the back well the Intercessor and the other AM battalion take objectives and support each other. The Inteptors will likely deep strike where need be or even be used to move into buildings & as for the Culexus I would like to use him to threaten Phsykers where and when possible.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/04/20 13:46:32


 
   
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Los Angeles

One of the new things in ITC is that in running 'soup' one can no longer call it 'Crimson Fists' or Astra Militarum. If you're list is mixed like this, it's "Imperium".

That said, you might want to rewrite the list, showing model numbers in the units.

Is the intercessor squad 3 dudes or 4?

Intercessor Sq
w/Stalker bolt rifle
w/Bolt postol
w/frag & krak grenade=85

Throw in some basic formatting and it'll be easier to critique.

Lastly, I don't see any solid anti-Castellan/Titan fire power. Nothing that looks like it can put out 28 wounds, at T8.

"You can bring any cheesy unit you want. If you lose. Casey taught me that." -Tim S.

"I'm gonna follow Casey; he knows where the beer's at!" -Blackmoor, BAO 2013

Quitting Daemon Princes, Bob and Fred - a 40k webcomic 
   
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 Brothererekose wrote:
One of the new things in ITC is that in running 'soup' one can no longer call it 'Crimson Fists' or Astra Militarum. If you're list is mixed like this, it's "Imperium".

That said, you might want to rewrite the list, showing model numbers in the units.

Is the intercessor squad 3 dudes or 4?

Intercessor Sq
w/Stalker bolt rifle
w/Bolt postol
w/frag & krak grenade=85

Throw in some basic formatting and it'll be easier to critique.

Lastly, I don't see any solid anti-Castellan/Titan fire power. Nothing that looks like it can put out 28 wounds, at T8.


Other than something like another knight what puts out 28 wounds, at T8?
   
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Los Angeles

A couple clarifications:

 Brothererekose wrote:
One of the new things in ITC is that in running 'soup' one can no longer call it 'Crimson Fists' or Astra Militarum. If you're list is mixed like this, it's "Imperium".
This is for scoring points in the overall ITC rankings or if you attend a tourney that gives prizes for best in faction, like the upcoming BayAreaOpen.

dkoz wrote:
 Brothererekose wrote:
Lastly, I don't see any solid anti-Castellan/Titan fire power. Nothing that looks like it can put out 28 wounds, at T8.

Other than something like another knight what puts out 28 wounds, at T8?
No, not another knight. I am not advocating that! My comment is poorly written, sorry.

I meant, I don't think your intercessors' fire power with their guns, the basilisk, etc. I don't know if all of that can destroy something titanic with 24 or 28 wounds at Toughness 8, in one or two turns.

The best guns in the list are in the hellblaster squad, their Plasma Incinerators, right? How many models is that? Ten? 165 points times 2? Is that ten guys, all sporting a plasma incinerator?

I had to look up the entry as it doesn't mention model count. You might rewrite it to look like this: Hellblaster - x10, plasma incineratros x10, 330 points.

Anyway, when looking at what kind of damage output they do, we get the following:

When Super Charging - 10 shots, rolling to hit at BS3 gets us ~6.5, 7 hits with a captain or reroll strat used. Half of those S8 hits wound a T8 Castellan or other Imp Knight, or 4 to 5 with a LT cheering the boys with his reroll wounds bubble. The IK has 4 to 5 saves to make with its 4++. 2 or 3 get through doing 4 to 6 wounds. Out of 24 or 28.

The basilisk might hurt it a wee bit more for 3 wounds. Pedro's fist, plus the Chimera gets some licks in, ThunderFire Cannon, maybe a Heavy Bolter from the Basilisk ... adding on to the above calculated 7 to 9 of its wounds with your strongest guns, which is not good. Maybe cut an IK down' to half its wounds? And the rest of the army is S4 or lasguns.

It is hard as heck to chop down an IK in one turn (even top level GT players need two turns sometimes). Anyway, something to think about.

"You can bring any cheesy unit you want. If you lose. Casey taught me that." -Tim S.

"I'm gonna follow Casey; he knows where the beer's at!" -Blackmoor, BAO 2013

Quitting Daemon Princes, Bob and Fred - a 40k webcomic 
   
 
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