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2019/08/10 19:31:52
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
Burning with the Gods in Valhalla
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He committed "suicide".
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2019/08/10 19:41:06
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yep, defo "suicide"
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2019/08/10 19:44:38
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
Burning with the Gods in Valhalla
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"Assisted Suicide". I know a lot of Brits use this forum just curious what you guys think about Andrew getting named.
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2019/08/10 20:00:01
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Wait, wasn't there that child Sex scandal in the upper echelon connected to him?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/08/10 20:16:26
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Douglas Bader
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Good to see him burning in hell and the world is a better place without him. Unfortunate that he died before he got a chance to testify and send more people to join him in prison.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2019/08/10 20:27:13
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Phew, talk about sending the entire internet screaming into the conspiracy singularity.
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2019/08/10 20:29:45
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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You mean his asosiates or old friends decided to take him out before he could rat anyone out perhaps.
Or his less savory contracts whom might have very good reasons to not want to be revealed and not lacking in willingness to use illegal means.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Peregrine wrote:Good to see him burning in hell and the world is a better place without him. Unfortunate that he died before he got a chance to testify and send more people to join him in prison.
Very likely linked.
Even if we exclude elites and evil deep state shadow forces, there's still potential illegal contacts who have good reason to clean house before there's is found.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/08/10 20:32:36
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2019/08/10 20:37:43
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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jhe90 wrote:You mean his asosiates or old friends decided to take him out before he could rat anyone out perhaps.
Or his less savory contracts whom might have very good reasons to not want to be revealed and not lacking in willingness to use illegal means.
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Peregrine wrote:Good to see him burning in hell and the world is a better place without him. Unfortunate that he died before he got a chance to testify and send more people to join him in prison.
Very likely linked.
Even if we exclude elites and evil deep state shadow forces, there's still potential illegal contacts who have good reason to clean house before there's is found.
Ayy, why should the poloticians be fearfull.
They got the money and connections.
It is more likely that if he got offed that the criminal side pulled the strings.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/08/10 20:43:44
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Not Online!!! wrote: jhe90 wrote:You mean his asosiates or old friends decided to take him out before he could rat anyone out perhaps.
Or his less savory contracts whom might have very good reasons to not want to be revealed and not lacking in willingness to use illegal means.
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Peregrine wrote:Good to see him burning in hell and the world is a better place without him. Unfortunate that he died before he got a chance to testify and send more people to join him in prison.
Very likely linked.
Even if we exclude elites and evil deep state shadow forces, there's still potential illegal contacts who have good reason to clean house before there's is found.
Ayy, why should the poloticians be fearfull.
They got the money and connections.
It is more likely that if he got offed that the criminal side pulled the strings.
Yeah, that's definitely more likely. Dealing with criminals is a double edged sword.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2019/08/10 20:51:13
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well now he's dead in totally not suspicious circumstances, there's certainly no need to do any more investigating of anybody he might have had links to.
Another case tied up with a nice neat bow.
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2019/08/10 20:56:28
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Eastern Fringe
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TheOpposition wrote:"Assisted Suicide". I know a lot of Brits use this forum just curious what you guys think about Andrew getting named.
Members of the inbred royal family being involved in paedophile sex rings run by dark money is about as surprising as water being wet.
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The first rule of unarmed combat is: don’t be unarmed. |
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2019/08/10 21:02:37
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
Burning with the Gods in Valhalla
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Members of the inbred royal family being involved in paedophile sex rings run by dark money is about as surprising as water being wet.
So why do so many British seem to love and speak only fondly of the Royal Family, is it just when their in American and don't want to air dirty laundry?
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2019/08/10 21:08:05
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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TheOpposition wrote:Members of the inbred royal family being involved in paedophile sex rings run by dark money is about as surprising as water being wet.
So why do so many British seem to love and speak only fondly of the Royal Family, is it just when their in American and don't want to air dirty laundry?
Tradition, kings are as Epitome to the political identity to them as emperors are anathema to us swiss.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/08/10 21:13:09
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Eastern Fringe
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TheOpposition wrote:Members of the inbred royal family being involved in paedophile sex rings run by dark money is about as surprising as water being wet.
So why do so many British seem to love and speak only fondly of the Royal Family, is it just when their in American and don't want to air dirty laundry?
Goodwill for the Royals is mainly generated by the Queen because she has been a steady presence for so long. Hopefully when she dies, more people will wake up to the idea that Royalty is fethed and should be abandoned.
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The first rule of unarmed combat is: don’t be unarmed. |
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2019/08/10 21:36:04
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
Burning with the Gods in Valhalla
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Goodwill for the Royals is mainly generated by the Queen because she has been a steady presence for so long. Hopefully when she dies, more people will wake up to the idea that Royalty is fethed
and should be abandoned.
Yea their are also Russians who think that "Stalin was a strong leader" who "led the country to victories against the Nazis". WWII is over.
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Tradition, kings are as Epitome to the political identity to them as emperors are anathema to us swiss.
You Swiss have a great setup. Your one of the few republics still left in this age of tyranny.
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2019/08/10 21:48:02
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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Not Online!!! wrote:TheOpposition wrote:Members of the inbred royal family being involved in paedophile sex rings run by dark money is about as surprising as water being wet.
So why do so many British seem to love and speak only fondly of the Royal Family, is it just when their in American and don't want to air dirty laundry?
Tradition, kings are as Epitome to the political identity to them as emperors are anathema to us swiss.
For the vast majority, this is nonsense.
Public opinion for the queen is largely positive, because most folks think a constitutional head of state is better than a political one and she's kept completely out of politics her entire life, but public opinion of the rest of the family predominantly ranges from indifference to scathing outside of the real hard core loyalists who are a dwindling number. The royal list was massively slashed and estates began to pay taxes in recent memory specifically as a result of plummeting public opinion.
Even where support for the royal family, more realistically simply for the monarch, is strong, it's generally connected to other nostalgic enthusiasm for tradition or to duty. I've never heard anyone justify hereditary power as the 'epitome' of anything. Of anything good, anyway. I guess there might be aomeone out there who simply thinks monarchs are brilliant as an idea, but I've never encountered one.
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2019/08/10 21:58:19
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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No surprise. He knew way too much about a great variety of powerful people.
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2019/08/10 22:06:02
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Douglas Bader
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Ouze wrote:No surprise. He knew way too much about a great variety of powerful people.
On the other hand, he was also guilty of raping children and organizing the rape of children by other people. Even ignoring his connections with important people there are plenty of people who would have gladly killed him or looked the other way while his guilty conscience did the work. He would hardly be the first child rapist to meet a 100% justified end in prison.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2019/08/10 22:06:46
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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nfe wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:TheOpposition wrote:Members of the inbred royal family being involved in paedophile sex rings run by dark money is about as surprising as water being wet.
So why do so many British seem to love and speak only fondly of the Royal Family, is it just when their in American and don't want to air dirty laundry?
Tradition, kings are as Epitome to the political identity to them as emperors are anathema to us swiss.
For the vast majority, this is nonsense.
Public opinion for the queen is largely positive, because most folks think a constitutional head of state is better than a political one and she's kept completely out of politics her entire life, but public opinion of the rest of the family predominantly ranges from indifference to scathing outside of the real hard core loyalists who are a dwindling number. The royal list was massively slashed and estates began to pay taxes in recent memory specifically as a result of plummeting public opinion.
Even where support for the royal family, more realistically simply for the monarch, is strong, it's generally connected to other nostalgic enthusiasm for tradition or to duty. I've never heard anyone justify hereditary power as the 'epitome' of anything. Of anything good, anyway. I guess there might be aomeone out there who simply thinks monarchs are brilliant as an idea, but I've never encountered one.
What you described is exactly what i meant, it is part of the political identity and Epitome in the way of it supposedly beeing better then a voted in politician.
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2019/08/10 22:31:08
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I can't say I'm surprised.
He attempted to kill himself just a week ago. I see no need to jump into conspiracy theories without solid reason to. Guy is hardly the first rich asshat to off himself rather than face the fall.
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2019/08/10 22:35:02
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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and now reports of a 'camera malfunction'...
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2019/08/10 22:50:28
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Unsubstantiated as far as I can tell.
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DQ:90S++G++M----B--I+Pw40k07+D+++A+++/areWD-R+DM+
bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
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2019/08/10 23:02:57
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
Burning with the Gods in Valhalla
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I was kinda crazy as a teen and as a young adult. Its a miracle I don't have a record and am still alive for that matter. I know a lot of people who have been to jail. Far from what most people will tell you about shanks and shower rape (that's in prison not country jail) jails are the kind of places where even joking about hurting yourself or someone else will get you locked up in solitary and under constant watch and this is for DUI offenders and bar fighters. Imagine the kind of surveillance that this kind of high profile figure would get. He didn't die by accident, the question is if this was direct murder or purposeful neglect.
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2019/08/10 23:05:14
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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How is this not a political topic?
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I prefer to buy from miniature manufacturers that *don't* support the overthrow of democracy. |
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2019/08/10 23:07:51
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
Burning with the Gods in Valhalla
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How is this not a political topic?
Because Epstein is not a politician.
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2019/08/10 23:21:03
Subject: Re:Epstein is dead.
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Kind of naive.
Either way, Epstein lost his political worth earlier this week when mountains of evidence, depositions, and records were ordered released by the Second Circuit. Some people got cleared of anything worse than hanging out with a sleazeball, which isn't really a crime (including the two big names who probably meant the most in current politics whose last names begin with T and C). Some big names did get mentioned (former Senator George Mitchell stands out), but most of the politicians who are getting their names thrown out are no longer active in politics and haven't been since the mid-2000s. The article I read didn't specify, but I got the impression most of these files were from before the 2007 case against Epstein. I doubt anything that happened after will actually be of much political worth (it's what happened then that is).
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2019/08/10 23:40:02
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Peregrine wrote: Ouze wrote:No surprise. He knew way too much about a great variety of powerful people.
On the other hand, he was also guilty of raping children and organizing the rape of children by other people. Even ignoring his connections with important people there are plenty of people who would have gladly killed him or looked the other way while his guilty conscience did the work. He would hardly be the first child rapist to meet a 100% justified end in prison.
It's a case of too many with means and motive rather than too few.
As far as politics and the hammer comming down, give it a few for the stupid to reach critical mass.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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2019/08/11 00:27:31
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LordofHats wrote:I can't say I'm surprised.
He attempted to kill himself just a week ago. I see no need to jump into conspiracy theories without solid reason to. Guy is hardly the first rich asshat to off himself rather than face the fall.
Being murdered before you can inform on people is hardly wild as far as conspiracies go. Not a single mole man involved (for better and for worse). Additionally, the whole point of being put on suicide watch is that uh it isn't possible to commit suicide. This is either a case of an absolute fluke of cosmic incompetence from the guards or the dude was murked so he wouldn't talk about his wealthy customers.
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2019/08/11 00:44:05
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Douglas Bader
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Rosebuddy wrote: LordofHats wrote:I can't say I'm surprised.
He attempted to kill himself just a week ago. I see no need to jump into conspiracy theories without solid reason to. Guy is hardly the first rich asshat to off himself rather than face the fall.
Being murdered before you can inform on people is hardly wild as far as conspiracies go. Not a single mole man involved (for better and for worse). Additionally, the whole point of being put on suicide watch is that uh it isn't possible to commit suicide. This is either a case of an absolute fluke of cosmic incompetence from the guards or the dude was murked so he wouldn't talk about his wealthy customers.
Or option 3: he raped children and deserved to be killed, and someone did it.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2019/08/11 00:54:22
Subject: Epstein is dead.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Peregrine wrote:Rosebuddy wrote: LordofHats wrote:I can't say I'm surprised.
He attempted to kill himself just a week ago. I see no need to jump into conspiracy theories without solid reason to. Guy is hardly the first rich asshat to off himself rather than face the fall.
Being murdered before you can inform on people is hardly wild as far as conspiracies go. Not a single mole man involved (for better and for worse). Additionally, the whole point of being put on suicide watch is that uh it isn't possible to commit suicide. This is either a case of an absolute fluke of cosmic incompetence from the guards or the dude was murked so he wouldn't talk about his wealthy customers.
Or option 3: he raped children and deserved to be killed, and someone did it.
Which is either incompetence on behalf of the guards or deeply suspicious. Why would he share cells with someone likely to kill him? Why would that person have the means to do so? Why wouldn't the guards keep a tight watch?
And anyway, we have trials for a reason. Go think about that .
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