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Hello guys,

I'm back to the game after 20years of a break Aiming for ITC tournaments. Want to build something that easier to play and I won't get totally annihilated while learning the game.

the general tactic will be castling around Guilliman and shooting from distance with devastator doctrine active (-1 to ap with heavy weapons)
While capturing objectives with scouts and helping them to achieve this with Stormtalon Gunships
Instead of Guilliman, I can go for a captain and lieutenant and get another predator vs fast advancing hordes feels like Guilliman will be a better line of defence.

Mobility would be a big issue, maybe I should drop 1 Stormtalon and replace with extra scouts and razorback

let me know if this stands any chances.

PS: intercessors stalker rifles are -3 and 2 dmg each. Each game I played they really did a good job from distance thats why I kinda wanted to exploit this.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [68 PL, 1,298pts] ++
+ HQ [14 PL, 252pts] +

Sergeant Chronus [10 PL, 207pts]
. Predator [8 PL, 177pts]: Predator autocannon [40pts], Storm bolter [2pts], Two Lascannons [50pts]

Techmarine [4 PL, 45pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Servo-arm

+ Troops [20 PL, 356pts] +

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 89pts]: Stalker Bolt Rifle
. 4x Intercessor [68pts]
. Intercessor Sergeant [21pts]: Power sword [4pts]

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 89pts]: Stalker Bolt Rifle
. 4x Intercessor [68pts]
. Intercessor Sergeant [21pts]: Power sword [4pts]

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 89pts]: Stalker Bolt Rifle
. 4x Intercessor [68pts]
. Intercessor Sergeant [21pts]: Power sword [4pts]

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 89pts]: Stalker Bolt Rifle
. 4x Intercessor [68pts]
. Intercessor Sergeant [21pts]: Power sword [4pts]

+ Elites [10 PL, 215pts] +

Aggressor Squad [5 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor [42pts], Aggressor Sergeant [21pts]
. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher [48pts]

Dreadnought [5 PL, 104pts]: Assault cannon [22pts]
. Dreadnought combat weapon w/Storm Bolter [22pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]

+ Heavy Support [8 PL, 147pts] +

Predator [8 PL, 147pts]: Storm bolter [2pts], Twin lascannon [40pts], Two Heavy Bolters [20pts]

+ Flyer [16 PL, 328pts] +

Stormtalon Gunship [8 PL, 164pts]: Twin assault cannon [44pts], Two Heavy Bolters [20pts]

Stormtalon Gunship [8 PL, 164pts]: Twin assault cannon [44pts], Two Heavy Bolters [20pts]


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [21 PL, 352pts] ++

+ HQ [9 PL, 163pts] +

Primaris Librarian [5 PL, 98pts]: Force sword [8pts]

Sergeant Telion [4 PL, 65pts]

+ Troops [12 PL, 189pts] +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 63pts]
. Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle [52pts]: 4x Sniper rifle [8pts]

Scout Squad [4 PL, 63pts]
. Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle [52pts]: 4x Sniper rifle [8pts]

Scout Squad [4 PL, 63pts]
. Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle [52pts]: 4x Sniper rifle [8pts]

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) [18 PL, 350pts] ++

+ Lord of War [18 PL, 350pts] +

Roboute Guilliman [18 PL, 350pts]

++ Total: [107 PL, 2,000pts] ++

Dropping a squad of Intercessors and a dreadnought, getting 3rd predator and turning all 3 predators into Autocannon + lascannon predators opens up kill shot and gives you a really spooky fire base.

The dreadnought seems to bring very little to your list as a whole.

Lifeistorment wrote:
Dropping a squad of Intercessors and a dreadnought, getting 3rd predator and turning all 3 predators into Autocannon + lascannon predators opens up kill shot and gives you a really spooky fire base.

The dreadnought seems to bring very little to your list as a whole.

Read the rules first, before giving useless advice. There is no more killshot in the new SM codex. And preds are among the worst vehicles for SM. A razorback with twin LC is 15 pts. cheaper than a pred with twin LC, both are pretty much identical, the razorback has one less wound, but can carry 6 infantry models.

Yes, sadly they removed the kill shots from the codex :(
@p5freak so if I replace the preds with razorback and get few tactical squads with the extra points this list would be viable in your opinion?

If you're taking tacticals then consider sicarius. CP farming and also get to fight first if within 6" of him

undertherunes wrote:
Yes, sadly they removed the kill shots from the codex :(
@p5freak so if I replace the preds with razorback and get few tactical squads with the extra points this list would be viable in your opinion?

Its an improvement. Intercessors stalker bolt rifles are only AP-3 when the devastator doctrine is active.