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Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not. Although frankly I'm pretty pleased we won't have to shell out for endless spells.
Just a little peeved after buying the latest SM codex, which I'll then need to buy the RG supplement for, that I'll need a third supplement too. And a supplement for my GKs. And my CSM. And my Inquisiton/Guard army.
And fething get this, for my TAU. If you play tau, congrats, we get to shell out more money for the psychic awakening. Feth this company.

Also they literally just released warcry and it's already getting a supplement.

I'm pissed off they couldn't have an announcement for 40k without saying they're releasing more Mehreen models first.

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not. Although frankly I'm pretty pleased we won't have to shell out for endless spells.
Just a little peeved after buying the latest SM codex, which I'll then need to buy the RG supplement for, that I'll need a third supplement too. And a supplement for my GKs. And my CSM. And my Inquisiton/Guard army.
And fething get this, for my TAU. If you play tau, congrats, we get to shell out more money for the psychic awakening. Feth this company.

Idk, everyone thought they'd have to buy vigilus and...nope.

ERJAK wrote:

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not. Although frankly I'm pretty pleased we won't have to shell out for endless spells.
Just a little peeved after buying the latest SM codex, which I'll then need to buy the RG supplement for, that I'll need a third supplement too. And a supplement for my GKs. And my CSM. And my Inquisiton/Guard army.
And fething get this, for my TAU. If you play tau, congrats, we get to shell out more money for the psychic awakening. Feth this company.

Idk, everyone thought they'd have to buy vigilus and...nope.

This feels a little bigger than vigilus, which was just for marines (now partly invalidated by the new codex) and csm.

I don't think the vigilus supplements brought anything to the game that was a must buy. I got some specialist detachment rules for the eldar but I can take them or leave them and I didn't have to buy the book in order to use these...

More importantly, no endless spells by the looks of it ( I assume maybe new psychic disciplines for some factions?) and new plastic aspects!!

Also, why are you surprised dude? Just don't buy the books...

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not. Although frankly I'm pretty pleased we won't have to shell out for endless spells.
Just a little peeved after buying the latest SM codex, which I'll then need to buy the RG supplement for, that I'll need a third supplement too. And a supplement for my GKs. And my CSM. And my Inquisiton/Guard army.
And fething get this, for my TAU. If you play tau, congrats, we get to shell out more money for the psychic awakening. Feth this company.

Also they literally just released warcry and it's already getting a supplement.

It's almost like they have a staff of writers to keep employed.

Constant churn of new models means new books - either replacement codexes or books like this.

 Argive wrote:
I don't think the vigilus supplements brought anything to the game that was a must buy. I got some specialist detachment rules for the eldar but I can take them or leave them and I didn't have to buy the book in order to use these...

More importantly, no endless spells by the looks of it ( I assume maybe new psychic disciplines for some factions?) and new plastic aspects!!

Also, why are you surprised dude? Just don't buy the books...

Books are by far the easiest thing to avoid paying for tbh. Not even through piracy, just through like...army builders and video reviews you can pretty much get everything you need.

Yeah. So, let's remember, GW generally sticks to a pattern that repeats over the course of several years.

In late 7th edition, we got Gathering Storm, Clan Raukaan, Traitor Legions, Traitor's Hate, etc. They were all good for about a year.

Now it's 8th edition. We just got the Vigilus Books, new CSM and SM codexes, now Psychic Awakening.

This is a hint. 9th edition is on the way.

 techsoldaten wrote:
Yeah. So, let's remember, GW generally sticks to a pattern that repeats over the course of several years.

In late 7th edition, we got Gathering Storm, Clan Raukaan, Traitor Legions, Traitor's Hate, etc. They were all good for about a year.

Now it's 8th edition. We just got the Vigilus Books, new CSM and SM codexes, now Psychic Awakening.

This is a hint. 9th edition is on the way.

It's not 9th if the game doesn't change drastically. If Psychic Awakening gives us some more formations and psychic spells then they're really just filling in holes from 7th. Any new BRB would just be combining this stuff together.

There's no incentive to kick the system around with a yearly Chapter Approved.

 Eonfuzz wrote:
I'm pissed off they couldn't have an announcement for 40k without saying they're releasing more Mehreen models first.

Yes, yes, we all know that every non-Ork release that comes out, GW comes to your house and slaps you directly in the face and twice when it a marine release. We are all sorry for that.

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not. Although frankly I'm pretty pleased we won't have to shell out for endless spells.
Just a little peeved after buying the latest SM codex, which I'll then need to buy the RG supplement for, that I'll need a third supplement too. And a supplement for my GKs. And my CSM. And my Inquisiton/Guard army.
And fething get this, for my TAU. If you play tau, congrats, we get to shell out more money for the psychic awakening. Feth this company.

Also they literally just released warcry and it's already getting a supplement.

Not sure what you thought would come out of something they said would impact every army. GW doesn't do free rules.

ERJAK wrote:

Idk, everyone thought they'd have to buy vigilus and...nope.

I don't know, for my Orkz the Vigilus book is basically required to be competitive. Without it you can't use the SSAG which is unarguably the best weapon in our entire arsenal, not to mention that it gives you access to a 2nd shoot again stratagem. Heavily nerfed now that we don't use the Loota bomb anymore but still very important for Orkz to be competitive.

I didn't buy Vigilus. Why will I have to buy this?

SemperMortis wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Idk, everyone thought they'd have to buy vigilus and...nope.

I don't know, for my Orkz the Vigilus book is basically required to be competitive. Without it you can't use the SSAG which is unarguably the best weapon in our entire arsenal, not to mention that it gives you access to a 2nd shoot again stratagem. Heavily nerfed now that we don't use the Loota bomb anymore but still very important for Orkz to be competitive.

You'll probably only need it up to when they release an updated Ork codex, assuming the campaign book doesn't just replace it.

 Eonfuzz wrote:
I'm pissed off they couldn't have an announcement for 40k without saying they're releasing more Mehreen models first.

You live in a strange world if you're pissed off given that we're in the middle of a space marine release wave. and that anyone with a lick of common sense knew that we'd be getting a new primaris character for each of the supplements. seriously, this is like getting pissed off about all the Ork hype during the lead up to speed freaks

BrianDavion wrote:

 Eonfuzz wrote:
I'm pissed off they couldn't have an announcement for 40k without saying they're releasing more Mehreen models first.

You live in a strange world if you're pissed off given that we're in the middle of a space marine release wave. and that anyone with a lick of common sense knew that we'd be getting a new primaris character for each of the supplements. seriously, this is like getting pissed off about all the Ork hype during the lead up to speed freaks

But the salt must flow!

The difference between "Wow, we all have to buy new supplements" and "Wow, we're all getting new content" is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm looking really forward to new xeno content. Hopefully it addresses some of the very legit complaints the loss / lack of DE HQ units and viable TAU alien auxiliaries- though that's hard to do given that it is a psychic themed rules update. Still, these factions benefit from ANY attention. Sisters weren't included in the list, but their dex might include this content depending on the timing of the release. My personal favourite on the list?

=][= Inquisition =][=

PenitentJake wrote:
The difference between "Wow, we all have to buy new supplements" and "Wow, we're all getting new content" is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm looking really forward to new xeno content. Hopefully it addresses some of the very legit complaints the loss / lack of DE HQ units and viable TAU alien auxiliaries- though that's hard to do given that it is a psychic themed rules update. Still, these factions benefit from ANY attention. Sisters weren't included in the list, but their dex might include this content depending on the timing of the release. My personal favourite on the list?

=][= Inquisition =][=

Inquisition has me interested, but I noticed a lack of the cog boys.

 Eonfuzz wrote:
I'm pissed off they couldn't have an announcement for 40k without saying they're releasing more Mehreen models first.

You shouldn't take it so personally. It's no surprise at all that Space Marines are getting new models, and will continue to do so at least until all of the new Space Marine supplements are released. It's likely that you're going to see at least one new Primaris Character for each supplement. We've already seen Kor'sarro Khan, the new Iron Hands tech marine, and now Kayvaan Shrike. Expect at least one new Primaris character each for Imperial Fists and Salamanders, and don't be surprised if Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Dark Angels start to jump on board the Primaris train after that.

 techsoldaten wrote:
Yeah. So, let's remember, GW generally sticks to a pattern that repeats over the course of several years.

In late 7th edition, we got Gathering Storm, Clan Raukaan, Traitor Legions, Traitor's Hate, etc. They were all good for about a year.

Now it's 8th edition. We just got the Vigilus Books, new CSM and SM codexes, now Psychic Awakening.

This is a hint. 9th edition is on the way.

I like how your pattern is one instance. That's not how patterns work silly!


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 ClockworkZion wrote:

PenitentJake wrote:
The difference between "Wow, we all have to buy new supplements" and "Wow, we're all getting new content" is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm looking really forward to new xeno content. Hopefully it addresses some of the very legit complaints the loss / lack of DE HQ units and viable TAU alien auxiliaries- though that's hard to do given that it is a psychic themed rules update. Still, these factions benefit from ANY attention. Sisters weren't included in the list, but their dex might include this content depending on the timing of the release. My personal favourite on the list?

=][= Inquisition =][=

Inquisition has me interested, but I noticed a lack of the cog boys.

No INQ, that's Deathwatch.


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SemperMortis wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Idk, everyone thought they'd have to buy vigilus and...nope.

I don't know, for my Orkz the Vigilus book is basically required to be competitive. Without it you can't use the SSAG which is unarguably the best weapon in our entire arsenal, not to mention that it gives you access to a 2nd shoot again stratagem. Heavily nerfed now that we don't use the Loota bomb anymore but still very important for Orkz to be competitive.

True, but you know what those things are and what they do so you don't need to buy the book to use them.

PenitentJake wrote:
I'm looking really forward to new xeno content. Hopefully it addresses some of the very legit complaints the loss / lack of DE HQ units and viable TAU alien auxiliaries- though that's hard to do given that it is a psychic themed rules update.

Psychic Gue'vesa? New Kroot psychers maybe? Who knows, maybe that hole Abaddon tore in the Galaxy's donkey cave has awakened psychic abilities in the fishmen themselves.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Eonfuzz wrote:
I'm pissed off they couldn't have an announcement for 40k without saying they're releasing more Mehreen models first.

You live in a strange world if you're pissed off given that we're in the middle of a space marine release wave. and that anyone with a lick of common sense knew that we'd be getting a new primaris character for each of the supplements. seriously, this is like getting pissed off about all the Ork hype during the lead up to speed freaks

But the salt must flow!

tell me about it, it's childish and petty. a xenos race gets previewed a much needed new sculpt, with the hopeful implications that the entire eldar aspect warrior range will be revamped. and he bitches that a space marine mini we all knew was coming anyway was previewed.

Cry about it.

Yet more rules bloat. GW are really trying to push it to needing 150 rules sources aren't they?

ERJAK wrote:


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SemperMortis wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Idk, everyone thought they'd have to buy vigilus and...nope.

I don't know, for my Orkz the Vigilus book is basically required to be competitive. Without it you can't use the SSAG which is unarguably the best weapon in our entire arsenal, not to mention that it gives you access to a 2nd shoot again stratagem. Heavily nerfed now that we don't use the Loota bomb anymore but still very important for Orkz to be competitive.

True, but you know what those things are and what they do so you don't need to buy the book to use them.

A lot of competitive events say if you don't have the book with you, you can't use the model.

It sounds like it is not one book but the series title. It appears that like the vigilus books they are campaign books that will focus on "two or more" factions. This no need to get unless you want the book for the fluff or the faction rules. Basically a way to update armies without having to do whole new dexes.

 buddha wrote:
It sounds like it is not one book but the series title. It appears that like the vigilus books they are campaign books that will focus on "two or more" factions. This no need to get unless you want the book for the fluff or the faction rules. Basically a way to update armies without having to do whole new dexes.

I much prefer it this way. Rewriting a codex pisses me off, because it invalidates the one I already have. Campaign supplements however, supplement my codex, giving me the choice to partake or ignore as I feel. I always prefer choice over mandate.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Yet more rules bloat. GW are really trying to push it to needing 150 rules sources aren't they?

well I suppose GW could just start 9th edition and put out codexes all over again. if I've got to buy 5 books from GW i'd rather it be some optional goodies rather then the same flipping codex 5 times


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 Ginjitzu wrote:

 buddha wrote:
It sounds like it is not one book but the series title. It appears that like the vigilus books they are campaign books that will focus on "two or more" factions. This no need to get unless you want the book for the fluff or the faction rules. Basically a way to update armies without having to do whole new dexes.

I much prefer it this way. Rewriting a codex pisses me off, because it invalidates the one I already have. Campaign supplements however, supplement my codex, giving me the choice to partake or ignore as I feel. I always prefer choice over mandate.

exactly I'm in this same boat as well. and as someone who enjoys the fluff I actually enjoy reading it.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Yet more rules bloat. GW are really trying to push it to needing 150 rules sources aren't they?

Not really. The Marine codex basically negated the need for Vigilus.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Yet more rules bloat. GW are really trying to push it to needing 150 rules sources aren't they?

Not really. The Marine codex basically negated the need for Vigilus.

I guess all those Imperial Guard players only need the Space Marine codex now?