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Well then...



Looks like the Union is also getting Vitruvian Colossi!

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Someone has been watching Battle Engine Alita! Rocket Hammer!!

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Kid of odd to make John Henry a machine (or maybe in power armor) when the whole point of the story is man vs machine.
   
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This is not a man in power armour... This is a warship crewed by dozens of men to go and hit other warships to smithereens with!

Some nations like to deploy under water Vitruvian Colossi (like the Prussians)



While others prefer to have them hauled in on battle barges and then skim over the water surface (like these American John Henry Colossi).

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Kid of odd to make John Henry a machine (or maybe in power armor) when the whole point of the story is man vs machine.


The artwork includes some silhouettes of a man next to it. It gives you an idea on how big the model is supposed to be in comparison to a human. That's why it's a 1/1200 scale.

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 Elmir wrote:


 Monkeysloth wrote:
Kid of odd to make John Henry a machine (or maybe in power armor) when the whole point of the story is man vs machine.


The artwork includes some silhouettes of a man next to it. It gives you an idea on how big the model is supposed to be in comparison to a human. That's why it's a 1/1200 scale.


It's more that the story of John Henry from America is that the man pitched his skill against a machine and won, though in doing so killed himself with exhaustion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_(folklore)


So having a machine named after him is some dark irony.

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That's a Monsterpocalypse model and you all know it.

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Thing is as Dystopian Wars won't feature the land battles, it means that model will either be flying or walking in water like the current mechs.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
That's a Monsterpocalypse model and you all know it.


I mean, they are Pacific Rim Jaegers 100%.

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I think I'd leave the head off and replace it with a giant golden statute of a bald eagle. Or at last give him a smokestack tophat/shako. Yeah.
   
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 Overread wrote:
Thing is as Dystopian Wars won't feature the land battles, it means that model will either be flying or walking in water like the current mechs.


Technically, the Prussian and Commonwealth Vitruvian colossi only walk on the ocean bed to get into position and then use aqua jetpacks to lift them slightly above the water surface.

That being said, it looks like the John Henry robot was a thing in the Spartan Era, where it was a flying/skimming robot:



This new John Henry looks like it combines weapons of the old restitution class robot with the flying robot though:

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Also, it looks like the line-up for colossi is getting expanded... This time, for the Commonwealth:

https://fb.watch/f3iBRMAGV3/

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The Chinese dragon things are also described as Colossi in various places, though I think many people don't consider them as such because they think/want the term Colossi to refer specifically to giant stompy bipedal humanoid robots only.

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I think its less about biped robots and more about the fact that there's colossal and then there's the Ice Maiden colossal

Plus don't forget dreadnoughts have yet to feature and they are big but not colossal big. So whilst the dragons are very very big, they aren't the biggest of the big.

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I'm not a fan of the whole concept of waterlined mecha.

Apart from that looks like a lovely, curved main body and awkwardly low tech, square arms.

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Thing is as they aren't doing the land game they won't do non-waterline mecha because then they'd need to stand on islands.

An whilst I full expect to see things like harbours and sea defences, I don't expect to see extensive land bodies as a feature in this edition of Dystopian Wars. So the mechs on land would be a very brief thing before they are back in the water.

It would be cool and the old models used to come with land and sea variations in the box (or for a few expensive ones they were sold separate - eg I think the Time Dilation Orb was like that

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There's a 10mm Dystopian land game coming, could have saved the things with legs for that and just not have them in the game set on water.

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I think armored warfare or whatever they are calling the 10mm game is "coming" only in the sense that they have an intent to produce it one-day. Last update we had was basically they put development of everything else legacy-spartan related on-hold to focus on making sure dystopian wars had the level of support needed for long term success (which is good). I assume that means bringing all the factions up to relative parity and having a broad range of options available for each. I think they said Firestrom Armada would be coming out once they felt that Dystopian Wars had its feet comfortably underneath it IIRC, which likely puts the land combat game ~5 years out, assuming it takes ~2+ years for them to feel dystopian is where it should be and then do the same for firestorm over the following ~3 years.

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Warcradle are much slower than Spartan at releases - which isn't a bad thing as Spartan tripped over themselves with too much.

But yeah they had the licence for 5 years or so before getting anything new out the door and even now we don't have Firestorm Armada on the market :(

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All true but it doesn't make walkers treading water any better.

Re: Armada, I've heard some reluctance from Warcradle about releasing a direct competitor against an actively developed space game in Dropfleet Commander. Plus, my two cents, there's always the sword of Damocles of a BFG remake hanging over such a project.

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Eh Dropfleet honestly floundered over the last years and didn't capitalise on being the only market game in its niche.

Plus they've always stuck to their space and ground system of battles; whlist Firestorm was your traditional ship vs ship.


I do agree BFG is a worry, but at the same time so is any return of Epic and Titan Legions to Dystopian Wars. Honestly I think if you let GW worry you too much you'll never dip your toes into the market.


I think FA can bring its own thing to the table and the market having 2 or 3 spaceship games isn't a problem.





I think its just that WC aren't GW and don't have the resources to just throw out double their output of plastic a month to support two games right now.

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Yeah, I don't think competition with dropfleet is a serious concern (if it was, then competition with dropzone would be an impediment for armored clash or whatever, both being 10mm scale vehicular-focused combat games). While it is "actively developed" , it gets a fraction of the level of support Warcradle is giving to Dystopian Wars. If TTC was able to produce new kits for Dropfleet at the rate that Warcradle does for Dystopian (and presumably would for Firestorm), then people might actually play it regularly.

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Well, that's what I heard from Warcradle.

Anywhoo this thread somehow skipped over a very impactful sneak peak, the Big Battlefleet for the Enlightened is on the way for September!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chca7oYL8YF/?hl=en

What's interesting is we can see two different resin ships - a glimpse of something right at the start with what looks like an Iron Man landing pad, then a plastic centipede thing, then the resin mass 4 Vault Ship. Usually these clips were always of a single box's contents, so this will be the first battlefleet with 2 resin ships. You can also bet there's more things on the new sprue than one centipede. Word on the street is also upgrade bits for previously released models.

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That's sounding like a very fancy set. I have to say I'm really pleased Dystopian Wars is now starting to hit its stride with the fancy stuff!

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looks like the nautilus to me

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Hate to disappoint... but that first model briefly in view looks like a Plinius support carrier (the aft of it).

Which makes sense if the battlefleet set is 3 support squad sprues and 3 new sprues to make the centipedes...

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Ah, you're right. I didn't even consider it because the color seemed resin to me.

This is still great news as we've been struggling to get Support Squadrons in stock here.

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Seems the full-on previews are out today. It is in fact an Enlightened (Archimedes) Battlefleet

Also announced are Jaegers Colossi for the Commonwealth (who, unfortunately, do not look enough like shameless ripoffs of Cherno Alpha for my taste).

https://blog.warcradle.com/blog/september-releases-the-archimedes-arrives-to-astonish

On a separate note - is there a good US based online stockist for DW? I went through the options on the DW site and half of them don't seem to stock the game at all (I reached out to a couple of them who said they stopped carrying it), the other half are like 2 months behind on releases and/or out of stock on half of the product range (like miniaturemarket). Bit frustrating.

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Hot damn, that's one big Battlefleet. I can't even tell what's new, besides the flagship and the giant centipedes.

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Hot damn, that's one big Battlefleet. I can't even tell what's new, besides the flagship and the giant centipedes.


It has 2 old Frontline sprues, 2 old Support sprues and 2 new "Advance" sprues (each containing a high-tech cruiser (4 build options), centipede (2 build options), an escort token and two different special SRS tokens)

So it contains every Elightened model that exists so far, except the two resin battleships from the two player starter.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Hot damn, that's one big Battlefleet. I can't even tell what's new, besides the flagship and the giant centipedes.


It has 2 old Frontline sprues, 2 old Support sprues and 2 new "Advance" sprues (each containing a high-tech cruiser (4 build options), centipede (2 build options), an escort token and two different special SRS tokens)

So it contains every Elightened model that exists so far, except the two resin battleships from the two player starter.


Thanks!
It really is enormous, innit?

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