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2019/10/17 23:11:46
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Been Around the Block
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I feel I am going slightly mad on this one. Here is the rule in question;
Vow of the Beastslayer
"...when resolving an attack made by that model against an enemy unit that contains any models with a wound characteristic of 8 or higher, re-roll a wound roll of 1..."
It clearly states "a wound roll of 1", not all wound rolls of 1. Why does everyone appear to be rerolling all 1s? Has this been clarified by GW? Or am I interpreting this wrongly?
I am starting a chaos knights army and would like to get this right before I settle on my first list.
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2019/10/17 23:22:09
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Attacks are rolled one at a time,,, so there is only ever a single wound roll of one... unless you are fast rolling.... so if someone wants to be a stickler about it, don't fast roll XD.
It doesn't say "a wound roll of 1, once per turn/phase" so I think most people assume it means per attack. which is reasonable assumption considering it does say "when resolving AN attack made by that model ..."
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/10/17 23:30:45
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/10/18 09:37:38
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Been Around the Block
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Cheers. See the BRB identifies attacks that way
Iconoclast double battle battle cannon it is then
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2019/10/18 13:45:43
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You can re-roll all of the wound rolls of 1 you make... you get to re-roll A wound roll of 1 when every you make AN attack..
i.e. one attack at a time, means that attack has a single d6 to roll. if it is a one, you can re roll the single 1. Then move on to the next attack where you can re-roll a 1 because you made AN attack.
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/10/18 15:52:19
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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 Type40 wrote:You can re-roll all of the wound rolls of 1 you make... you get to re-roll A wound roll of 1 when every you make AN attack..
i.e. one attack at a time, means that attack has a single d6 to roll. if it is a one, you can re roll the single 1. Then move on to the next attack where you can re-roll a 1 because you made AN attack.
Not that this doesn’t preclude fast rolling in any way. That’s just a way of doing similar attacks together. They still get to reroll any 1s.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2019/10/18 21:38:33
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 JohnnyHell wrote: Type40 wrote:You can re-roll all of the wound rolls of 1 you make... you get to re-roll A wound roll of 1 when every you make AN attack..
i.e. one attack at a time, means that attack has a single d6 to roll. if it is a one, you can re roll the single 1. Then move on to the next attack where you can re-roll a 1 because you made AN attack.
Not that this doesn’t preclude fast rolling in any way. That’s just a way of doing similar attacks together. They still get to reroll any 1s.
Agreed, but some people can be a bit weird about the fast rolling guidelines, so if I need to slow roll to appease them, sometimes its the easier option then arguing.
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/10/18 22:01:11
Subject: Chaos Knights & Vow of the Beastslayer
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Oh definitely. If they insist on trying a technicality, be technically right and delight in rolling one by one. ;-)
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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