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Actually building this one so need some critique / advice

I can proxy most things with similar models (eg redemptor dread without outer carapace becomes a normal dread)


BATALLION

Chapter Tactics: Imperial Fists

2 Relics

Beta Rules

HQ

Captain in Terminator Armour (WARLORD)
Power Sword
Storm Shield
Relic: The Shield Eternal
WARLORD TRAIT : Iron Resolve
109

Chaplain in Terminator Armour
Storm Bolter
Crozius Arcanum
92

Librarian
Relic: Armour Indomitus
Force Stave
Storm Bolter
Fury of the Ancients
Psychic Fortress
98

TROOPS

Scout Squad (5 man)
Camo Cloaks x 5
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Storm Bolter
3 Scouts w/ Boltgun
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
82

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Boltgun . Chainsword
7 Marines w/ Boltgun
1 Marine w/ plasma gun
1 marine w/ missile launcher
161

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Boltgun . Chainsword
7 Marines w/ Boltgun
1 Marine w/ plasma gun
1 marine w/ missile launcher
161

ELITES

Redemptor Dreadnought
2 Fragstom Grenade Launchers
Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon
Heavy Flamer
Icarus Rocket Pod
Redemptor Fist
163

Sternguard Veteran Squad (9 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Special Issue Boltgun
8 Veterans w/ Special Issue Boltgun
144

Terminator Assault Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Hammer & Stormshield
2 w/ Hammer & Stormshield
2 w/ Lightning Claws
Teleport Homer
193

Terminator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Power Sword & Storm Bolter
3 w/ Power Fist & Storm Bolter
1 w./ Power Fist & Assault Cannon
Teleport Homer
185

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt/ Boltgun
2 Marines w/ Boltguns
2 Marines w/ Missile Launchers
105

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt/ Boltgun
2 Marines w/ Boltguns
2 Marines w/ Missile Launchers
105

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Lucius Pattern Deadnought Drop Pod
80

Rhino
Storm Bolter
72

1747


Captain goes in reserve with Terminator Squad to provide reroll 1s to hit bubble and CC

Chaplain goes w/ Terminator Assault Squad for rerolls to hit in CC

Librarian goes with Sternguard Vet squad in Rhino.

Tac Squads combat squad and move up board on foot.

Dev Squads go in cover.

Redemptor stays in reserve for drop podding down when needed




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wow no-one has anything to say? ok i'll just build it

updated with new rules

Chapter Name: Emperor's Knights

Chapter Selection: Unknown Successor

Tactics: Bolter Fusillades, Stalwart

Battalion Detachment ; Battleforged and Detachment CP

Specialist Detachment: Indomitus Crusaders


HQ

Chaplain in Terminator Armour (WARLORD)
Storm Bolter
The Honor Vehement
Iron Resolve
92

Librarian
Hero of the Chapter
Reliquary of Gathalamor
Force Stave
Combi-Plasma
Fury of the Ancients
Psychic Fortess
99

Techmarine
Combi-Plasma
Conversion Beamer
Greyshield
Field Commander
Power Fist
85


TROOPS

Scout Squad (5 man)
5 Camo Cloaks
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Storm Bolter
Heavy Bolter
3 Boltguns
82

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword, Comb-Plasma
7 Boltguns
Plasma Gun
Missile Launcher
162

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword, Comb-Plasma
7 Boltguns
Plasma Gun
Missile Launcher
162

ELITES

Apothecary
50

Redemptor Dreadnought
2 Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
Icarus Rocket Pod
Heavy Flamer
Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon
163

Sternguard Veteran Squad (7 man)
Sgt w/ chainsword & Special Issue Boltgun
6 Special issue boltguns
107


Terminator Asault Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ TH&SS
2 w/ TH & SS
2 w/ LCs
Teleport Homer
193

Terminator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Power Sword & SB
3 w/ Power Fist & SB
1 w/ assault cannon & Power Fist
185

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Boltgun & Signum
2 w/ Missile Launchers
2 w/ boltguns
Armorium Cherub
110

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Boltgun & Signum
2 w/ Missile Launchers
2 w/ boltguns
Armorium Cherub
110

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Lucius Dreadnought Drop Pod
80

Rhino
x 2 Storm Bolters
69

Torn between Bolter Fusilades and Long Range Marksmen.

Thoughts?

Build it. But I don’t think stalwart gives you anything you really need. You have a lot of MSU so marines running won’t be a problem. Maybe warded instead? Gives you a lot of help against psychic heavy armies

I think the failing on a 1 or 2 is actually quite big. especially if against 3+ armour saves....

But could give them Stealthy instead.

Ill bite and your not going to like it. If this is for Comp Meta this list isn't very good.

Terminators are crap.
Your devastator squads have no tac marine bodies to absorb wounds.
You typically dont see cloaks on scouts unless your going snipers.
You have a chaplain as your warlord which is a melee centric aura character, with no melee units, besides the termies, which are crap.
Your psychic powers on your libby arent the best. Might of Heros and null zone are the best 2.
Where is the new hotness? The Primaris?

This looks like a 5th ed list. Which is fine if your going for fluff.

Honestly, i don't know if this is a gimmick troll list to see what people will say, or if you just aren't up to speed on the meta.

I suggest hoping over to the Space Marine Tactica thread to get a better idea of what others are thinking as far as units and combos.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, Just trying to be strait with you mate.

This is fluff list. Not competitive. More narrative.

Terminators are not crap IMO.
5 Ranged terminators now deal out 16 storm bolter shots in shooting plus the assault cannon
Assault Terminators can tank alot of stuff with storm shields and are a good disruption unit if they deep strike.

Psyhic Powers on libby I agree with but the librarian is with the sternguard to shield them from psychic attacks and null zone only has a 6" range.

The librarian, techmarine and apothecary are in the rhino with the Sternguard to act as a mobile death star.

Dev squads have 2 marines each to absorb wounds before missile launchers start dropping. Plus the armorium cherub.

Camo Cloaks on the scout squad is to give them a higher chance of survival since they'll be deploying in cover.

As far as the Chaplai is concerned, yes I could change him to a Terminator Librarian.....but I think Chaplains are underused now and I like Chaplains!





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Ok could change to librarian in terminator armour and give him null zone and might of heroes with Shield Eternal as my warlord instead of chaplain.


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actually i'm sticking to chaplain

rejigged as i have had a look at models done and want it WYSIWYG


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [85 PL, 2CP, 1,748pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Operative Requisition Sanctioned [-2CP, 85pts]

Relics of the Chapter (1 Relic) [-1CP]

Specialist Detachment

Use Beta Rules

+ HQ +

Chapter Master in Terminator Armor [6 PL, -2CP, 114pts]: Iron Resolve, Relic blade, Storm shield, Stratagem: Chapter Master, Warlord

Librarian in Terminator Armor [6 PL, 118pts]: 2) Might of Heroes, 3) Null Zone, Force stave, Storm shield, The Shield Eternal

Techmarine [4 PL, 69pts]: Boltgun, Power Sword, Conversion beamer

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

Tactical Squad [7 PL, 159pts]
. 7x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-flamer,
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Tactical Squad [7 PL, 159pts]
. 7x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-flamer
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

+ Elites +

Apothecary [3 PL, 50pts]: Teeth of Terra

Company Ancient [4 PL, -1CP, 67pts]: Fear Made Manifest, Power sword, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

Redemptor Dreadnought [7 PL, 163pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, Heavy flamer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod

Sternguard Veteran Squad [6 PL, 70pts]
. Space Marine Veteran: Special issue boltgun
. Space Marine Veteran: Special issue boltgun
. Space Marine Veteran: Special issue boltgun
. Space Marine Veteran: Special issue boltgun
. Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Special issue boltgun

Terminator Assault Squad [10 PL, 189pts]: Teleport Homer
. Terminator Sergeant
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. 2x Terminator w/THSS: 2x Storm shield, 2x Thunder hammer
. 2x Terminator w/x2LC: 2x Lightning Claw (Pair)

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [6 PL, 144pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon

Rapier Carrier [4 PL, 100pts]: 2x Space Marine Gunner
. Rapier Carrier: Laser destroyer

+ Dedicated Transport +

Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod [6 PL, 80pts]

Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun

++ Total: [85 PL, 2CP, 1,747pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

Just to show progress so far

Chapter Master in Terminator Armour (Valoris proxy)

Librarian in Terminator Armour (on right)

Techmarine (Space Marine Captain Proxy)

5 Assault Terminators, Sgt & 2 w/ TH/SS 2 w/ Lightning Claws (proxied)

Sternguard on right with special issue bolters

Scout Squad w/ heavy bolter on left

Dev squad w/ lascannon, multi-melta and 2 plasma cannons on left

Redemptor

2 Tactical Squads w/ plasma gun & Missile launcher.

Razorback w/ Lascannon & T-L Plasma gun