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Making up a Khorne Soulforge list for RTT's. Would like any and all feedback.


++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [25 PL, 410pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP

+ Lord of War +

Kytan Ravager [25 PL, 410pts]: Kytan gatling cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [72 PL, 6CP, 1,272pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Field Commander [-1CP]

Legion: Brazen Beasts

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Soulforged Pack

+ HQ +

Chaos Hellwright on Dark Abeyant [9 PL, 136pts]: Flamer, Mark of Khorne, Master of the Soulforges
. Dark Abeyant: Warpfire lance

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: Carve the Runes, Daemonflesh Plate, Khorne, Malefic talon, Warlord, Warp bolter, Wings

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 8x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 162pts]: 2x Hellflamer, 2x Hellforged deathclaw, Khorne

+ Fast Attack +

Blood Slaughterer of Khorne [9 PL, 165pts]: Slaughter blade

Blood Slaughterer of Khorne [9 PL, 165pts]: Slaughter blade

+ Heavy Support +

Hellforged Rapier Battery [8 PL, 152pts]: Khorne
. Hellforged Rapier and crew: 2x Chaos Space Marine Crew, Quad heavy bolter
. Hellforged Rapier and crew: 2x Chaos Space Marine Crew, Quad heavy bolter

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [9 PL, 157pts]: Hades Autocannon, Heldrake claws, Mark of Khorne

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Daemons) [16 PL, , 315pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Khorne

Detachment CP [1CP]

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Bloodmaster [3 PL, 56pts]

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 189pts]: A'rgath, the King of Blades, Hellforged sword, Khorne, Warp bolter, Wings

Karanak [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [113 PL, 6CP, 1,997pts] ++

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Hey man, this seems to be a good stab at making brazen beasts work. The warlord is a massive beatstick and I'm a fan of the angraath king of blades prince too. Until the daemon prince rule of 3 change I'd regularly use him, skullreaver prince and 2 Thousand Sons daemon princes in my tournement lists.

Anyway, a couple of thoughts with the list. I'd really try and change those cultists into csm with chainsword. I think they're really potent with brazen beasts trait. I'd take units of 10 so you get 31 s4 attacks with hateful assault rule, a few of them getting big ap.

I think you could afford to loose the contemptor to squeeze them in. You're not short on anti tank I think you'll struggle to get through hoardes quickly enough.

What sort of stuff are you expecting to run into at the RTT?

Mostly imperium stuff at most RTTs I play. Ad Mech, Deathwatch, Ultras, the occasional Knight, Tau and Nid players.

I've considered running WE instead. So I can get berzerkers for troops. But then I have to pay transport tax, otherwise they get shot to Oblivion before they see combat. The culty boys are purely for ob sec.

Nids and deathwatch are going to need a higher volume of lower ap and str attacks to get through them I think.

If those rapier batteries get picked off then each of those models is massively smushing 4 genesteelers and not much else. You could try the marines, or I run bikers to chew through hoardes (albeit mark of slanesh).

I got plenty of bikers I can try to fit in. Any other suggestions?

Warptalons, although I really wouldn't run them without the host raptorial detachment. Bloodletter bomb and drop one or two of you daemon hqs?

Bikes are one of the best choices because with bolter discipline they're almost guaranteed to get through a good chunk of chaff in turn 1 which helps the rest of your units get into the meatier stuff in an army.

You could run combi bolter on champion and about 6 bikers if you swap out that contemptor?

This is what I ended up with when testing vs. a White Scars list.


++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [25 PL, 410pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP

+ Lord of War +

Kytan Ravager [25 PL, 410pts]: Kytan gatling cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [73 PL, 6CP, 1,275pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Field Commander [-1CP]

Legion: Brazen Beasts

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Soulforged Pack

+ HQ +

Chaos Hellwright on Dark Abeyant [9 PL, 136pts]: Flamer, Mark of Khorne, Master of the Soulforges
. Dark Abeyant: Warpfire lance

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 78pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Power sword

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: Carve the Runes, Daemonflesh Plate, Khorne, Malefic talon, Warlord, Warp bolter, Wings

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

+ Fast Attack +

Bikers [8 PL, 94pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter

Blood Slaughterer of Khorne [9 PL, 165pts]: Slaughter blade

Blood Slaughterer of Khorne [9 PL, 165pts]: Slaughter blade

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [7 PL, 152pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. 4x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 4x Reaper chaincannon

Hellforged Rapier Battery [8 PL, 152pts]: Khorne
. Hellforged Rapier and crew: 2x Chaos Space Marine Crew, Quad heavy bolter
. Hellforged Rapier and crew: 2x Chaos Space Marine Crew, Quad heavy bolter

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Daemons) [16 PL, , 315pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Khorne

Detachment CP [1CP]

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Bloodmaster [3 PL, 56pts]

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 189pts]: A'rgath, the King of Blades, Hellforged sword, Khorne, Warp bolter, Wings

Karanak [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [114 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] ++

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We played ITC rules and as we would if it was an event. So, no holding back.

We played mission 4 and my opponent went first. Not a lot on his turn as he hid everything in ruins. He's 9 eliminators took some shots at my Havocs and kills a few. His Leviathan Dreadnought tool some shots at one of the blood slaughterers, killing it.

My first turn I marched ravager up to the dreadnought and moved everything else into position to assault. Bikers killed a couple scouts shooting at them in cover, Kytan halved the leviathan in shooting not much else had targets as he was still hiding in the ruins. In fight phase I deleted the leviathan even with the half damage strat, the remaining slaughterer killed only 3 scouts the bikers killed a few scouts as well. The heldrake was able to fight a unit of scouts on his back line and a librarian. Putting all attacks on the librarian and killing it. Popped the Brazen beasts strat for mw on the smash captain that intervened for 1 mw. Then the captain deleted the drake.

His T2 the centurions came in and deleted the bikers in shooting, and failed their charge into the slaughterer. Aggressors and smash captain charged the Kytan, captain swings and wounds with 3 making 2 saves, I interrupted combat to kill 4/5 aggressors. Slaughterer killed the captain, captain used strat to attack after death, doing much better and dealing 16 damage to the Kytan killing it.

My turn I flew my BB Prince to kill the chaplain that was with the aggressors, slaughterer moved to charge centurions gets punted in overwatch due to 10d6 flamers+ Tactical Doctrine. Havocs killed some eliminators via Chaincannons. Rapiers killed a couple centurions via shooting. Bloodmaster killed the remaining scouts on the center objective via sword to the face. Sword prince moves out of cover to assist in the big fight in the middle. Prince kills chaplain gaining bonus Str and Atk from trait.

Opponents T3, Karanak denies both powers the remaining librarian had, including Null Zone. Everything moves to kill Brazen Daemon Prince. His Teeth of Terra captain flies in the center and kills the bloodmaster, the remaining centurions and librarian and lieutenant fight the DP. I managed to make 6/8 5++ saves and everything after due to amazing rolls and the relic 2+ Armor. Prince strikes back with all his bonus attacks and manages to hit 5 DttFE giving him 17 attacks. Hits 16, wounds 9 killing 4 and a half centurions. Leaving him with only a single wounded centurion in the unit. Plus some scouts and support characters. He conceded after that fight. Final score was 20-14 before factoring the concede which makes it 36-14.

Sounds like you faced a fairlt competitive list, all good signs! Let us know how you get on at RTT. Only thing I can think to add is do you think the hellwright pulled his weight? Could drop him for some more firepower if not? Or bring back the heldrake or contemptor?

The hellwright is the key to the Soulforge. So I gotta bring him. I never got to heal anything but was in prime position to melt some characters next turn.

Have you tried Skullreaver instead of Relic blade on the Chaos Daemon DP? i normaly do not have a game without it!

Tazberry wrote:
Have you tried Skullreaver instead of Relic blade on the Chaos Daemon DP? i normaly do not have a game without it!

I normally do use it. However I wanted to test out the sword in my meta since Titanic units are not as common as others.