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Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btmQ3yPGDCs

Take with appropriate levels of salt.

Basically as the video. Rumour is stated to be from a source that correctly predicted contents and nature of Blackstone Fortress.

I'll summarise for those who hate Youtube -

1. Marine supplements will be spaced roughly 2 months apart.
2. Iron Hands and Raven Guard next supplement releases apparently. [Update - source has claimed that Salamanders and IF will be next instead, order change.]
3. Every chapter will be getting an upgrade sprue.
4. Black Templars vs Orks next box set.
5. Ghazghkull is getting a new model.

May be linked to psychic awakening that references "the beast".

Thoughts?

UPDATE 6/9/19
Update video - https://youtu.be/yiaoTSNF6Ws

Update news -

Release order of supplements has changed as addition to point 2 above, this is interesting because another rumourmonger (Valrak) has allegedly been told by his source that IH and Raven Guard are definitely next and will be up for preorder September 21st.
Black Templar's will be in a separate book from IF and Crimson Fists, presumably released around the same time as the boxed set (if it's to be believed).

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Some people have speculated that one of the recent rumor engines could be one of those relics Grimaldus always has with him. Though, it would be the first boxset that I can think of featuring a new model plus his retinue.

There's also the possibility of a new Helbrecht. And would that deprive the IF of getting their own character, like Lysander? The IF did get an upgrade sprue during that christmas box set.
   
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Screams Armageddon. Last box set was set in the system where the campaign at the time was happening. Maybe we will see a new campaign centered around Ghaz coming back to smash Armageddon proper. Could be reason for BT to get a nice wave of 'Assault' Primaris to fit with their feel, and get some Primaris Characters.

I'd be super stoked to find this true. BT get some model love, and Ghaz gets a new model? Great.

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The psychic awakening trailer also says "faith will be tested" or something to that effect. I could believe BT and Orks getting a showing and more importantly I want to believe.
   
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I'm always excited when Kirioth talks about rumours, since he also speculates himself on the validity of the claims.

It looks within the realm of possibility. Has their been any speculation about Armageddon recently? Might expect that it will be the next battlefront after Vigilus and BT V Orks boxset would fit.
   
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2 months between supplements seems a bit excessive...especially as Raven Guard not being released with the Phobos stuff just screams missed opportunity.
   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

1. Marine supplements will be spaced roughly 2 months apart.

Wait, what? It will take an year to get them all released! I really hope that this is not true. Considering how strong the super doctrines are, it leaves chapters without a supplement in a really awkward place.

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Orks say "high". They spent well over year being kicking dogs in even worse situation than single subfaction of big faction would be spending.

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If it is BT vs Orks I don't think it'd be Armageddon personally. I get the distinct impression from the codex that Ghazzy is done with that particular warzone for now. Could be wrong but I just don't get that vibe.
   
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We should be getting previews from NoVA in just over a week. We'll see if we get any information which can verify these rumors.

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 Crimson wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:

1. Marine supplements will be spaced roughly 2 months apart.

Wait, what? It will take an year to get them all released! I really hope that this is not true. Considering how strong the super doctrines are, it leaves chapters without a supplement in a really awkward place.

Sorry I forgot to mention they will be released in pairs however. So IH & RG are the next 2.
   
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 Crimson wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:

1. Marine supplements will be spaced roughly 2 months apart.

Wait, what? It will take an year to get them all released! I really hope that this is not true. Considering how strong the super doctrines are, it leaves chapters without a supplement in a really awkward place.


If they're releasing them in pairs, than you only have to wait six months to have all the options.
And as a faction, having so much extra to pick from seems worth the wait.

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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Sorry I forgot to mention they will be released in pairs however. So IH & RG are the next 2.

Oh right! That makes it more tolerable then.

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It sounds more plausible than many rumours. I don’t think they’ll go down the Armageddon route personally, unless they have a Steel Legion release they’ve kept hidden away coming as well. It also makes sense to make a Bobby G sized Ghaz in terms of GW’s current direction towards large army figureheads. As long as the marines in the box are usable painted as other chapters i’d be delighted.

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Ghaz is also one of the only characters you can size up without having to handwave it as a scale thing.

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So six months of marines.

Atleast ghazzi could get a much needed upgrade now

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Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.
   
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Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.

He now, no wonder the intern did the csm dex 2.0.

Yes i am still salty for not upgraded propper traits.

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This is going to make it even more difficult to get my hands on the Black Templar contrast paint, isn't it? It's never in stock as it is...
   
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This is going to make it even more difficult to get my hands on the Black Templar contrast paint, isn't it? It's never in stock as it is...


Your best bet is direct from the GW webstore these days.
   
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Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.


Considering there is six total, and two are already released, it would be:

RG/IH

Sons of Dorn/Salamanders

Funny enough, Armageddon had big showings from Black Templar and Salamanders, though I'd lol pretty hard if they Primaris the Ork line with bigger, more psychic-y Orks.

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Not Online!!! wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.

He now, no wonder the intern did the csm dex 2.0.

Yes i am still salty for not upgraded propper traits.

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 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.


Considering there is six total, and two are already released, it would be:

RG/IH

Sons of Dorn/Salamanders

Funny enough, Armageddon had big showings from Black Templar and Salamanders, though I'd lol pretty hard if they Primaris the Ork line with bigger, more psychic-y Orks.


You’ve left out three more pairs.
   
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Sterling191 wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.


Considering there is six total, and two are already released, it would be:

RG/IH

Sons of Dorn/Salamanders

Funny enough, Armageddon had big showings from Black Templar and Salamanders, though I'd lol pretty hard if they Primaris the Ork line with bigger, more psychic-y Orks.


You’ve left out three more pairs.


Six total books, so no, I haven't missed anything... we already have UM and WS.

That'll also cover everything in the Codex, as sons of Dorn is three of the 8 chapters in there.

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 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.


Considering there is six total, and two are already released, it would be:

RG/IH

Sons of Dorn/Salamanders

Funny enough, Armageddon had big showings from Black Templar and Salamanders, though I'd lol pretty hard if they Primaris the Ork line with bigger, more psychic-y Orks.


You’ve left out three more pairs.


Six total books, so no, I haven't missed anything... we already have UM and WS.


Removed. I wasn’t talking about only compliant chapters.

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Yeah sounds like a great idea. Would love it to be true, but I’m not holding my breath. Although, if Armageddon is the next big warzone it would be nice to see both Black Templars vs Orks and Sisters of Battle vs Khorne. Then there is the possibility of Steel Legion being the replacement AM now that Cadians probably are on their way out.

Would be terribly expensive for me because I like all the above and would like to collect them all.

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Sterling191 wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.


Considering there is six total, and two are already released, it would be:

RG/IH

Sons of Dorn/Salamanders

Funny enough, Armageddon had big showings from Black Templar and Salamanders, though I'd lol pretty hard if they Primaris the Ork line with bigger, more psychic-y Orks.


You’ve left out three more pairs.


Six total books, so no, I haven't missed anything... we already have UM and WS.



Removed. I wasn’t talking about only compliant chapters.


They won't be supplements, they'll be their own Codex, so no, I didn't miss anything.

Seeing as the preview for White Dwarf for next month is Dark Angels, they could just slap the chapter tactic update in a Index Astartes: Dark Angels White Dwarf article.

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 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Factoring in the non-first founding chapters that’s an excruciatingly long time to relaunch the marine factions.


Considering there is six total, and two are already released, it would be:

RG/IH

Sons of Dorn/Salamanders

Funny enough, Armageddon had big showings from Black Templar and Salamanders, though I'd lol pretty hard if they Primaris the Ork line with bigger, more psychic-y Orks.


You’ve left out three more pairs.


Six total books, so no, I haven't missed anything... we already have UM and WS.



Use your brain. I wasn’t talking about only compliant chapters.


They won't be supplements, they'll be their own Codex, so no, I didn't miss anything.

Seeing as the preview for White Dwarf for next month is Dark Angels, they could just slap the chapter tactic update in a Index Astartes: Dark Angels White Dwarf article.


Sure, if they wanted to leave half the marine armies functionally neutered. Also the inherent hilarity of suggesting a WD article will close the gap is amusingly insulting.

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I will follow this thread with extreme interest.

Hoping for the greenest of the outcomes.
   
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Well, good, the snowflake chapters could use some time beneath the Codex Marines. Will be good to melt them a bit.

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