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https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2019/07/gw-pricing-increase-coming-next-week.html

Anyone see anything major? Is it just me or did several things go down? Feels like Scions, DW Killteam went down? They are raising vehicle costs.

Anyone want to hazard a guess? Of the Brexit variety?
   
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 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2019/07/gw-pricing-increase-coming-next-week.html

Anyone see anything major? Is it just me or did several things go down? Feels like Scions, DW Killteam went down? They are raising vehicle costs.

Anyone want to hazard a guess? Of the Brexit variety?


It looks a lot like they're hiking older kits that have held their same price for a while now. If i had to hazard a guess, I'd say they need to pay for more warehouse space, as their breakneck release schedule means they have so many more kits than a few years ago and they're not discontinuing tons of kits. This is probably why stuff like Looncurse or Shadow Spear were such limited releases, clogging up warehouse space. It's easier for the customer to swallow price hikes on older stuff they could have gotten in the last 4-5 years than to hike the price of newer kits so closely after their release.


   
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The Militarum Tempestus 5 man squad appears to be the same. Valks went up to 75, though. Unfortunate.

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Bleh, their new kits/sets have been increasing in price by leaps and bounds, guess they need to do the older stuff or it will be seen as too attractive - especially anything marine that isn’t primaris.

Getting to be a good time to leave the hobby before pricing and bloat Kill it.

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Bleh I even put in the most recent survey that prices were getting out of hand. Sounds like a good time to work on my backlog
   
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Seems like they are going to reap in all they can before dropping all old kits to squeeze the max out of those mold.. Seems reasonable form a business perspective.

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At this point high quality miniature companies that provide alternatives become increqsingly happy i belive.

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I never thought politics would directly affect my hobby, but I totally expected this after Trumps trade war tariffs with China.

I'm not blaming GW for these price changes. It's total political BS.

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GW makes more than enough off their kits. They might use politics as an excuse, but they're raking it in even with old kits. There's no political motivation behind this.
   
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 Galef wrote:
I never thought politics would directly affect my hobby, but I totally expected this after Trumps trade war tariffs with China.

I'm not blaming GW for these price changes. It's total political BS.

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funny thing is I was kind of hoping Brexit would lead to GW price drops. I mean.. woulda been nice

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 Elbows wrote:
GW makes more than enough off their kits. They might use politics as an excuse, but they're raking it in even with old kits. There's no political motivation behind this.


I think this is the case, considering the bonuses GW employees raked in a little while back. They are doing quite well with their current prices, they are just doing this cause they can, and we expected them to. And i'm not really seeing some kind of catastrophic social media backlash about it, people are still gonna keep buying this stuff.

 
   
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Sadly those fantastic eBay sales seem to be a thing of the past. That was the only way I could justify the few boxed sets I bought over the last couple of years.

You're still guaranteed 15% and free shipping...but the additional 15% was the kicker.
   
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GW still manufactures their models in the UK; so it might be Brexit, but it's not the Trump/China Trade War.

 Galef wrote:
I never thought politics would directly affect my hobby, but I totally expected this after Trumps trade war tariffs with China.

I'm not blaming GW for these price changes. It's total political BS.

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Is this affecting UK products? USD to GBP is awful at the minute and things currently costing £70 in the UK if using exchange rates are going to 110! I can justify current prices, just about, but wow you guys have it bad.

Like people have said- rising material prices, warehouse restrictions etc.

Hopefully this doesn't affect us inside the UK, I mean all the Brexit **** is taking its toll already- this is most likely a result of that for all you US lot.

Brexit negotiations mean that sylvaneth are still stuck in a container somewhere as well. What an awful mess we have made.

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...damn. Prices out in Japan are already pretty extreme anyway, hope we aren't hit too hard - the start collecting boxes are around double the price they were at release in the UK. It's enough to make me consider buying them in the UK, and then shipping them out to Japan from there. Might have to go back to being a gunpla-er instead...
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
 Galef wrote:
I never thought politics would directly affect my hobby, but I totally expected this after Trumps trade war tariffs with China.

I'm not blaming GW for these price changes. It's total political BS.

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funny thing is I was kind of hoping Brexit would lead to GW price drops. I mean.. woulda been nice


Massive political instability economic uncertainty and xenophobic protectionism will surely lead to lower prices.

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I think people are trying to dig around for reasons GW had no choice but to raise prices.

Truth is, all of these boogeymen were around and GW has been on an upward swing the whole time. This is simply GW showing there ain't nothing new here at all.

Remember when they said they were done with the price hikes ? I do, at least not on old kits, doing it with updated stuff.

This new GW horsecrap was never real, it was the same old GW just with a fancy new green suit, made of money and the wrecked wallets of the older fans. The only thing good about this is I have most all of these old kits I'll want aside from maybe some more Ogryns at some point.

Welcome back old GW, i knew you were just waiting to say hello once more.

I guess we need to get ready for when your standard small transports - like the dunerider - are going to be costing upwards of 100$ Glad we gave them all that feedback that these high costs were bad, I see they took it straight to heart.
   
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GW's pricing strategy is very simple: They will charge what people will pay.

They're one of the only gaming/hobby companies who is successful enough to actually carry it out though.
   
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 Elbows wrote:
GW's pricing strategy is very simple: They will charge what people will pay.

They're one of the only gaming/hobby companies who is successful enough to actually carry it out though.


True, but they just ensured I will never buy Mortarion or the lord of change. It's funny how much abuse GWs consumer base is willing to take, and continue plodding on anyway. Makes me wonder what exactly is the breaking point.

 
   
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Oh I agree...I haven't bought a new GW product in a long while, a few combo-boxes with eBay sales in the past two years or so. I think they're going in the FW direction, hoping for the handful of well off people who just throw money at GW , and no longer interested in someone dropping $30 every other week, etc.
   
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I enjoyed supporting my local GW store until now because they're all good friends of mine there, and its community is great, but the price of the Dunerider (the transport AdMech has been waiting for since basically 7th Edition) at 60€ reallt shocked me and I've started considering alternatives for big models like that. Now that this price hike affects even AdMech boxes, which were already WAY TOO EXPENSIVE I'm comforted in my choice. I'll buy AdMech from another site and my modelism items from GW, as well as my Nighthaunts because their prices are "reasonable".

Same as others, I talked about their prices being nonsensical when you compared a Kabalite box with 5 Electro-Priests in the Big Survey, and instead of lowering the prices they're just making them ALL expensive.

This is not okay, they've been making a great profit this year, this is how they thank their customers.

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GW continues to be greedy. Glad I'm done buying GW products but I feel terrible for people trying to get into the hobby and don't want to feel like they are being gorged right out the gate. Also terrible for the kids who have some pocket money and want to pick up a kit to build, paint, and eventually play during the week but now they gotta dig deeper in the laundry or skip more school lunches to save up Warhammer money.

These price hikes are nothing though to the innevitable squatting of old marines and seeing people left holding thousands of dollars of marines which would be made officially useless. Maybe then they might see that new GW is the same company that looked down upon the unwashed peasents as nothing more than walking wallets that paint..... Or the consumers just keep throwing more money at Primaris Marines and continue to reward greed.

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 Aaranis wrote:
I enjoyed supporting my local GW store until now because they're all good friends of mine there, and its community is great, but the price of the Dunerider (the transport AdMech has been waiting for since basically 7th Edition) at 60€ reallt shocked me and I've started considering alternatives for big models like that. Now that this price hike affects even AdMech boxes, which were already WAY TOO EXPENSIVE I'm comforted in my choice. I'll buy AdMech from another site and my modelism items from GW, as well as my Nighthaunts because their prices are "reasonable".

Same as others, I talked about their prices being nonsensical when you compared a Kabalite box with 5 Electro-Priests in the Big Survey, and instead of lowering the prices they're just making them ALL expensive.

This is not okay, they've been making a great profit this year, this is how they thank their customers.


I support the local store because they have gaming tables, and that costs a lot more than paint pot or two per visit people think it does. I think it was Bell of Lost Souls that did the math for people to learn how much said table costs GW and FLGS operators.

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the_scotsman wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Galef wrote:
I never thought politics would directly affect my hobby, but I totally expected this after Trumps trade war tariffs with China.

I'm not blaming GW for these price changes. It's total political BS.

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funny thing is I was kind of hoping Brexit would lead to GW price drops. I mean.. woulda been nice


xenophobic protectionism will surely lead to lower prices.


Can't believe someone actually think protectionism is "xenophobic" and is actually doing politics in this thread. Good job

   
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I like the idea of buy where you play, but sadly my closest lgs is a GW. And the thing is since the store opened there has been a big uptick of new hobbyists and surge of popularity in miniatures games in the area. The store has been great for community building. Thing is as far as i;m concerned buying from there is becoming harder to do.

Then again the only GW game I planned on carrying on with in the future is Blood Bowl. And it looks like BB is being hit with the price increase as well, but not sure by how much.

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An already expensive hobby gets even more so.
And to those who defend the pricing as GW just trying to make money must surely think, when's enough enough.
I've purchase a lot in the last year or so, Start collecting boxes and some of the other boxed sets have been relatively good value. But it's getting harder for me to accept the prices, particularly when my hobby budget doesn't increase at anything like the rate GW's prices do.

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As someone living in Vietnam on a Vietnamese salary, it's already very difficult to justify the cost of the hobby. To be fair, Games-Workshop do seem to heavily discount the boxes they send to my FLGS (the sole purveyor of their products in Hanoi) in order to overcome the heavy import duties and still leave room for the retailer to make a profit, but from the consumer's perspective, this only brings the cost back down to international level, while the average Vietnamese income is definitely not at a level equitable to other countries. What I'm getting at is that it won't take much to squash the budding hobby here. The irony is that just last weekend, the Vietnamese signed a free trade agreement with the EU that will eventually eliminate almost all duties and tariffs, at a time when the UK is just about to leave and thus negate any benefit. My hope is that Brexit will finally force Games-Workshop to reconsider their UK centered production, and open up a permanent facility in China, even if it's only for the Asian market.
   
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Ugh, after paints and SC! boxes, now normal kits, too? Some were already too expensive, others were 'cheap', but now get brought into line with the new price range, which is a shame, because a lot of it are big units (Plaguebearers, Gors)
Others are a real headscratcher. Who in their right mind would think Khorne Berserkers or Zombies, 20 year old fugly kits, deserve a price hike.

   
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 Huron black heart wrote:
An already expensive hobby gets even more so.
And to those who defend the pricing as GW just trying to make money must surely think, when's enough enough.
I've purchase a lot in the last year or so, Start collecting boxes and some of the other boxed sets have been relatively good value. But it's getting harder for me to accept the prices, particularly when my hobby budget doesn't increase at anything like the rate GW's prices do.


There's a guy at work who just got a cost of living adjustment raise. Can you believe he's charging his employer more money for the same work he did before? It's almost like I... I mean HE thinks prices go up over time and wages go up over time causing prices to rise.. in some sort of cycle where costs inflate. Some sort of... oh what's a good word.. inflationary cycle? I joke, but it's pretty basic. Prices go up, wages go up, wages go up, McDonalds installs Self Service Kiosks. They're not charging you for the table, they have to make that money back somehow.

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