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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




What do you think of this as a balanced RG force? It does rely on close combat or weight of dice for AT, but otherwise seems pretty solid?...

Old list version:
Spoiler:

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [104 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
**Chapter Selection**: Long-range Marksmen, Raven Guard Successor, Stealthy
Battle-forged CP [3CP]
Detachment CP [12CP]
Relics of the Chapter [-2CP]: 2x Number of extra Relics
Stratagem: Favor of the Ravenspire [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Chapter Master [6 PL, -3CP, 143pts]: Jump Pack, Shadowmaster, Shard of Isstvan, Storm shield, Stratagem: Chapter Master, Stratagem: Master of the Tri-Fold Path, The Imperium's Sword, Thunder hammer, Warlord

Librarian in Phobos Armour [5 PL, 101pts]: 2) Enveloping Darkness, 4) Shadowstep, Camo cloak, Force sword, Reliquary of Gathalamor

Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, -1CP, 70pts]
. Primaris Lieutenant: Ex Tenebris, Master of Ambush, Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

+ Troops +

Infiltrator Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: 4x Infilltrator, Infiltrator Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 113pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle, Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
. 5x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword

Scout Squad [4 PL, 73pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Sniper rifle
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter
. 3x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 3x Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [10 PL, 222pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant
. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Aggressor Squad [5 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant
. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Centurion Assault Squad [8 PL, 156pts]
. Centurion: Hurricane bolter
. . Flamers: 2x Flamer
. Centurion: Hurricane bolter
. . Flamers: 2x Flamer
. Centurion Sergeant: Hurricane bolter
. . Flamers: 2x Flamer

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [6 PL, 131pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, Incendium cannon, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [6 PL, 131pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, Incendium cannon, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber

+ Fast Attack +

Attack Bike Squad [2 PL, 37pts]
. Attack Bike: Heavy bolter, Twin boltgun

Attack Bike Squad [2 PL, 37pts]
. Attack Bike: Heavy bolter, Twin boltgun

Attack Bike Squad [2 PL, 37pts]
. Attack Bike: Heavy bolter, Twin boltgun

+ Heavy Support +

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

++ Total: [104 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++

Idea is fairly standard for new RG, if going first then the Cents can be ambushed up for high pressure along with the Invictors and the Aggressors Infiltrated forwards. If going second, could ambush the Aggressors into a good position while the Cents and 3 man Aggressors deep struck. Long Range Marksmen hopefully keep the Cents and Aggressors relevant even if they can't get a charge off (the +1" advance and charge chapter trait was also very tempting, but I went shooty+stealthy since I wasn't going all in on the charge plan). Captain is a smashcap who can't be overwatched, while the Librarian can also deny overwatch, if necessary. MSU scouting units give good board control.

Realized the 1cp strat used is Token of Brotherhood, not Favor of the Ravenspire, but also I’m thinking to remove that. Ex Tenebris is a very good gun, but I dunno if it’s 2cp good when I already have so many snipers and RG is very pregame strat heavy. I’ll probably downgrade that to a power sword (maybe the burning blade?).


New list version:


++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [103 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Hungry for Battle, Raven Guard Successor, Stealthy

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

Relics of the Chapter [-3CP]: 3x Number of extra Relics

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, -1CP, 143pts]: Jump Pack, Shadowmaster, Shard of Isstvan, Storm shield, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Imperium's Sword, Thunder hammer, Warlord

Chapter Master [6 PL, -2CP, 103pts]: Chainsword, Jump Pack, Storm shield, Stratagem: Chapter Master, Teeth of Terra

Librarian [5 PL, 88pts]: 2) Enveloping Darkness, 3) Null Zone, 4) Shadowstep, Boltgun, Force stave, Tome of Malcador

Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, -1CP, 69pts]
. Primaris Lieutenant: Master of Ambush, Power sword, Reliquary of Gathalamor, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

+ Troops +

Infiltrator Squad [5 PL, 110pts]: 4x Infilltrator, Infiltrator Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor
. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Scout Squad [4 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Combat knife, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. 4x Scout w/Boltgun

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [10 PL, 222pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant
. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Aggressor Squad [10 PL, 185pts]: 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant
. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [6 PL, 136pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [6 PL, 136pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon

+ Fast Attack +

Attack Bike Squad [2 PL, 37pts]
. Attack Bike: Heavy bolter, Twin boltgun

Attack Bike Squad [2 PL, 37pts]
. Attack Bike: Heavy bolter, Twin boltgun

Scout Bike Squad [3 PL, 71pts]
. 2x Scout Biker: 2x Twin boltgun
. Scout Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun

+ Heavy Support +

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
. 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

++ Total: [103 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2019/10/08 04:13:58


 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Hrmm, I keep wanting to get a unit of Van Vets in for some flying thunder hammers if I'm going the melee AT route, but unsure what to cut. The 3 Aggressors and the troop wargear options could go first, but then still need another 50-100pts depending on size and hammer count. I wish I could cut the attack bikes, but then I lose the brigade. Dual battalion requires a 4th HQ which takes back nearly all the points saved on the bikes...
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




I reworked the list some and edited the original post. Still no thematic VanVets, but traded the Cents and some troop wargear for 2 more Aggressors, a Teeth Captain, and upgraded an Attack Bike to Scout Bikes. I also traded Long Range for Hungry for Battle for the more reliable charges.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/10/08 04:15:07


 
   
 
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