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I have been trying everything I can to work out a list that has a Abby but also competitive to my liking. I wanted to see if any one had any ideas to build on this. Thanks!


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [69 PL, 1182pts, 7CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Field Commander [-1CP]

Gifts of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

Legion: Black Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Soulforged Pack

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 240pts, 2CP]: Warlord

Lord Discordant on Helstalker [9 PL, 160pts]: Autocannon, Intoxicating Elixir, Mark of Slaanesh, Master of the Soulforges, Warlord
. Helstalker: Techno-virus injector

Lord Discordant on Helstalker [9 PL, 160pts]: Autocannon, Mark of Khorne, Talisman of Burning Blood
. Helstalker: Techno-virus injector

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 65pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 75pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 65pts]: 4x Marine w/ Boltgun, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 287pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Combi-plasma, Power axe
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainfist, Reaper autocannon

+ Heavy Support +

Venomcrawler [7 PL, 130pts]: No Chaos Mark

++ Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Renegade Knights) [43 PL, 809pts, 3CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [3CP]

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 172pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 172pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Knight [25 PL, 465pts]: Character, Heavy stubber
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer

++ Total: [112 PL, 10CP, 1991pts] ++

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Abaddon is better paired with blobs of cultist instead of marines since he makes cultists fearless.

I don't think terminators are that good man, they will just die really fast, they're not great in combat, and they get no benefit from bolter discipline if your using the plasma variant of the combi-plasma. If you use both parts your terminators blow up on 1's and 2's. You already have the ranged threat of the knights, so maybe replace the terminators with some possessed or berserkers and a rhino, it will just give some combat threat to the list.

I would use cultists over chaos space Marines if you are just running them for cheap troops as they will provide more board control and are a slightly cheaper option.

Overall, I don't think you can rub Abby and knights effectively in the same list, as Abby either has to provide buffs to a good proportion of your army, or he needs to be buffed off his face to be effective as a beatstick-mainly using 2 chaos sorcerers.
He just doesn't get enough value in this list.I've had the same problem trying to run him alongside a castellan, which meant I had 0 board control.

The Lord discordants aren't getting much value in this list with 0 daemon engines to buff,as knights aren't daemon engines-we can always hope with the new chaos knights codes though.

I like the idea of this list, but honestly, nothings going to get value except from your knights, so I don't think this is going to work.