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It just doesn't make sense. I mean, I might see it for Drop Pods since those harnessed don't even look like they could fit a regular Marine, much less a Primaris, but that's a model-scale issue, not necessarily a real fluff reason. Those things could easily be adjusted or rules-wise make Primaris count as 2 models for capacity in Rhinos/DPs

And the reverse situation is odd too. Why can the Impulsor/Repulsor tanks only carry Primaris models? Wouldn't it be even easier for regular Marines to fit in those if they were designed to fit Primaris?

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I don't think there is, from what we know of Primaris combat docrine they simply don't use those types of transport.

There's no reason the Imperial Guard or Skitarii couldn't use the rhino chasis either, but they have their own special transport vehicles which only they can enter because thats how the game works.

because Cawl didnt remember to fit Mk X armour with the Complicare Tetris sub-routine that allows vanilla marines to tessellate 10 of them into a Rhino

fluff reason: primaris armour is almost the same size as terminator armour so they physically can't fit in drop pods, rhinos, razorbacks, land rai.........oh.

Everything makes sense except for Land Raiders.

I thought it was pretty obvious, but OK...

Primaris cannot embark into non-Primaris transports and vice versa because $$$$.


OH, a narrative reason... Ummm... The below is probably as good a narrative reason as you'll get.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
because Cawl didnt remember to fit Mk X armour with the Complicare Tetris sub-routine that allows vanilla marines to tessellate 10 of them into a Rhino

 oni wrote:
I thought it was pretty obvious, but OK...

Primaris cannot embark into non-Primaris transports and vice versa because $$$$.

Indeed that is obvious, but I was just wondering if GW put any effort into hand-waving that into the fluff as well. I guess not.

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 Corennus wrote:
fluff reason: primaris armour is almost the same size as terminator armour so they physically can't fit in drop pods, rhinos, razorbacks, land rai.........oh.

Everything makes sense except for Land Raiders.

Primaris are mostly taller and drop pods aren't exactly lacking in head clearance. They could fit a bloody Dread inside a pod so there is zero reason why they couldn't adjust the harness system to be a bit taller. Or even reduce the capacity to 5 if they needed the extra space. Same with Rhinos (although Rhinos are way more cramped).

The real answer is GW is pushing old marine stuff out the door and are making fluff changes to justify this.

They reallllly should be able to have Drop Pods

I'd buy Drop Pods in a heartbeat

I assume it's the same reason that Guardsmen and normal Marines still exist after Primaris.

No. It's a sales gimmick, regardless of ham-fisted justification.

rhinos etc I accept but yeah I really wish Primaris could take droppods.

Going by Dark Imperium (AKA: Please Buy Primaris Marines, The Novel) they don't need drop pods, as they just bring their strike craft into planetary orbit and push the marines out the door.

 insaniak wrote:
Going by Dark Imperium (AKA: Please Buy Primaris Marines, The Novel) they don't need drop pods, as they just bring their strike craft into planetary orbit and push the marines out the door.

Right back to Heinlein where they nicked their Space Marines from in the first place.

 insaniak wrote:
Going by Dark Imperium (AKA: Please Buy Primaris Marines, The Novel) they don't need drop pods, as they just bring their strike craft into planetary orbit and push the marines out the door.

That's only inceptor marines. you know the ones with the giant jetpack on their back?

BrianDavion wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Going by Dark Imperium (AKA: Please Buy Primaris Marines, The Novel) they don't need drop pods, as they just bring their strike craft into planetary orbit and push the marines out the door.

That's only inceptor marines. you know the ones with the giant jetpack on their back?

Belisarian Furnace would kick in when they go splat, whether equipped with gravis jetpack or not.

And apparently rubicon primaris is pretty much failproof after calgar went through it despite the 61.6% failure rate it was supposed to have. So they can make replacements pretty easily because REASONS.

Some Matt Ward level justification.

 skchsan wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Going by Dark Imperium (AKA: Please Buy Primaris Marines, The Novel) they don't need drop pods, as they just bring their strike craft into planetary orbit and push the marines out the door.

That's only inceptor marines. you know the ones with the giant jetpack on their back?

Belisarian Furnace would kick in when they go splat, whether equipped with gravis jetpack or not.

And apparently rubicon primaris is pretty much failproof after calgar went through it despite the 61.6% failure rate it was supposed to have. So they can make replacements pretty easily because REASONS.

Some Matt Ward level justification.

just because we don't hear about the failures doesn't mean they don't exist.

Pretty sure Primaris are just a wee bit too big for a rhino or drop pod. The handwave part only comes into play with the likes of land raiders; if it can fit terminators it should be able to fit primaris.

With the drop-pods & rhinos, is there not an element of the fluff where it is absolutely forbidden & heresy to modify a vehicle because it doesn't have a sanctified blueprint or some such (I'm a bit sketchy with imperium fluff). Perhaps that has something to do with it?

"if we modify the rhino, we can carry the new primaris"

"...but we don't have an ancient blueprint to make this fit primaris..."

"of course not, they're new! you'll need a new bluepri-"

"HERESY!!!!!"

and the question was never asked again...

You can modify vehicles like the Wolves did with the Predator Annihilator. You just have to wait 200 years for approval.

Because Primaris complement the existing marines.

The two forces have different roles, Marines being surgical strike, Primaris full assault. There's a flying primaris transport in Dark Imperium.

Rhino driving license is standard marine only. Maybe?