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Hey

wanted to make a competitive list with / Without the following.
- Mono DG army
- No Plague Bearers
- No Pox Walkers.

Wthat do people think.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [87 PL, 1,284pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction, Malefic talon, Wings

Malignant Plaguecaster [6 PL, 110pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 4. Blades of Putrefaction

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [10 PL, 133pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [10 PL, 133pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [10 PL, 133pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [27 PL, 334pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma

+ Fast Attack +

Myphitic Blight-haulers [7 PL, 117pts]
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [41 PL, 714pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 5. Putrescent Vitality, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Wings

Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 112pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Manreaper, Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 136pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 136pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy slugger

++ Total: [128 PL, 1,998pts] ++

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Hi ZoseDK,

A few thoughts:

- Only one myphitic blighthauler? Hitting on a 4+ with only two anti-tank shots is not going to accomplish a whole lot. If you are committed to mono-DG, I'd suggest at least three MBHs to deliver your anti-tank.

- What purpose do the rhinos serve? Shuttling the PMs around? I'll admit they can be a bit slow, but I'm not sure rhinos and PMs exactly qualify as competitive. You could save the points and invest more in your Blightlords, who are perfect for holding the centre of the board and chaff-clearing - I prefer combi-bolters to plasma, just because you don't want them cooking themselves.

- Plague Marine squads: the champion can take a plasma gun and it's a worthwhile investment. Blight launchers are good when paired with a chaos lord with Arch-Contaminator - then you have two buffing aura abilities on one handy character, and with Fugaris' Helm you can expand the auras to 9". I've used such a character in many a game and he's become my favourite when paired with PMs. You can afford to take an extra relic: DG stratagems are decidedly meh anyway.

- Also, I gather PBCs are better with plaguespitters, but don't have the most experience with them. That way they can advance up the board, provide moving support for your footslogging infantry and deter charges with the plague hoses.

 Drakeslayer wrote:
Hi ZoseDK,

A few thoughts:

- Only one myphitic blighthauler? Hitting on a 4+ with only two anti-tank shots is not going to accomplish a whole lot. If you are committed to mono-DG, I'd suggest at least three MBHs to deliver your anti-tank.

- What purpose do the rhinos serve? Shuttling the PMs around? I'll admit they can be a bit slow, but I'm not sure rhinos and PMs exactly qualify as competitive. You could save the points and invest more in your Blightlords, who are perfect for holding the centre of the board and chaff-clearing - I prefer combi-bolters to plasma, just because you don't want them cooking themselves.

- Plague Marine squads: the champion can take a plasma gun and it's a worthwhile investment. Blight launchers are good when paired with a chaos lord with Arch-Contaminator - then you have two buffing aura abilities on one handy character, and with Fugaris' Helm you can expand the auras to 9". I've used such a character in many a game and he's become my favourite when paired with PMs. You can afford to take an extra relic: DG stratagems are decidedly meh anyway.

- Also, I gather PBCs are better with plaguespitters, but don't have the most experience with them. That way they can advance up the board, provide moving support for your footslogging infantry and deter charges with the plague hoses.

Thx for the advice.

Been playing abit with the list. and tried with this.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [73 PL, 1,210pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 1. Revoltingly Resilient, 4. Blades of Putrefaction, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Sorcerer [6 PL, 98pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 4. Blades of Putrefaction, Bolt pistol, Force sword

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [13 PL, 220pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Plaguesword, Plasma pistol, Power fist
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe

Plague Marines [10 PL, 141pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Bolt pistol, Plague knife, Power fist
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [10 PL, 143pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Bolt pistol, Plague knife, Power fist
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Myphitic Blight-haulers [21 PL, 351pts]
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [47 PL, 790pts] ++

+ HQ +

Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 112pts]: Manreaper

+ Elites +

Biologus Putrifier [4 PL, 60pts]

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 243pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 243pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Tallyman [4 PL, 55pts]: Plasma pistol

++ Total: [120 PL, 2,000pts] ++

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I'm liking how this is shaping up - vanguard detachment looks pretty perfect.

Melee PMs can be pretty punchy with the new hateful assault rule - a couple of flails wouldn't go amiss. How do you plan on delivering them and the foul blightspawn? This is where the rhinos would come in handy - to deliver melee PMs, whereas with your previous list they were ranged and so didn't need the delivery method. You'd also need to think about how to deliver the supporting characters - they can't all fit in one rhino with 10 marines.

As for your shooty PMs, save a couple of points and drop the power fists - maybe in exchange for plasma guns.

Overall, a nice looking list - I wish you luck with it!

 Drakeslayer wrote:
I'm liking how this is shaping up - vanguard detachment looks pretty perfect.

Melee PMs can be pretty punchy with the new hateful assault rule - a couple of flails wouldn't go amiss. How do you plan on delivering them and the foul blightspawn? This is where the rhinos would come in handy - to deliver melee PMs, whereas with your previous list they were ranged and so didn't need the delivery method. You'd also need to think about how to deliver the supporting characters - they can't all fit in one rhino with 10 marines.

As for your shooty PMs, save a couple of points and drop the power fists - maybe in exchange for plasma guns.

Overall, a nice looking list - I wish you luck with it!

Appreciating the feedback..

Been tweeking a little.

the 10 man cc marine squad reduced to 8 man squad.
1 foul blightspawn removed
some powerfists removed.
2 Chaos rhinos added.

SO

idea.

terminators + lord of contagion deepstrike in at some point to hold down a sector.

8 man squad cc marines + purifier and tally man in one rhino to go where needed. So perhaps alot of grenade storm followed by assault.
7 man squad of ranged marines + 1 foul blightspawn in other rhino to go hold down some objective.
7 man squad of ranged marines deployed wiht DP, sorcerer and myphitic blight crawlers to move around freely.

thats more or less the tacs i was thinking of.

Thoughts?



++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [69 PL, 1,082pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 1. Revoltingly Resilient, 4. Blades of Putrefaction, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Sorcerer [6 PL, 98pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 4. Blades of Putrefaction, Bolt pistol, Force sword

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [13 PL, 187pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Plague knife, Plasma pistol, Power fist
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Flail of Corruption
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Flail of Corruption

Plague Marines [10 PL, 132pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Bolt pistol, Plague knife
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [10 PL, 134pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Bolt pistol, Plague knife
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

+ Fast Attack +

Myphitic Blight-haulers [21 PL, 351pts]
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [55 PL, 916pts] ++

+ HQ +

Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 112pts]: Manreaper

+ Elites +

Biologus Putrifier [4 PL, 60pts]

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 234pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 234pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Tallyman [4 PL, 55pts]: Plasma pistol

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter

++ Total: [124 PL, 1,998pts] ++

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Drop the lord of contagion for a chaos lord in terminator armor so you are not killing yourself with terminator plasma. Use the extra points to make your sorcerer a malignant plague caster kicking out more mortal wounds

ZoseDK wrote:

 Drakeslayer wrote:
I'm liking how this is shaping up - vanguard detachment looks pretty perfect.


+ Fast Attack +

Myphitic Blight-haulers [21 PL, 351pts]
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Missile launcher, Multi-melta



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I like what you are going for here, but I'm coming up with 426 points for the MBHs X3 with the codex layout.

Even if the codex allowed us to drop the bile spurt, that's only 15 points.

What am I missing?

I will also add that I am new to this edition, and the DG, so forgive me if I am asking something already answered.

Melee plague marines seems redundant if you're also taking Blightlord Terminators.

Death Guard special rules buff shooty weapons so I'd make sure everyone has a bolter. If you want a melee Plague Marine to toss a grenade (which is still too short ranged to ever work), mix them in units, but keep some Bolters.

Plus about 90% of Plague Marine models have bolters.

You take melee PMs to apply more pressure and dominate the board - I've lost count of the number of times my Blightlords have failed 9" charges from deepstrike, and then never made it into combat because the opponent just out-manoevres them. They're there to drop down and apply pressure with fire power, and take and hold ground.
Melee PMs in rhinos gives you more opportunities to make those charges and clear your opponent off objectives.

The couple of things I am really not sure about is the Lord of Contagion and the Purifier (Grenade guy).

If you drop both and tweak out 9pts from elsewhere you can have a second daemon prince. I only say this as the Lord of Contagion (I am assuming) drops with your terminators but as he is not giving them a re roll buff he seems a little redundant, yes he can be a passable version of a smash captain, but 2 daemon princes running around gives you a decent amount of hard hitting close combat that can effectively support your CC Plague Marines in combat.

Take this with a bit of grain of salt, because our LGS meta isn't that competitive, but this is so similar to your list so I don't see why not share with you. My list is unbeatable so far, but my opponents are not that comp to be honest.

Batallion

DP of Nurgle with wings, suppurating plate, dual talons, miasma of pestilence and arch-contaminator
Malignant plaguecaster, putrescent vitality and blades of putrefaction

7man PM, 3x plasma, plaguesword
7man PM, 2x BL, plasma, plaguesword
7man PM, 2x flail, PF&plaguesword, 4x dual knife

Foul blightspawn

Chaos rhino

Outrider

Chaos lord with JP, plaguebringer, combi-melta (because points)
Sorcerer in terminator armour, miasma of pestilence, blades of putrefaction

Bloat-drone with spitters
Bloat-drone with spitters
Bloat-drone with spitters

Plagueburst crawler with spitters

7man BL termies, flail, balesword (points), 6x combi-bolters

2k on the nose and have to say the chaos lord with blades of putrefaction, VoTLW and plaguebringer has been really good in every game. Gives you 2 MW on 5+ or 1 MW on 4+ to wound against imperium on top of any other damage.. you can buff it even more with putrescent vitality..

But dunno how the Nurgle 7 would perform against real lists though, but somehow I always build my DG list with 7man units, hehe..