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Made in se
Small Wyrm of Slaanesh




So I've slowly been starting a new Slaanesh army using Sylvaneth models as proxies. So far I've got a Treelord (KoS) and a box of Dryads (Daemonettes) and I was hoping to get some input on whether this looks like a decent build (assuming points stay the same with the updating of models and rules). Any advice on unit changes, tactics and what models Sylvaneth units to proxy with is much appreciated. Onto it then, shall we.


BATTALION DETACHMENT + VANGUARD DETACHMENT

HQ:

Syll'Esske with Delightful Agonies, Symphony of Pain, Bewitching Aura (Warlord) - 210 points
- Probably using the new Arch-Revenant with a Dryad on its back, and somehow integrating the vines from the Treelord set as her whip

Keeper of Secrets with Sinistrous Hand, Forbidden gem, Pavane of Slaanesh, Hysterical Frenzy - 240
- Treelord with sword and claw hand

Masque of Slaanesh - 65
- Branchwraith

Viceleader/Herald on foot (unsure about what psychic power) - 60
- Branchwych/Converted spare dryad

TROOPS:
3x 15 Daemonettes with Instrument of Chaos - 300
- Dryads

ELITES:
3x 1 Fiend of Slaanesh - 126
- Kurnoth Hunters (slightly converted, but they are a bit bigger, have runnig poses to work with and fits better now with the fiends getting 75 mm bases)

TOTAL POINTS: 1001


Will be strategem striking the KoS
Herald power: Should I get one not taken already or double up on e.g. Delightful Agonies in case something happens to Syll'Esske?
Any thoughts, questions, suggestions?

Thanks!



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Made in ca
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Heart of Fadeless Splendour

I'm not sure that sinking nearly half your points into two minis is a good idea. I'd take one or the other at 1k pts and the one I'd keep is Syll'Esske.

Which gives you enough points to take all 50 of the Daemonettes you'll be buying and also leaves you enough points to take 2x6 Seekers with Instruments, or three Hellflayers/four Seeker Chariots.

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The Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 06/05/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
Made in se
Small Wyrm of Slaanesh




Thank forthe feedback Exo! That's some very sound advice and I'll try to make the most of it, but I do feela bit restricted since I'll be using Sylvaneth models. Because the size of the Treelord I have already bought and obviously also want to use means I need a KoS in the list. Or maybe a regular grounded Daemon Prince could work, what do you think about that option? That is, swapping the KoS for a regular grounded daemon prince saving me about 80 points which I could maybe use to bump up the number of daemonettes?

Chariots/Hellflayers/Seekers would be a cool additions, but I'm just not sure how I could proxy them to fit the Sylvaneth theme. If anyone has a suggestion I'd be happy to consider that option.

Thanks again!
   
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Heart of Fadeless Splendour

Right, you're not using Daemon minis. Mea culpa.

In that case, drop Syll'Esske (for now) and take the KoS. I'd advise a counts-as Shalaxi Whateverherface. I see that Dryads come in boxes of 16 so you'll have 48, which is good 'cause multiples of six are important.

You'll have enough points left over then for ten Seekers with an Instrument and I personally wouldn't complain if you used, say, Kurnoth Hunters to represent them

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,828pts painted (updated 15/06/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
The Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 06/05/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
Made in se
Small Wyrm of Slaanesh




Alright thanks, I'll probably playtest it as regular KoS, Shalaxi and DP and find out what works.

Why are multiples of six important, and do you also mean that the daemonette units should go like 12, 18, 24 or 30 then? Sry I'm quite new ^^

Planned to use the Kurnoth Hunters as fiends, so I'll have to think about that part. How important are the seekers woul you say?

I truly appreaciate your suggestions, mate!
   
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Heart of Fadeless Splendour

In regards to six, I'm being facetious. Six is Slaanesh's sacred number and so I, being mostly fluff and little crunch, run everything I can in sixes. Six Heralds, six Chariots, six Fiends, 60 Daemonettes, eighteen Seekers etc. etc.

The only number that makes any difference on the tabletop with Daemonettes is 20, 'cause if you make it into melee with a unit of 20 (or more) of them they get +1A each. And if you keep a Herald nearby those extra 20 attacks swing at S4, which is tasty.

At 1K points you can easily do without Seekers. They're not necessary by any means, it's just nice that they can keep up with Fiends and the KoS. I use them mostly to eat small-arms Overwatch for my Fiends.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,828pts painted (updated 15/06/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
The Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 06/05/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
Made in se
Small Wyrm of Slaanesh




Oh yeah, right, haha. That completely slipped my mind as potentially being an "important" thing - but I agree! ^^

Alright, then I will probably skip seekers for now but keep them in mind for expanding to 1500/2000 points (unless I can find a suitable tree-like proxy, suggestions anyone else?).

Happy to listen if anyone has suggestions about strategies, psychic powers, changes I could make etcetera. Thanks in advance everyone!

   
Made in ca
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Heart of Fadeless Splendour

My strategy is 'run at them, shouting'. Slaanesh Daemons are fast, choppy and fragile. They don't have great, or really any, defensive buffs so the safest place for them is usually melee, where they usually strike first. My aim is always to have my Seekers, Fiends and KoS hit their lines T1, Chariots pile in T2, Daemonettes on T3. Doesn't always work like that, of course, but that's the plan.

Re psychic powers, I regularly have seven Psykers at 2K pts and I just load up on Cacophonic Choir, Symphony of Pain and Hysterical Frenzy. I'll take Phantasmagoria if I have CSM Raptors (Night Lords are best) or Zarakynel for the Ld debuffs. If you do it right and get a little lucky, hitting a unit with Zarakynel or Raptors, then Phantasmagoria, then Cacophonic Choir can be devastating.

I tend to use The Forbidden Gem as a Relic and I take The Murderdance as a WT when a KoS is Warlord, Celerity of Slaanesh when the Warlord is Zarakynel because for some reason She is considerably slower than the new KoS.

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The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,828pts painted (updated 15/06/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
The Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 06/05/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
Made in se
Small Wyrm of Slaanesh




Haha that's fair enough, I can appreciate a straight forward strategy like that. Guess the learning part is primarily to master positioning and the close combat phases.

Btw, if I opt out on Syll'Esske, do you think I should swap the Masque for another Herald to not limit myself to only one model giving off that +1S aura? Or is the Masque's benefits still better?

Thanks for the advice on psychic powers, on paper the Cacophonic choir sounds a bit meh to me, but you like it? I've been thinking that Pavane of Slaanesh was better, and that Delightful agonies otherwise was the go to apart from Symphony of pain ofc.

Absolutely I'm going for the Forbidden gem! Have you found it tricky to pull it off effectively? Any thoughts on also getting the Soulstealer for 1CP to gain my KoS a bit more longevity?

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