New Craftworlds Codex, Made to Order week etc UPDATED [Pre-order/Made to Order Oct 21st]

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**Ghaz**

Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

**Alendrel**

Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

**Kanluwen**

Interestingly, the Bonesinger is said to be including a booklet with rules to allow it to be fielded in 40k.

**Chief**

Awesome the Bonesinger gets a datasheet with him!

**Karhedron**

Spartacus wrote:
So wait - ALL Eldar units benefit from these traits?

Is my 4th Edition Grav Tank Parking lot list back in business?

Can someone confirm this before I die of anticipation

Confirmed, ALL units (not just infantry). Grav Tank spam is definitely viable, I am guessing the Alaitoc trait would suit you best but a case could be made for both Ulthwe and Iyanden.

**DanielFM**

Dionysodorus wrote:
webway assault: 1-3 CP to infiltrate
cloud strike: 1 CP vehicle deep strike

Quicken/Restrain: friendly unit within 18" moves again
Protect: +1 armor save (infantry/bikes only probably)

Fate: guide, doom, fortune, executioner (mws), something that gives fearless, mind war

Ynnari can't use "rules"
Attributes apply to everything including flyers

Reapers: 81 points for 3. launcher was 31 now 22
Shining Spears: down 6 to 18
Avengers: 12 points
banshees: no overwatch, advance and charge, +3" charge, can choose things 15" away to charge
Jain Zar: banshees fight first
war walkers: outflank
warp spiders: deep strike
hawks: assault 4, 13 points
scorpions: cheaper
wraithknight: no real changes
hemlock: now -2 Ld aura and cheaper
nightspinners: cheaper
falcon: 50 points cheaper
storm guardians: unchanged
windriders: 18 points w/ catapults, 28 w/ cannon (possibly didn't realize that catapults cost points)
scatter lasers: 15 points

wl traits:
mark of hunter: warlord can snipe characters
+2 move to wl
alatoic puritanical leader: 6" fearless aura
Ulthwe: command point at start of turn on a 6

Remnants:
Phoenix Gem: when slain, on a 2+ do d3 mortal wounds, if kill something then bearer comes back with 1 wound

Underwheelming Ynnari (without stratagems, warlord traits or relics) for a year while other factions get all the shiny toys!
Useless Wraithknight not going down in points (nor changed to be more powerful)?
Yeeeeah! They messed the two only things I was looking forward to in this released

**Niiru**

Kanluwen wrote:Interestingly, the Bonesinger is said to be including a booklet with rules to allow it to be fielded in 40k.

Chief wrote:Awesome the Bonesinger gets a datasheet with him!

Whoa whoa whoa, steady now. There is only so much arousal my trousers can withstand.

Though it might just be a datasheet that gives warlock, farseer and spiritseer statlines, and says you can choose one of the above.

However... it might be a repair character, something Eldar don't have any of (and I think are unique in not having any repairer characters). Fluffy too. I was already going to buy a couple, but now I am even more excited for it!

Edit:
Does seem very odd that they have now made Ynnari a bad choice. Even if you mix your lists, you can still legally take Harlequins (for example) with your Craftworld Eldar, in a separate detachment. You're probably better off with say, -1 to hit from Alaitoc for your Craftworld detachment, and keeping Battle Focus and Rising Crescendo as your other traits for craftworld and harlequins respectively.

Soulburst and Strength from Death no longer seem powerful enough to compete. At least until Ynnari get their own codex (which is HIGHLY unlikely).

**Lord Perversor**

DanielFM wrote:
Dionysodorus wrote:
webway assault: 1-3 CP to infiltrate
cloud strike: 1 CP vehicle deep strike

Quicken/Restrain: friendly unit within 18" moves again
Protect: +1 armor save (infantry/bikes only probably)

Fate: guide, doom, fortune, executioner (mws), something that gives fearless, mind war

Ynnari can't use "rules"
Attributes apply to everything including flyers

Reapers: 81 points for 3. launcher was 31 now 22
Shining Spears: down 6 to 18
Avengers: 12 points
banshees: no overwatch, advance and charge, +3" charge, can choose things 15" away to charge
Jain Zar: banshees fight first
war walkers: outflank
warp spiders: deep strike
hawks: assault 4, 13 points
scorpions: cheaper
wraithknight: no real changes
hemlock: now -2 Ld aura and cheaper
nightspinners: cheaper
falcon: 50 points cheaper
storm guardians: unchanged
windriders: 18 points w/ catapults, 28 w/ cannon (possibly didn't realize that catapults cost points)
scatter lasers: 15 points

wl traits:
mark of hunter: warlord can snipe characters
+2 move to wl
alatoic puritanical leader: 6" fearless aura
Ulthwe: command point at start of turn on a 6

Remnants:
Phoenix Gem: when slain, on a 2+ do d3 mortal wounds, if kill something then bearer comes back with 1 wound

Underwheelming Ynnari (without stratagems, warlord traits or relics) for a year while other factions get all the shiny toys!
Useless Wraithknight not going down in points (nor changed to be more powerful)?
Yeeeeah! They messed the two only things I was looking forward to in this released

Ynnari are not underwhelmed, they already was a decent contender, add the points reduction and units upgrades along with some new abilities (Fire prism double shoot, banshee mask changes) and they still got a buff.

**casvalremdeikun**

I would like the Alaitoc color scheme better if the helmets were white instead of yellow (basically you end up with an entire army of Dire Avengers!).

**Ghaz**

Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

**kastelen**

Well the most recent post really made it clear, EVERY codex must be better than admech.

**JohnHwangDD**

Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up.

Don't care. Waiting for Made-To-Order tomorrow...

**Galas**

kastelen wrote:
Well the most recent post really made it clear, EVERY codex must be better than admech.

**Karhedron**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
I would like the Alaitoc color scheme better if the helmets were white instead of yellow (basically you end up with an entire army of Dire Avengers!).

Your models, your paint scheme!

DanielFM wrote:

Dionysodorus wrote:
Ynnari can't use "rules"

Underwheelming Ynnari (without stratagems, warlord traits or relics) for a year while other factions get all the shiny toys!

I dunno, you can play Craftworld traits and just put an Ynnari Warlord in a separate Patrol detachment. They may not get the trait but the rest of your army does and you still get to replace the rather lacklustre Battle Focus with Strength From Death!

I think they have done a good job of making Craftworlds good again, for a while, Ynnari was all anyone was playing. Now both are viable.

**Kanluwen**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
I would like the Alaitoc color scheme better if the helmets were white instead of yellow (basically you end up with an entire army of Dire Avengers!).

If only there were variant color schemes...

**Galef**

Ghaz wrote:
Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

Did I select the wrong country? I thought NZ was New Zealand. The preorder there is $83, which would put it at $40 US.

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**Kanluwen**

Galef wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

Did I select the wrong country? I thought NZ was New Zealand. The preorder there is $83, which would put it at $40 US.

-

He's talking about Eldrad, as in the model.

**drakerocket**

Lord Perversor wrote:
DanielFM wrote:
Dionysodorus wrote:
webway assault: 1-3 CP to infiltrate
cloud strike: 1 CP vehicle deep strike

Quicken/Restrain: friendly unit within 18" moves again
Protect: +1 armor save (infantry/bikes only probably)

Fate: guide, doom, fortune, executioner (mws), something that gives fearless, mind war

Ynnari can't use "rules"
Attributes apply to everything including flyers

Reapers: 81 points for 3. launcher was 31 now 22
Shining Spears: down 6 to 18
Avengers: 12 points
banshees: no overwatch, advance and charge, +3" charge, can choose things 15" away to charge
Jain Zar: banshees fight first
war walkers: outflank
warp spiders: deep strike
hawks: assault 4, 13 points
scorpions: cheaper
wraithknight: no real changes
hemlock: now -2 Ld aura and cheaper
nightspinners: cheaper
falcon: 50 points cheaper
storm guardians: unchanged
windriders: 18 points w/ catapults, 28 w/ cannon (possibly didn't realize that catapults cost points)
scatter lasers: 15 points

wl traits:
mark of hunter: warlord can snipe characters
+2 move to wl
alatoic puritanical leader: 6" fearless aura
Ulthwe: command point at start of turn on a 6

Remnants:
Phoenix Gem: when slain, on a 2+ do d3 mortal wounds, if kill something then bearer comes back with 1 wound

Underwheelming Ynnari (without stratagems, warlord traits or relics) for a year while other factions get all the shiny toys!
Useless Wraithknight not going down in points (nor changed to be more powerful)?
Yeeeeah! They messed the two only things I was looking forward to in this released

Ynnari are not underwhelmed, they already was a decent contender, add the points reduction and units upgrades along with some new abilities (Fire prism double shoot, banshee mask changes) and they still got a buff.

Ynnari are still probably the best bet for Wraithguard. Perfectly reasonable to run them with yvraine and a spirit seer in their own detachment. And given that they were previously quite good, and have only gotten better, you'll probably do just fine with them.

**Ghaz**

Galef wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

Did I select the wrong country? I thought NZ was New Zealand. The preorder there is $83, which would put it at $40 US.

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See text in yellow.

**Redemption**

Notice that the codex mention it has 46 datasheets. There's 47 in the index by my count. I'm guessing the Autarch with warp jump generator will be scrapped?

**Cream Tea**

I did not expect the Bonesinger to get rules. That is so nice.

**Lord Perversor**

Redemption wrote:
Notice that the codex mention it has 46 datasheets. There's 47 in the index by my count. I'm guessing the Autarch with warp jump generator will be scrapped?

Or they could had merged some entries like Crimson hunters or Nightspinner and Fireprism, wich is just same tank with different main gun and some other options. Guess will need to wait and see.

Cream Tea wrote:
I did not expect the Bonesinger to get rules. That is so nice.

If it's something as basic as Wraith units within 6" can regain 1 wound on a roll per phase or *revive* a fallen construct i wil be very pleased with it.

**tirnaog**

Me I want the Codex, BoneSinger and that starter box set.

Codex on the ipad.

While we wait is there anyone in here that knows or can point me to a list of Eldar books/Novels.
Finishing up my first WH40K novel, the Sisters of Battle omnibus and would like to start the Eldar ones.
Just cant seem to find a list of them and in what order they should be read.

Thanks!

**Alcibiades**

Fafnir wrote:

...We... we don't talk about Sicarians anymore...

Rerolling 1's increases damage output by about 1/6 (on a unit that can quite easily get an 83% or 97% chance to hit), I really don't get why people think this is bad.

**casvalremdeikun**

Kanluwen wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
I would like the Alaitoc color scheme better if the helmets were white instead of yellow (basically you end up with an entire army of Dire Avengers!).

If only there were variant color schemes...

On it! I accidentally got a box of the snapfit Guardians, gonna paint them up that way. I love Dire Avengers(my favorite aspect by far), having an entire army composed of them effectively would be awesome. If I build onto the army more (the new Start Collecting looks awesome!), I might do just that.

**Niiru**

Ghaz wrote:
Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

Preorders are up... where?

The GW website doesn't seem to have any new Eldar options up for Preorder, the most recent addition is Shadespire sets and Plagueburst Crawlers...

**Lord Perversor**

Niiru wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

Preorders are up... where?

The GW website doesn't seem to have any new Eldar options up for Preorder, the most recent addition is Shadespire sets and Plagueburst Crawlers...

Set the page currency/language to New zealand or Aussie, they get the releases before other timezones

**Niiru**

Lord Perversor wrote:
Niiru wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Alendrel wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Preorders are up. Eldrad is $50 NZ, so about $35 US.

Eh? NZ prices have very consistently been almost exactly twice the US.

Militarum Tempestus are $50 NZ and $35 US.

Preorders are up... where?

The GW website doesn't seem to have any new Eldar options up for Preorder, the most recent addition is Shadespire sets and Plagueburst Crawlers...

Set the page currency/language to New zealand or Aussie, they get the releases before other timezones

Yeh I just found it by looking up New Zealand (just because that other guy earlier said he had found the NZ price).

Silly me looking on the UK store, for a UK based company, thinking they'd update their UK store first.

**Ghaz**

Niiru wrote:
Silly me looking on the UK store, for a UK based company, thinking they'd update their UK store first.

They're an international company based in the UK. They update the NZ store first because of you know, time zones.

**Cream Tea**

New Zealand is already in the future.

I guess New Zealand and Australia need some compensation for those awful prices.