What's up with models of dragons?

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**Rob Lee**

So, for a while now I've had this urge to obtain either a) a Games Workshops plastic Bloodthirster (last time I looked I could get one off evilbay for about £50 to £60) or b) a dragon of similar price, size, stature and presence, as my one big model (and likely last model) purchase of the year.

To that end I've been looking for a dragon that looks along the lines of the Game of Thrones and Skyrim dragons (yes I'm aware they're actually wyverns!).

Problem is, I can't find one.

All the models of dragons I've come across (including several Reaper one's) have wings and 4 legs, so proper dragon, not a wyvern. Plus even the largest one I've seen (one by Reaper with some name I can't recall) doesn't seem from the photos of it to be really all that big and imposing like a Games Workshop Bloodthirster is. The actual wyvern models out there that I've seen are equally as woeful.

Is there a model of a dragon as such I seek out there?

Thanks in advance.

**ingtaer**

Only one I can think of (well unless you like Mantic's) is from Mierce;
https://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_bry_gwy_mbs_601_000

Edit; Google hunting shows up a couple more that might suit;
https://www.atlantisminiatures.com/collections/orcs/products/wyvern-orc-war-boss
http://www.andreaeurope.com/en/1/andrea-miniatures/123/warlord-saga/2088/ws-34-winged-war-dragon.html#!prettyPhoto

**Rob Lee**

Thanks, that Andrea miniatures one looks great, very much spot on for what I'm looking for.

But it's slightly more than 2x my budget.

I did read on a Reaper forum thread (I think), via google, that there are Italian made dragons out there that cost quite a bit, but I never found out who the poster was speaking of, I guess that must be one of them.

**Argive**

I think integer has hit the main ones I was going to say Mierce also. Theres a fair amount of awesome 4 legged proper dragons. But wyvern types seem to be a bit limited. Creature caster comes to mind.

Alternatively to go outside the box and into realms of conversions you might look at GWs LOTR Fell Beast
I think if you could give it a different head it could make a great dragon.

If you got some £350 burning a hole in your pocket could go for smaug

I hope ASOIF will do the dragon models. They will have my hard earned cash if they ever do!

**BobtheInquisitor**

Pegasus Hobbies makes a Vermithrax Pejorative (Dragonslayer) model. It's not too pricey.
https://www.amazon.com/Pegasus-Hobbies-Dragonslayer-Vermithrax-Dragon/dp/B007J3B6D6

The Dragon King from Kingdom Death is also very imposing, if you can buy him still"

**Chute82**

Other world miniature maybe has what you need

http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/wilderness-encounters-2/we35-wyvern/

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

the dragon from the Joan of Arc KS from Mythic Games that's just fulfilled is designed for a smaller scale game but it's plenty big enough to be impressive at 28-32mm too

**Stevefamine**

Andrea miniatures!!!!

**Smokestack**

Reaper Bones 4 kickstarter has a large wyvern. Blacksting. Its not commercially available yet, but you can probably find one on EBAY.

**Grey Templar**

Well, GW does have Smaug himself.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Smaug

Expensive as all frak, so probably not within your budget, but it is a gorgeous model.

Dimensions are 8.4"(21.4cm) tall, 9.2"(23.1cm) long, and 5.4"(13.3cm) wide. Its a huge model.

**stroller**

Orc warboss on wyvern?

**Mattlov**

I was going to recommend the Mythic Joan of Arc one. I saw it previewed at GenCon last year, and it made me stop at their booth just to ask.

**Nibbler**

What about him?
https://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/legion-of-everblight/gargantuans/archangel

**Llamahead**

MythicJoan of Arc would be my thought as well and when it goes to retail it'll probably be in price range.

**Dynas**

Well if you want the BIGGEST dragon (true dragon 4 legs) not a Wyvern then its Cang the Implacable.

Bad boy is about 2 feet tall.

**Carlovonsexron**

The joan of arc guys are doing another lick starter this fall (featuring the teutonic knights vs. Lithuanians) but maybe they will offer the dragon again?

**Boss Salvage**

Carlovonsexron wrote:
The joan of arc guys are doing another lick starter this fall (featuring the teutonic knights vs. Lithuanians) but maybe they will offer the dragon again?

A) That's really nice, I think the best wyvern I've seen (that isn't GW's Smaug, which grudgingly is quite nice, if preposterously priced).
B) Wow, it was only $65 during the KS??

Spoiler:

**Ashitaka**

Boss Salvage wrote:
That's really nice, I think the best wyvern I've seen (that isn't GW's Smaug, which grudgingly is quite nice, if preposterously priced).
B) Wow, it was only $65 during the KS??

Yes, only $65 and it's gorgeous.

**Carlovonsexron**

Yeah, I didn't get the dragon the first time around, but I might if they offer it again...

**Argive**

Dynas wrote:
Well if you want the BIGGEST dragon (true dragon 4 legs) not a Wyvern then its Cang the Implacable.

Bad boy is about 2 feet tall.

Wow that's stunning!!! It seems to have been a very limited edition.

Man, I remember GW used to do all sorts of dragons :(

**Carlovonsexron**

The new Joan of Arc kickstarter is in its last day (ive or take) so if anyone is interested in that dragon, I'd go for it now.

If they hit a million USD by the end of the campaign its been teased the a wyvern will join the line up as well...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162110258/time-of-legends-joan-of-arc-15/description

**odinsgrandson**

Rob Lee wrote:
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To that end I've been looking for a dragon that looks along the lines of the Game of Thrones and Skyrim dragons (yes I'm aware they're actually wyverns!).

If you do not accept Gary Gygax as the ultimate arbiter of mythological etymology, then they're very much Dragons. Also, if you don't listen to Gygax, Shakespeare wasn't wrong when he conflated demon and goblin.

Fafnir- the dragon of mythology that is the basis for Smaug (who in turn is the iconic basis for Skyrim and Game of Thrones dragons) is generally considered a "Lindworm" type of Dragon that has wings but two legs.

He is not considered a Wyvern by any scholars of mythology because the story of Fafnir predates traditions of Wyverns by a few hundred years. However, Wyverns were considered types of dragons (as were Drakes, Amphitheres, and a number of others).

The reason why Game of Thrones, Skyrim and The Hobbit films used these shapes for their dragons is because it is more biologically plausible, and thereby more gritty and realistic (since reptiles, birds and mammals can't have six limbs).

The way that geeks get pedantic over the precise definitions of dragons is not congruent with the mythology. In the middle ages, Terrasque was considered a "dragon" and looked like this:

It is worth noting that the same sort of thing has happened to the various words for "Sword." Older books had lots of names for swords (claymor, falchion, scimitar, bastard sword, etc). The source literature used these to mean any type of sword, but we have adopted very specific meanings for them.

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If it is just the wings attached to the hands, the very best dragon mini I know of is the Kingdom Death Dragon King:

On the other hand, this one is a statue that I found at a local Asian Gift store. I'm not sure who made it, but it painted up pretty well: