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So, we all know it's Lays-Cannon , but what other words do the rest of you have arguments about and/or are unsure of the correct pronunciation because the English Language is a heretical amalgamation of German, French, Latin and Old Norse.

Sanguinius = San-gwin-E-us.
Abaddon = ah-bad-dan
Roboute Guilliman = Row-boat Gorrila-man
Primarch = Prime-ark

How is Khârn meant to be pronounced? I am unaware of how the diacritic affects the a sound in whatever language it's meant to be based off.

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Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Because some people get their knickers in a twist, I'll list these RaW 'oddities' in my sig. Sadly GW's promise of fixing their broken rules has itself been broken. Zoom in to read them.
RaW you cannot advance and then fire assault weapons, you can't shoot pistols if within 1" of an enemy; "minimum" ranges don't work; the game simply breaks if you ever have more than one wounded model in a unit; the game also breaks if a single rule ever tries to do multiple things simultaneously; Khârn punches himself in the face if he's not near some meatshields; Librarians on Bikes are locked to the Index power list, Howling Banshees can't declare a charge further than 12"; Spore Mines have an infinite range; Shroudpsalm technically doesn't do anything, only enemy models, not friendly models, have permission to move on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad; T'au have access to stackable Ignore Wounds (albeit against Mortal Wounds only); the T'au Early Warning Override Support System only works if a unit is "teleporting to the battlefield", not just arriving mid-battle; you can only ever use the Deathwatch Teleportarium Stratagem "once", and then never again in any battle after you use it; if a model splits fire, each weapon must target a different unit; a Tyrant Guard with Lashwhip can absorb an infinite amount of damage via Shieldwall between the time they die and the time they fight; Codex Leman Russ's can take an infinite amount of Hunter-Killer Missiles, Storm Bolters and Heavy Stubbers; Imothekh's 'Lord of the Storm' ability hits the "target unit" twice; "Airborne" units can't be charged by non-FLY units, but can be Heroically Intervened into, piled into, or consolidated into just fine by non-FLY units; Wave Serpents cannot be legally charged at by any model with a standard base; Slab Shields, along with the 'Take Cover!' stratagem no longer have any effect; and vehicles that are "slain" by a special effect do not trigger the "Explodes" ability; Taking any Forge World Space Marine Named Characters denies the use of a Chapter Tactic.
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Slann-esh? Slah-nesh? Slah-a-nesh?

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We should note the difference between high and low Gothic.

Imperial Guard=Astra Militarum

Tempestus Scions=Stormtroopers


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Baneblade=BAAAANNEBLAADE!

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Aeldari is apparently hard to pronounce for most so I’ll sound it out. Nuh-mber won.
   
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Ae is like the sound in the plural of antenna. Antennae. Which should be pronounced as in "Ai" ("eye") but more often is pronounced as "ee" (because for all the rules English has, it has more exceptions and more people willing to just make their own exceptions).

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I've always pronounced Ale (as in the beverage)-dar (as in dart)-ee (as in the hard e sound).

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Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Because some people get their knickers in a twist, I'll list these RaW 'oddities' in my sig. Sadly GW's promise of fixing their broken rules has itself been broken. Zoom in to read them.
RaW you cannot advance and then fire assault weapons, you can't shoot pistols if within 1" of an enemy; "minimum" ranges don't work; the game simply breaks if you ever have more than one wounded model in a unit; the game also breaks if a single rule ever tries to do multiple things simultaneously; Khârn punches himself in the face if he's not near some meatshields; Librarians on Bikes are locked to the Index power list, Howling Banshees can't declare a charge further than 12"; Spore Mines have an infinite range; Shroudpsalm technically doesn't do anything, only enemy models, not friendly models, have permission to move on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad; T'au have access to stackable Ignore Wounds (albeit against Mortal Wounds only); the T'au Early Warning Override Support System only works if a unit is "teleporting to the battlefield", not just arriving mid-battle; you can only ever use the Deathwatch Teleportarium Stratagem "once", and then never again in any battle after you use it; if a model splits fire, each weapon must target a different unit; a Tyrant Guard with Lashwhip can absorb an infinite amount of damage via Shieldwall between the time they die and the time they fight; Codex Leman Russ's can take an infinite amount of Hunter-Killer Missiles, Storm Bolters and Heavy Stubbers; Imothekh's 'Lord of the Storm' ability hits the "target unit" twice; "Airborne" units can't be charged by non-FLY units, but can be Heroically Intervened into, piled into, or consolidated into just fine by non-FLY units; Wave Serpents cannot be legally charged at by any model with a standard base; Slab Shields, along with the 'Take Cover!' stratagem no longer have any effect; and vehicles that are "slain" by a special effect do not trigger the "Explodes" ability; Taking any Forge World Space Marine Named Characters denies the use of a Chapter Tactic.
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Baal = Bayl
Vindicare = Vindicarey
   
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ryuken87 wrote:
Baal = Bayl
Vindicare = Vindicarey


No to either of those. Baal is pronounced like the sound a sheep makes. Vindicare is literally "Vin-dee-care"



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Vin-de-car-y is the latin pronunciation iirc.

Vindicare (Latin: present active infinitive of Vindico, thus meaning "to avenge/vindicate/punish, to liberate/deliver/spare, or to defend/protect, depending on the context)

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+++++There are currently NINETY TWO (92) documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Because some people get their knickers in a twist, I'll list these RaW 'oddities' in my sig. Sadly GW's promise of fixing their broken rules has itself been broken. Zoom in to read them.
RaW you cannot advance and then fire assault weapons, you can't shoot pistols if within 1" of an enemy; "minimum" ranges don't work; the game simply breaks if you ever have more than one wounded model in a unit; the game also breaks if a single rule ever tries to do multiple things simultaneously; Khârn punches himself in the face if he's not near some meatshields; Librarians on Bikes are locked to the Index power list, Howling Banshees can't declare a charge further than 12"; Spore Mines have an infinite range; Shroudpsalm technically doesn't do anything, only enemy models, not friendly models, have permission to move on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad; T'au have access to stackable Ignore Wounds (albeit against Mortal Wounds only); the T'au Early Warning Override Support System only works if a unit is "teleporting to the battlefield", not just arriving mid-battle; you can only ever use the Deathwatch Teleportarium Stratagem "once", and then never again in any battle after you use it; if a model splits fire, each weapon must target a different unit; a Tyrant Guard with Lashwhip can absorb an infinite amount of damage via Shieldwall between the time they die and the time they fight; Codex Leman Russ's can take an infinite amount of Hunter-Killer Missiles, Storm Bolters and Heavy Stubbers; Imothekh's 'Lord of the Storm' ability hits the "target unit" twice; "Airborne" units can't be charged by non-FLY units, but can be Heroically Intervened into, piled into, or consolidated into just fine by non-FLY units; Wave Serpents cannot be legally charged at by any model with a standard base; Slab Shields, along with the 'Take Cover!' stratagem no longer have any effect; and vehicles that are "slain" by a special effect do not trigger the "Explodes" ability; Taking any Forge World Space Marine Named Characters denies the use of a Chapter Tactic.
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Baal=Ball

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Everything that sounds English, I pronounce it in English.
Everything that has a hint of Latin in it, or has dubious origin, I revert back to the Italian pronunciation.

XD
   
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My favourite is when "Catachan" magically becomes "Catchatan" ...

Also, frequent is "Alaitoc" being pronounced "Aliatoc" when it's clearly not spelled that way.

 
   
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 Grimtuff wrote:
ryuken87 wrote:
Baal = Bayl
Vindicare = Vindicarey


No to either of those. Baal is pronounced like the sound a sheep makes. Vindicare is literally "Vin-dee-care"
You can listen to the pronunciation on various online dictionaries http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/14174
   
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I purposefully always make sure I pronounce my opponents models completely wrong or off key to confuse them and take their mind slightly away from what I’m doing and the strategic point of the game as they go to try and correct me instead, allowing then to make many play mistakes. Ya aeldari are tricky so.. be careful
   
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The bit in Star Trek: Wrath of Khan when Kirk screams his name when Spock dies...the orignal btw.

That is how you pronounce Kharn!

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Nope, it is bail, it is Levant "beɪəl"

Edit: Correct spelling blah blah

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I only know how to say Baal from Stargate SG1

+++++There are currently NINETY TWO (92) documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Because some people get their knickers in a twist, I'll list these RaW 'oddities' in my sig. Sadly GW's promise of fixing their broken rules has itself been broken. Zoom in to read them.
RaW you cannot advance and then fire assault weapons, you can't shoot pistols if within 1" of an enemy; "minimum" ranges don't work; the game simply breaks if you ever have more than one wounded model in a unit; the game also breaks if a single rule ever tries to do multiple things simultaneously; Khârn punches himself in the face if he's not near some meatshields; Librarians on Bikes are locked to the Index power list, Howling Banshees can't declare a charge further than 12"; Spore Mines have an infinite range; Shroudpsalm technically doesn't do anything, only enemy models, not friendly models, have permission to move on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad; T'au have access to stackable Ignore Wounds (albeit against Mortal Wounds only); the T'au Early Warning Override Support System only works if a unit is "teleporting to the battlefield", not just arriving mid-battle; you can only ever use the Deathwatch Teleportarium Stratagem "once", and then never again in any battle after you use it; if a model splits fire, each weapon must target a different unit; a Tyrant Guard with Lashwhip can absorb an infinite amount of damage via Shieldwall between the time they die and the time they fight; Codex Leman Russ's can take an infinite amount of Hunter-Killer Missiles, Storm Bolters and Heavy Stubbers; Imothekh's 'Lord of the Storm' ability hits the "target unit" twice; "Airborne" units can't be charged by non-FLY units, but can be Heroically Intervened into, piled into, or consolidated into just fine by non-FLY units; Wave Serpents cannot be legally charged at by any model with a standard base; Slab Shields, along with the 'Take Cover!' stratagem no longer have any effect; and vehicles that are "slain" by a special effect do not trigger the "Explodes" ability; Taking any Forge World Space Marine Named Characters denies the use of a Chapter Tactic.
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I don’t think their are any “correct” pronunciations. It’s such a mish mash of sci-fi ninesense, pig Latin and film/real life inspiration there is no real rules. Even pure Latin is argued about the correct watpy to sound out. It’s a dead language really. It’s a game so we should all do just our best. Also the game setting is so huge so it wouldn’t be crazy to have wildly different languages and dialects out there. So have fun with it. Two people twenty miles apart can fall out about how to say scone or bath in the UK.
   
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 Amishprn86 wrote:


Nope, it is bail, it is Levant "beɪəl"


That IPA transcription (which is a pronunciation guide, not the “original” spelling) should sound like “bay al” (al as in Al Bundy); two syllables. Wikipedia offers an alternative pronunciation, “baah al”.
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
 Amishprn86 wrote:


Nope, it is bail, it is Levant "beɪəl"


That IPA transcription (which is a pronunciation guide, not the “original” spelling) should sound like “bay al” (al as in Al Bundy); two syllables. Wikipedia offers an alternative pronunciation, “baah al”.

If you say “baah al” fast, Baal=Ball.

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I pronounce it “bahl”.

My “favorite” (as in I hate it) is when two of my aquaintences pronounce Tzeentch as “chech” or “tizz-neech”. Seriously...The only thing both those have are e’s and ch’s.

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
I pronounce it “bahl”.

My “favorite” (as in I hate it) is when two of my aquaintences pronounce Tzeentch as “chech” or “tizz-neech”. Seriously...The only thing both those have are e’s and ch’s.


They could all work. It's been shown that there are multiple pronunciations for the gods' names based on dialect and languange.

I have a question; is gellar pronounced with a soft or hard g?
   
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You can find most of these pronunciations in the Black Library audiobooks. Gellar from Gellar fields is a hard G. Kharn is pronounced exactly how it looks ('Car'-n).

Alaitoc = uh-lie-tock
Tzeentch = zeench
daemon = demon
Aeldari = eldar-ee
Abaddon = abb-uh-dunn
Lascannon = lazz-cannon
Roboute Guilliman = ruh-boot gill-eh-men

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Baal = Ba hl
Tzeentch = Zen tch
Vindicare = Vin de car
Gellar = Gell arh
Aeldari = El dar e

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Even french pronounciation makes somewhat a tiny little bit more sense...

What puzzles me in english is that there seems to be near to no way of guessing how to say what you spell and vice versa.

But I thought that a few names are derived from latin or from biblic names, so it should be possible to find the official
pronounciation of those.

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I use the Ferengi pronunciation for daemon - Day-mon.

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 Maréchal des Logis Walter wrote:

What puzzles me in english is that there seems to be near to no way of guessing how to say what you spell and vice versa.

That is because English is not a language that developed in a structured way. It is a mash-mash of words adopted from all the cultures that have invaded/colonised Britain over the centuries. Words may follow pronunciation rules from their parent language (whatever that was). When the Normans arrrived, they adapted the earlier anglo-saxon language to suit their own spelling rules which led to hw becoming wh and ae becoming ea in a lot of cases since that matched the grammar the Normans used.

Then you get some 40K names that are deliberately changed slightly from their english roots. The Craftworlds Beil Tan and Saim Han and named after the pagan festivals of Beltane and Samhine respectively but are often mispronounced within the setting. This was actually made into an in-Universe joke in at least one piece of fluff with an expert on Eldar trying to correct an Inquisitor's pronunciation only to be warned of the risks of trying to educate his "betters".

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 Karhedron wrote:

Then you get some 40K names that are deliberately changed slightly from their english roots. The Craftworlds Beil Tan and Saim Han and named after the pagan festivals of Beltane and Samhine respectively but are often mispronounced within the setting. This was actually made into an in-Universe joke in at least one piece of fluff with an expert on Eldar trying to correct an Inquisitor's pronunciation only to be warned of the risks of trying to educate his "betters".


That's like one of my favourite bits of 40k fluff, just because of the all too real snark in it.

"Translator's note- Saim Hann is actually pronounced 'Sam Hine'."
"Inquisitor's note- Translators should learn more respect for their masters".

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That translator is wrong anyway. It's pronounced more like 'sauw-in'. 'Sam hine' is some stupid sasanach mispronunciation. ;-)

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