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2019/07/12 10:16:03
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Norn Queen
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This came up in another thread where a poster said they were effectively price immune to GWs price rises.
This can be for several reasons:
Too rich too care
Not that rich but Gws increases arent significant enough to you
Have very large collections already so only ever need 1-2 units to complete armies / update armies
Dont buy from GW (ebay, 3rd party, swaps etc)
I find myself falling into #2/3 - GW do and have increased prices but they dont wreck my monthly bank balance so I collect away. I also have fairly large collections so if they raise prices on kit ABCD, I probably only need A.
What about yee?
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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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2019/07/12 10:26:49
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Yes and no. 40k is the only game in town, so no choice but to buy unless I want to play with myself. But gws price hikes are ridiculous and we keep letting them get away with it.
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2019/07/12 10:28:09
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Executing Exarch
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Firmly in category 3 and 4. I only collect Eldar so buying new units is a rarity as I have most anyway and if I do go looking for more Eldar I head for eBay.
Blackstone Fortress is the only stuff I'm actively collecting so I would say I'm a little bit in cat 2 because of how infrequent they release content for it.
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2019/07/12 10:36:26
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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All four, to be honest.
Though I would describe #1 as being less "too rich to care" but more that miniature wargaming has always been pricey, and I've always sort of understood and accepted this. I earn enough to be able to afford the hobby, and I don't ever spend out of my means, but I cut back a little in other areas - I used to refresh my mobile phone every 2 years, for example, while I'm going on 4 with my current one at this point.
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2019/07/12 10:40:56
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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Only new stuff I buy are the WU Warbands. Those are a reasonable price for a GW product. Aside from those last 40k thing I bought was a second Betrayal at Calth box set and that was roughly a year ago. I was tempted to buy some more Cataphratii Terminators... but at €52 for 5, I think I'll pass.
I am at the point where I am waiting to see how Apocalypse does before I think of adding more to my collection, if I do add more it will be through eBay. A sonic cleaner and Methylated Spirits will happily strip even the worst paint job found on eBay.
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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2019/07/12 10:42:35
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Somewhat 2 and 3. I have good enough of a job that this doesn't ruin my plans excessively. However, I will buy more strategically and only buy what little I need. Maybe it's the ADHD in me but I have a tendency to start an army on a dime. This price rice has however curbed that. Was thinking of starting Gutbusters but now I'll sit pretty and just wait and only commit a lot of money when Sisters come out.
I also tend to buy second hand stuff when I can as I have a soft nostalgia for the old stuff.
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2019/07/12 11:10:55
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I've got a combination of a large collection, and a fourth option - I don't buy much faster than I can assemble and paint, so money isn't the reason I'm not buying faster.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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2019/07/12 11:17:11
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Yeah, I've got probably over 10,000 points of stuff painted at this point, and for a while I've just been doing paint commissions to pay for any hobby purchases I make. So it's just kind of a blip for me.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2019/07/12 11:21:28
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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All four. In the fortunate position to be able to buy whatever they offer, therefore increases are not a factor, but my collections are large enough that I don’t _ have _ to add to them, and they are mostly RT models anyway so if I do add it’s via second hand.
My spending in GW stores is minimal - just the monthly purchase to justify using their table.
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2019/07/12 11:35:26
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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also kind of al lof it. I have so many armies and only need a kit every now and again. I have been buying 1 box a month for over a decade. back when i started playing kits were cheaper but much more expensive as I was not making nearly as much as I am now.
I have been 3d printing a lot of terrain and counts as but still do about a box a month and could do more but I already have a back catalog of things to paint pretty big.
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2019/07/12 11:44:06
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Kind of all?
So long as I enjoy the hobby, I'll continue to cough up.
It's been 30 years, so I think that's me in for life now
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2019/07/12 11:45:55
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Ratius wrote:This came up in another thread where a poster said they were effectively price immune to GWs price rises.
This can be for several reasons:
Too rich too care
Not that rich but Gws increases arent significant enough to you
Have very large collections already so only ever need 1-2 units to complete armies / update armies
Dont buy from GW (ebay, 3rd party, swaps etc)
I find myself falling into #2/3 - GW do and have increased prices but they dont wreck my monthly bank balance so I collect away. I also have fairly large collections so if they raise prices on kit ABCD, I probably only need A.
What about yee?
None of the above, I think. There should be a 5th option:
Is willing to save up for a little longer to get what I want.
Aside from this 5th option, I suppose I'm a combination of 2 and 3 - the increases aren't big enough that I couldn't save for them, and I've already got large armies that require a few units to bring to what I'd call "complete".
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2019/07/12 11:59:35
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
Sesto San Giovanni, Italy
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Yes I am.
#3 and #4.
More from necessity than choice, but once you picked up a good habit, you won't let it go.
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I can't condone a place where abusers and abused are threated the same: it's destined to doom, so there is no reason to participate in it. |
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2019/07/12 13:03:00
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Despite being able to afford to buy GW retail (not rich, but I make a good living), I buy almost everything used and second hand. At times, I've even bought full collections and resold big chunks while keeping what I want. It takes some hustle (and I was living in a good area for used GW), but I've been able to build a stack of shame for pennies on the dollar.
Sgt_Smudge wrote: None of the above, I think. There should be a 5th option:
Is willing to save up for a little longer to get what I want.
To me that sounds like you are affected by the price. I think if you're delaying purchases, you aren't really price immune.
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2019/07/12 13:33:51
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Not price immune. I definitely would have bought that recent Comissar, and a few of the Genestealer Cult bikers if not for the prices.
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2019/07/12 13:36:58
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Price immune here, money has never been a issue nor will it be for my part.
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2019/07/12 13:56:15
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Douglas Bader
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Too rich to care. Wargaming is a cheap hobby, $5 differences aren't worth my time to consider.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2019/07/12 14:02:15
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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#2,3 & 4 for me.
For a good while I didn’t have the money for GW, but life has been rather good to me. I bargain hunt where and when I can, but in the end I can drop a plump sum on GW for some models. I just don’t like to because that money tend to go so much further with other pursuits.
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2019/07/12 14:17:57
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Wicked Warp Spider
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I would not call myself „too rich to care” but considering that all of my other hobbies/passions are so much more costly, GW prices were never an issue for me. And when going for „hours of fun per buck” metric this is literally one of the cheapest hobbies in my life.
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2019/07/12 14:19:18
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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It's completely irrelevant.
For a lot of older players, myself included, we get to a point in life where we go through a reorganization of priorities; and things like hobby costs are more closely evaluated, largely irrespective of financial well-being.
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2019/07/12 14:19:29
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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To me it's more psychological than an actual economic barrier. Sure I could afford to start that astra militarum army I sometimes want, but then again going into perry and pendraken miniatures and new rule systems, the cost is comparably tiny. The money is there, but why spend lots on 40k when I see similar but cheaper products elsewhere...?
I still happily play my existing 40k collections though. Black templars and orks forever!
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2019/07/12 14:22:59
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Not price immune, will probably switch beyond some very specific kits.
Meaning that i will probably not order some thing's i'd have.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/07/12 14:28:07
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't have as much time as I used to, and try to put more effort into my painting.
Lately, I've been painting ~1 mini/week. I could paint just clampack characters and it still wouldn't impact my finances (I don't buy minis I'm not going to paint).
But I still wouldn't buy anything GW puts out. I'm not buying the new BSF expansion mostly because of the price. I just can't see how that's worth what they're asking for. If this was the only kit in town, or everything else was at that price point, I would buy it, since I can afford it. But as it stands, it's not priced properly relatively to the market.
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2019/07/12 15:21:46
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Dakka Veteran
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Price immune but I hate feeling like I'm being taken advantage of.
I also have a rather large collection but I just can't help myself from buying the new "hotness" (relative term for marines) but that will stop now as the whole vote with your wallet thing speaks to me.
I'll stick strictly to ebay/buddies/used models if GW comes out with that new SM codex and there's some must have OP nonsense that I don't already have in triplicate but I'll probably stop chasing the meta for a while now.
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2019/07/12 15:39:28
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Nope. I'm a poor and being alive in a capitalist system is, per se, expensive without considering frivolities like trying to better my situation or that of others, let alone luxuries like plastic crack.
A $10 increase makes a radical difference to my purchasing plans.
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2019/07/12 16:01:24
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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I'm effectively price immune to GW's increases. I've got enough disposable income that an extra $50-$60 a month won't stop me.
I'm unlikely to buy an entire army at once anymore, having sunk a ton of money into it to get started, so it's generally just a model or two per month at this point.
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2019/07/12 16:17:51
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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My GW budget is relatively fixed for each year, so it won't make me spend less, just buy fewer things.
Though as I'm very slow to assemble and paint, and I never buy anything new till I've finished painting everything I already have, the price increases will likely not affect me much either way.
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2019/07/12 17:09:02
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Actually, yes.
A price rise by a few Euros is not a problem and it shouldn't be by a 40k addicted gamer.
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2019/07/12 17:24:54
Subject: Re:Are you price immune to GW?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I'm not, but oddly I'm in a better place now to buy hobby products than before - and I'm no longer buying GW products. I have the money but I don't believe GW's products are worth the money they ask for them.
If the game was better I'd still be interested but always finding alternate ways to get models without paying the extremely questionable GW MSRP. As it stands the game simply isn't making me want to go out and find a way around it.
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2019/07/12 17:25:00
Subject: Are you price immune to GW?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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This is like that old "gas prices" joke. Everyone complains about the price going up, but you can still just spend $5 at the pump, so no big deal, right?
I mean, you get less gas, but you don't HAVE to spend more, so why complain?
But on a serious note, This is kinda how I feel about it. I've already slowed down my purchases for other reasons, so I'm virtually immune to a price increase from that perspective.
I'll still buy the odd WD or new kit, but overall, there are 3 reasons why the increase doesn't really "affect" me:
1) I don't make larger purchases any more. As above, I've already got a fairly full collection
2) The few purchases I don't make were never on kits more than $50 anyway and
3) I can count on 1, maybe both hands the purchases I EVER made directly from GW. I buy from my LGS which sells as a discount, or scout out eBay deals (which admittedly may be affected by this increase).
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