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I'm currently messing around with a Freebooterz list, making it to be strong in casual but not tournament competitive necessarily. The list is already not super dependent on massed boyz, instead using grots for troops for the most part and using some kommandos and storm boyz as early hitters to tie down backfield and flank threats. Part of me wants to make a big mob or two of heavily customized shooty nobz with some mix of close combat weaponry. Kombi weapons seem like they could help trigger the kultur benefits(skorchas) or get pretty killy when combined with the bonus to hit (rokkits). Anyone used a lot of nobz with any success?

I dont think massed nobz ist viable. Especially shooty nobz. Every kombi weapon more than doubles the cost of a nob which isnt optimal to say the least.

Nobz kinda work as close Combat blob in a wagon but you definatly want them as cheap as possible which means double choppa and big choppa+choppa. Maybe a klaw but i do not see the value of Kombi weapons.

I mean, what so you seek to achieve? They're slow, quite fragile and cant outshoot anything. The only reason to take them is because they fit nicely into Transports and are able to dish out a scary amount of attacks.


If you really want I guess you could max out on kombi skorchaz, load that mob into a wagon and go ham with it but that'd be expensive as hell.

Funny enough, my best shooting as an Ork was with a group of Nobz. But that was just a fluke. Really, there are plenty of units that are much better at shooting than Ork Nobz. As said earlier your best off making them as choppy as possible.

the only way i'd take a shooty nob is if i was allowed to use 2x Kustom Shootas.
Which even using index, not legal.

All their other guns are way way WAY overpriced.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
the only way i'd take a shooty nob is if i was allowed to use 2x Kustom Shootas.
Which even using index, not legal.

All their other guns are way way WAY overpriced.

Doesn't help that we also didn't get some of the price cuts other armies got with CA2019, including heavy flamers coming down in cost, we still pay 17 for our skorchas. Another problem with shooty nobz is that they compete to some extent with Flash Gitz and Tankbustas, depending on what you gear them out with. Kombi-Skorchas are kind of the only way to go and its way too gimmicky and expensive. I'd rather they make burna boyz worth taking than focus on shooty nobz tbh.

Yeah, I'm gonna hafta say you'd be better off getting Flash Gitz. They're a bit more expensive (unless you get the Kombi-Skorcha, then they're actually cheaper), but you get a +1 BS out of it and much better guns.

Theoretically, a trukk full of kustom shoota nobz ain't bad. They are relatively well priced, can still chop down things and their shooting is in a way comparable to tactical marines whixh ain't half bad for orkz. I think they might be quite decent in small to medium games.

Something like:
Trukk
Around 7 nobz with kustom shootas, ammo runt, a couple big choppas - sub-200 pt unit that's gona be neat to have.

And they're gona be ok with just any clan trait

Largely depends on how much D2 weapons you face. Vs D1 weapons they are actually tougher than boyz and 5 S5 attacks vs 8 S4 attacks(if you have 20+ boyz) isnt' that bad tradeoff for offensive power either depending on target.

But alas d2 weapons will murder them. I do like squad with couple big choppa+choppa and rest double choppas in bonebreaka.

But keep them CHEAP.

The consensus is certainly that they are too spendy, which is probably true. What I've not seen is anyone actually going for it though, which is surprising since nobz are dirt cheap to acquire on the secondary market. Thematically I quite like the idea of the hardest orks around putting on pirate hats and kicking the galaxy's teeth in while bossing around crews of grot gunners. I'm going to give it a go at some point. I think there's maybe more aversion to taking list building risks than is entirely useful, I guess because competitive hammer is king?


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I can certainly see the advantage of taking tankbustas for example over kombi rokkits, their special rules make them crazy good but a glass cannon. I've had mixed luck with lootas, flash gitz have performed well enough that I'm actually taking the plunge on freebooters. The kit also converts well with nobz. Between grot shields and 4+ saves, two wounds and a painboy I am wondering if nobz might start to be decent.

Flash Gitz perform really well. I like to put a small group of 9 (+1 Ammo Runt) and Kaptin Badrukk in a Trukk and send them out to lay waste to stuff. And when the Trukk pops, you can get your Gitz to a +3 Sv. Put them in cover afterwards and now they're basically Meganobz with better guns. Just be sure to pack enough Smashaz for the +1, and you're solid.

Better guns but worthless h2h ability so enemy can tag them in close combat and render those guns useless.

They're still WS3+, S5, A3 (just like Nobz). I wouldn't exactly say they're worthless in H2H.

Nobz are doing 5 S5 attacks for 14 pts. That's lot better though. Or can have big choppas for ASM and D. 3 S5 attacks for nearly 30 pts isn't "yey". I would not count on my luck even vs equal point IG troopers let alone proper h2h unit

Well, yeah. I'm not saying FGs are CC units. Just that they ain't worthless in H2H. They're pretty decent and any opponent who runs in thinking they suck is gonna have a rough time. Assuming they aren't put off by the 15-30 S6, AP-2, D2 shots on OW in the first place.