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I tried looking online but could not find any post release reviews. How is the new short version rulebook looking? Anyone here at Dakka got their hands on it? Does it have updated rules with the FAQs and the beta rules that have been finalized? Does it included anything extra that the core main book does not? I am rather curious. Is it a or a ?

AFAIK, there are no updated rules or FAQs or anything. It's the core rulebook from 2 years ago but without the fluff section I think. But I don't own the book so I can't say with 100% certainty. GW never touted it as having updated rules either, so...

That's unfortunately the rumour (haven't seen it properly verified). It is indeed a re-print of the rulebook which includes no proper or current revisions...so essentially it's an out-of-date rulebook for a game which is changing every 4-5 months.

Yeah it's a brand new book with a large chunk of invalid/redundant rules not sure the exact percentage but it's a terrible anti consumer product bordering on being a con.

SeanDrake wrote:
Yeah it's a brand new book with a large chunk of invalid/redundant rules not sure the exact percentage but it's a terrible anti consumer product bordering on being a con.

bullet dodged for me then. I had considered this book since I had dropped my BRB on pavement and it is a little beat up. No way in hell am I getting it now.

SeanDrake wrote:
Yeah it's a brand new book with a large chunk of invalid/redundant rules not sure the exact percentage but it's a terrible anti consumer product bordering on being a con.

This isn't funny anymore :(

 Elbows wrote:
That's unfortunately the rumour (haven't seen it properly verified). It is indeed a re-print of the rulebook which includes no proper or current revisions...so essentially it's an out-of-date rulebook for a game which is changing every 4-5 months.

All the confirmation you need for that is how GW avoids answering that like plague. If it had they would be using that as marketing tool and bombard us with "updated and improved!" statements. Not avoid answering one way or another like touching the subject would be lethal.

It's absolute crap, lazy, useless, over expensive and redundant crap at that.

I was hoping like most of you it would have the rules rewritten/updated and include all the missions/content from the Chapter Approveds. I would have shelled out some cash for a nice condensed version of all that, even if it wasn’t new it would have been nice to have it all collected.

Aldran wrote:
I tried looking online but could not find any post release reviews. How is the new short version rulebook looking? Anyone here at Dakka got their hands on it? Does it have updated rules with the FAQs and the beta rules that have been finalized? Does it included anything extra that the core main book does not? I am rather curious. Is it a or a ?

It's literally just the rulebook, but small.

It’s a stinking pile of absolutely worthless garbage. It’s actually offensive.

Quasistellar wrote:
It’s a stinking pile of absolutely worthless garbage. It’s actually offensive.

Especially when you consider side by side with the AoS mini rulesbook...

 The Forgemaster wrote:

Quasistellar wrote:
It’s a stinking pile of absolutely worthless garbage. It’s actually offensive.

Especially when you consider side by side with the AoS mini rulesbook...

This stings, the ONLY reason they made this 40k rulebook was because AoS made their own mini one. Only, AoS actually updated with their FAQs and revisions.

Yep - definitely avoid this one.

I wouldn't even recommend this to someone new to the hobby and doesn't have any books at all. For a mere $14 (AUD) extra you get the full sized BRB with hundreds of pages of lore.

Great concept - terrible execution and pricing. This should be priced at half of what they are asking.

Sad to hear about the 40k Rulebook. I am currently very happy with the AoS rulebook(although I think the Hidden Objectives should have been in it) and was hoping the 40k one would be equally as nice.

To be fair the problem is also the split between normal missions and ITC missions in the community. In AoS the playerbase tends to stick to the AoS missions meaning that the AoS minibook is very handy to keep almost everything in one place.

I think this has me at a new low for how cynical I can be with GW. To release a pure rule book that is useless for playing the game in it's current form has to be the up there with the most greedy/money grab thing GW has done since I started this hobby.

 NurglesR0T wrote:
Yep - definitely avoid this one.

I wouldn't even recommend this to someone new to the hobby and doesn't have any books at all. For a mere $14 (AUD) extra you get the full sized BRB with hundreds of pages of lore.

Great concept - terrible execution and pricing. This should be priced at half of what they are asking.

No, it really shouldn't be at half the price. Without collecting all the errata and bringing the rules up to date it literally shouldn't even exist.

I was hoping like most of you it would have the rules rewritten/updated and include all the missions/content from the Chapter Approveds. I would have shelled out some cash for a nice condensed version of all that,

Yup agreed, having everything updated and in one place, I would have spent a few quid on.
If its just the original v1.0 rules and thats it - fook dat.

I think this is the first thread I've seen on Dakka where everyone is in complete agreement on something. This thread should be stickied, preserved on a ceramite plaque, and sent straight through the window of Rountree's office in Nottingham! OK, maybe not that last part, but we should definitely let them Games-Workshop know that this absolutely garbage behaviour on their part.

Then off to Bugmans bar for pints!