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2019/07/05 23:22:29
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Okay, traitor Commissar and Ogryn bodyguard?
Awesome. Wicked looking models, and IF they have the same faction keywords as the other traitor guard units in the original box, that's a big hit.
BUT...
They also included the ship card for a Drukari character that doesn't exist. Very confusing move: if they do eventually release the character, are they going to include the ship card in that set too?
As cool as the Traitor Guard baddies are, I would have rather had the full release of the Drukari explorer kit for a few reasons; first and foremost, Dark Eldar players have lost so many cool characters that they really need this; the last Blackstone release was a baddy kit- we need an explorer kit for variety, and finally, the traitor guard, though a cool looking collection of minis don't really have what it takes to be a full army even with this release.
You know, being Drukari, they could have included the model in the kit with rules to use him as both a bad guy and an explorer.
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2019/07/05 23:27:21
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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The Traitor Guard are building up to be a full army and I honestly expect a release of them very soon. With all the hints GW has dropped after the FW line went away? Yeah there's no way that they don't capitalize on it. Still, I do agree it'd be nice for a full release for the Dark Eldar explorer.
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2019/07/06 00:18:13
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Blackstones release schedeule just seems to be a mess.
The first expansion came out relatively quickly after they announced it and then they dropped the info on the second one. They then sat on it for months before finally putting it out and we have no word on when we are getting the third one which is "hopefully" going to be an explorer.
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2019/07/06 03:11:37
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I waited a really long time to buy in- budget is kinda tight. I'm kinda glad I did wait because I've got a lot of catching up to do.
I don't have the Ambull yet. I'd like to do a 40k mission where a small crack team of wyches escort a beast master into the lair of the ambull to capture it and take it back to the fighting pits and arenas.
After that, any time I defeated someone, I'd have to invite them to form a kill team from the slaves we capture and fight for their lives against our pet ambull. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh! And yeah, traitor guard are definitely coming as an army- they are the exact, perfect opponent for the sisters release. We've long been hypothesizing the possible of a rerelease of the box game with sisters vs some unknown force... Traitor guard fit nicely.
Others are hoping for Emperor's children, which would be cool, but it isn't as good a fit as traitor guard, given the whole hereticus connection.
If not a rerelease of the box game, then a box along the lines of Tooth and Claw.
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2019/07/06 07:46:04
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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A boxed set of Sisters vs Nids or GSC would be nice. I read one of the Black Library books about that one.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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2019/07/06 08:19:59
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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of the major bad guys, 'nids are notable for not having been featured in a box. sisters vs
nids wou;dn't be a bad choice, although I'm not sure it's the most thematic. course the most thematic would be for GW to drop a suprise on us all and give us a sisters vs Lost and the Damned box
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2019/07/06 08:39:51
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
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2019/07/06 08:47:50
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
This to the max. Soon, hopefully.
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"For the dark gods!" - A traitor guardsmen, probably before being killed. |
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2019/07/06 08:53:01
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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HoundsofDemos wrote:Blackstones release schedeule just seems to be a mess.
The first expansion came out relatively quickly after they announced it and then they dropped the info on the second one. They then sat on it for months before finally putting it out and we have no word on when we are getting the third one which is "hopefully" going to be an explorer.
We've already been shown the 3rd one, it has the techpriest/servitor, psyker, crusader and peg leg lady plus 8 new renegade guard in. Think it was previewed last month.
Edit: here it is, named escalation
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/31/revealed-at-the-uk-games-expo-2019gw-homepage-post-1/
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2019/07/06 09:20:01
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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The good. Traitor guardsmen and R&H 2.0 basically confirmed. The bad. Jesus chriest do i look like i gak gold? have you seen the prices?!? The ugly: Why are there drukari parts in the traitor command box without the drukari in it? Seems bad. Also for that price that dude surely could've been in there. Automatically Appended Next Post: We've already been shown the 3rd one, it has the techpriest/servitor, psyker, crusader and peg leg lady plus 8 new renegade guard in. Think it was previewed last month. Cultists are not traitor guardsmen. Both are integral parts of the lost and the damned /R&H but still different units. Ones cannonfodder, the other is line infantry. (and also cannonfodder for the CSM but they are just medium level gakked on not like the cultists which get gakked on by everyone. AAAA the Smell of the Chaos Gak pyramid.)
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/07/06 09:22:12
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/07/06 09:54:51
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dudeface wrote:HoundsofDemos wrote:Blackstones release schedeule just seems to be a mess.
The first expansion came out relatively quickly after they announced it and then they dropped the info on the second one. They then sat on it for months before finally putting it out and we have no word on when we are getting the third one which is "hopefully" going to be an explorer.
We've already been shown the 3rd one, it has the techpriest/servitor, psyker, crusader and peg leg lady plus 8 new renegade guard in. Think it was previewed last month.
Edit: here it is, named escalation
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/31/revealed-at-the-uk-games-expo-2019gw-homepage-post-1/
I don`t think those are traitor guardsmen - they look more like chaos cultists (different datasheets)
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2019/07/06 09:59:03
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
USA
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Phobosftw wrote:Dudeface wrote:HoundsofDemos wrote:Blackstones release schedeule just seems to be a mess.
The first expansion came out relatively quickly after they announced it and then they dropped the info on the second one. They then sat on it for months before finally putting it out and we have no word on when we are getting the third one which is "hopefully" going to be an explorer.
We've already been shown the 3rd one, it has the techpriest/servitor, psyker, crusader and peg leg lady plus 8 new renegade guard in. Think it was previewed last month.
Edit: here it is, named escalation
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/31/revealed-at-the-uk-games-expo-2019gw-homepage-post-1/
I don`t think those are traitor guardsmen - they look more like chaos cultists (different datasheets)
They are cultists. No flak armour and autoguns, but both are good signs for a Lost and the Damned release.
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"For the dark gods!" - A traitor guardsmen, probably before being killed. |
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2019/07/06 13:59:21
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Sir Heckington wrote: Phobosftw wrote:Dudeface wrote:HoundsofDemos wrote:Blackstones release schedeule just seems to be a mess.
The first expansion came out relatively quickly after they announced it and then they dropped the info on the second one. They then sat on it for months before finally putting it out and we have no word on when we are getting the third one which is "hopefully" going to be an explorer.
We've already been shown the 3rd one, it has the techpriest/servitor, psyker, crusader and peg leg lady plus 8 new renegade guard in. Think it was previewed last month.
Edit: here it is, named escalation
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/31/revealed-at-the-uk-games-expo-2019gw-homepage-post-1/
I don`t think those are traitor guardsmen - they look more like chaos cultists (different datasheets)
They are cultists. No flak armour and autoguns, but both are good signs for a Lost and the Damned release.
Yeah lazy edit, I wrote it from memory before finding the link which says they're cultists.
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2019/07/06 15:16:06
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
The Blackstone traitor guardsmen share a sprue with the spindle drones and ur-ghuls, so there is basically no chance of them getting a separate release unfortunately.
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2019/07/06 16:16:39
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lord Damocles wrote: Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
The Blackstone traitor guardsmen share a sprue with the spindle drones and ur-ghuls, so there is basically no chance of them getting a separate release unfortunately.
Those exact poses? Probably not.
A kit or kits with the same aesthetic as part of a faction release? Possibly.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2019/07/06 20:44:46
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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While GW doesn't seem to have bothered doing it (and it's a little silly how they do it anyway), they have the 3D models and could simply re-sprue them. That would mean multiple molds for the same figures though, which is unlikely.
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2019/07/07 09:39:38
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Dysartes wrote: Lord Damocles wrote: Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
The Blackstone traitor guardsmen share a sprue with the spindle drones and ur-ghuls, so there is basically no chance of them getting a separate release unfortunately.
Those exact poses? Probably not.
A kit or kits with the same aesthetic as part of a faction release? Possibly.
And you wouldn't want those poses anyway. Since they offer no form of weapon customization.
Take those sprues with the ur-ghuls and beastmen. Remove the ur-ghuls and beastman, add the proper weapon loadout options. Done.
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2019/07/07 15:30:51
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BrianDavion wrote:of the major bad guys, 'nids are notable for not having been featured in a box.
What is Space Hulk, Shield of Baal, Overkill, Tooth and Claw?
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2019/07/07 15:41:55
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Irbis wrote:BrianDavion wrote:of the major bad guys, 'nids are notable for not having been featured in a box.
What is Space Hulk, Shield of Baal, Overkill, Tooth and Claw?
And Lost Patrol.
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2019/07/08 11:03:43
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Executing Exarch
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Having ships from other races are to incentivise picking up the expansion for the potential of having a new Explorer later down the line. Clever tactics but I haven't even cracked the cards on my copy of the base game yet or the Ambull expac so I'll give this one a pass for now.
As I'm collecting BSF, I may as well buy into R&H when they do come out with plastics separately.
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2019/07/08 11:50:07
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Irked Necron Immortal
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PenitentJake wrote:
They also included the ship card for a Drukari character that doesn't exist. Very confusing move: if they do eventually release the character, are they going to include the ship card in that set too?
DE are never getting new characters. Ever.
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2019/07/08 16:02:05
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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TheFleshIsWeak wrote:PenitentJake wrote:
They also included the ship card for a Drukari character that doesn't exist. Very confusing move: if they do eventually release the character, are they going to include the ship card in that set too?
DE are never getting new characters. Ever.
No just even less options for them
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/07/12 19:26:18
Subject: Re:Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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There is no limit on how many traitor commissars or chaos ogryns we can take in 40k all Hail traitorous 20
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2019/07/15 12:20:49
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's weird that you can have more traitor commissars in an army than traitor guardsmen.
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2019/07/15 14:11:59
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Lord Damocles wrote:It's weird that you can have more traitor commissars in an army than traitor guardsmen.
It just means they're doing their job right and making sure no one runs away.
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2019/07/15 14:20:59
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This commissar thing reminds me of the old Deathwatch RPG requisition section. Your squad could requisition a commissar cohort to assist local guard. Funnily enough it never defined how many commissars were in said cohort. Naturally we jokingly assumed that meant it MUST mean a traditional first Roman cohort thus meaning 800 commissars. And if you spammed this requisition you could be deploying several thousand commissars to the battlefield. You could make entire regiments of just commissars.
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2019/07/15 14:32:04
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Tibs Ironblood wrote:This commissar thing reminds me of the old Deathwatch RPG requisition section. Your squad could requisition a commissar cohort to assist local guard. Funnily enough it never defined how many commissars were in said cohort. Naturally we jokingly assumed that meant it MUST mean a traditional first Roman cohort thus meaning 800 commissars. And if you spammed this requisition you could be deploying several thousand commissars to the battlefield. You could make entire regiments of just commissars.
Now THAT is a scary thought. If one commissar can help keep a regiment in line, an entire regiment of commissars would be absolutely terrifying.
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2019/07/15 14:44:08
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Lord Damocles wrote: Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
The Blackstone traitor guardsmen share a sprue with the spindle drones and ur-ghuls, so there is basically no chance of them getting a separate release unfortunately.
Something I've been thinking they might do is actually release a "Blackstone Fortress Expanded Foes" box.
Just the sprues with the enemies and rules for bigger 'mobs' of enemies to deal with.
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2019/07/15 21:34:23
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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Kanluwen wrote: Lord Damocles wrote: Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
The Blackstone traitor guardsmen share a sprue with the spindle drones and ur-ghuls, so there is basically no chance of them getting a separate release unfortunately.
Something I've been thinking they might do is actually release a "Blackstone Fortress Expanded Foes" box.
Just the sprues with the enemies and rules for bigger 'mobs' of enemies to deal with.
Just get another box lol
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2019/07/15 21:42:29
Subject: Blackstone Expansion- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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ulfhednir86 wrote: Kanluwen wrote: Lord Damocles wrote: Darnok wrote:I just hope all the Traitor Guard stuff from BSF (including these) gets released seperatel later on. I have no interest in the boxed game or its expansions.
The Blackstone traitor guardsmen share a sprue with the spindle drones and ur-ghuls, so there is basically no chance of them getting a separate release unfortunately.
Something I've been thinking they might do is actually release a "Blackstone Fortress Expanded Foes" box.
Just the sprues with the enemies and rules for bigger 'mobs' of enemies to deal with.
Just get another box lol
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Well it wouldn't be unlikely for gw.
Which is bad for us.
Don't give them any ideas!
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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