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2019/10/17 17:59:04
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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Quick question about one of the new Iron Hands strategems:
Souls of Iron
Use this Strategem in your opponent's psyhic phase, when an enemy psyker model manifests a psychic power within 24" of an Iron Hands unit from your army (after any Deny the Witch attempt). Roll one D6; on a 4+ that psychic power is resisted.
The wording above seems to say that you need to perform a deny the witch attempt before using the strategem? Is that the case? Or is this more of a permissive wording to indicate that you may do both a deny the witch attempt and this strategem?
Thanks!
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2019/10/17 18:07:44
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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It means you can do both, but can’t do this until after you’ve decided whether to DTW.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2019/10/17 18:10:20
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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But to be clear you may use the strategem with no psyker capable of DTW in your army, correct?
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2019/10/17 18:15:42
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yup!
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2019/10/17 18:23:01
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Awesome, thanks!
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2019/10/18 07:19:41
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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There is a similar IH warlord trait that is explicitly clear that it works on non-psykers. I guess their cold logic and bionic-enhanced physiology give them a chance to dismiss certain psychic attacks.
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2019/10/18 08:21:41
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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*cries in Necron*
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2019/10/18 08:25:58
Subject: Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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*Pats back with a spiked gauntlet.
There there.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/10/18 09:39:38
Subject: Re:Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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Clearly you need to be in the sweet spot between Necrons, who are too robotic, and regular Space Marines, who are not robotic enough 
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2019/10/18 09:40:52
Subject: Re:Does Souls of Iron require a psyker?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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 Bilge Rat wrote:Clearly you need to be in the sweet spot between Necrons, who are too robotic, and regular Space Marines, who are not robotic enough
*points at warpsmith and runs.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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