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Can't say I'm not a wee bit excited, even after TLJ.

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Does nothing for me, though I’ll probably still watch it.

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Yup, aside from some slight misgivings that Abrahms is going to try to cram too much stuff into too little movie again, this is looking awesome.

 
   
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Didn't really get any feels from that trailer. I'll go see it, but i'm pretty glad this is finally coming to an end. So maybe we can move on to something more well thought out.

 
   
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Too little, too late. I'll probably end up watching it on red box dvd... eventually... maybe after I watch the most recent Avengers movie. The trailer itself isn't bad but I just can't get excited about it after TFA/TLJ with Luke turned into a murderous Hobo, Han a deadbeat dad, and Leia a zombie Mary Poppins while simultaneously doing nothing interesting or consistent with the new characters. The Mandalorian is about the only thing that stirs a glimmer of hope in my Star Wars fanboy heart at this point. About the only thing that will change my mind would be if amateur fan reviews consistently give it positive reviews (regardless of what the supposed professional reviewers say).

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There was an interesting video I saw a while back talking about the use of leitmotif in Star Wars and the particular themes they were opting to use in their trailers for the sequel movies. The central thesis being that the main fanfare of Star Wars (you know, the one that plays during the opening crawl) is also prominently Luke's personal theme and that they were deliberately avoiding it in these slow bombastic trailer orchestrations for some purpose, sinister or otherwise. Now we have it, complete with overextended brass section and drums, and it's definitely got this uplifting quality to it.

Some quick observations:

-The Tri Fighters from the Force Awakens concept art book have been confirmed.
-We see a Y-Wing shoot a couple down, that old grey mare is still kicking.
-Tightly packed fleet shots remind me of Abrams' Star Trek, hopefully we get an explanation or they spread out.
-Loooots of background ships from other media, looks like we're getting a proper sequel space battle and they're doubling-down on how Rogue One handled theirs

Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how they wrap this up, and what state the galaxy is going to be in afterwards.

   
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 insaniak wrote:
Yup, aside from some slight misgivings that Abrahms is going to try to cram too much stuff into too little movie again, this is looking awesome.


Definitely felt packed. I'm sure there will be internet videos to unpack it, but the saber fight (on the bridge over the roiling ocean) seemed... ponderous. Dunno if they were supposed to be exhausted, or if the fight choreographer wanted something very different from the prequels, but it looked like they were laboriously swinging heavy things, which looks very odd with light sabers.



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Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how they wrap this up, and what state the galaxy is going to be in afterwards.

Hmm. I'm actually utterly disinterested in the state of the galaxy, since none of the new films made any attempt to establish what it was before. ? to ? isn't an interesting progression.

In any case, I'm expecting a RotJ party at the end where they celebrate winning and do none of the work or heavy lifting required to actually fix anything at all. [Head of State is dead doesn't mean the political system falls apart], though obviously that isn't a real consideration here, since the new government died in the first film and it was never a problem, just a random aside.

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Voss wrote:

Definitely felt packed. I'm sure there will be internet videos to unpack it, but the saber fight (on the bridge over the roiling ocean) seemed... ponderous. Dunno if they were supposed to be exhausted, or if the fight choreographer wanted something very different from the prequels, but it looked like they were laboriously swinging heavy things, which looks very odd with light sabers.

Yeah, I took it as them either being exhausted, or trying to balance on a moving surface.

Although 'heavy' sabers would hark back to the original trilogy - Lucas specified that the sabers needed to be wielded two-handed, and when you watch the way Luke, Vader and Obi-Wan use them, they use heavy, deliberate swings. Partly that was just to avoid breaking the props, but it was also intended to convey weight - despite the blade itself not having any weight, lightsabers were supposed to be heavy and take considerable effort and concentration to use well. This had the added benefit of making it look that much more impressive when Vader winds back and hurls his around the room.

The Prequels moved to a much lighter-looking style, with single-handed grips not being uncommon, supposedly to help convey that the Force users of that era were at the height of their power. Although from a practical point of view, it was also quite possibly just because it looked more flashy and by that time they had props that could better handle being whacked against each other, with the 'power' justification just added in to explain that visual shift...

The Sequels seem to have gone for a middle ground, so far. The sabers aren't as ponderous as the OT, but Kylo Ren in particular, while still using a single hand a lot of the time, makes it look like it's hard to swing that thing.

 
   
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I spy The Ghost......

Which is always nice!

Looks like we might be in for a decent space battle as well, something I for one always consider welcome.

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 Thargrim wrote:
Didn't really get any feels from that trailer. I'll go see it, but i'm pretty glad this is finally coming to an end. So maybe we can move on to something more well thought out.


Yeah. Next SW trilogy

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I spy The Ghost......

Which is always nice!

Looks like we might be in for a decent space battle as well, something I for one always consider welcome.


Yep. This trilogy has been lacking in a great space battle so far for sure.

I’m going to watch it for sure. But will pass judgement once I’ve seen the film, wonder what the chances are of coming out of the cinema grinning like a small boy after watching it like I did after Rogue One.
   
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Looking like a retread of Return of the Jedi, but that was an excellent trailer. I like how Rey venturing into the wreakage is a throwback to her introduction in Force Awakens.

Music was pretty good too!

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Looking like a retread of Return of the Jedi...

In what respect? Other than having Palpatine and a (presumably) spaceship battle, I'm not seeing similarities here.

 
   
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 xKillGorex wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I spy The Ghost......

Which is always nice!

Looks like we might be in for a decent space battle as well, something I for one always consider welcome.


Yep. This trilogy has been lacking in a great space battle so far for sure.

I’m going to watch it for sure. But will pass judgement once I’ve seen the film, wonder what the chances are of coming out of the cinema grinning like a small boy after watching it like I did after Rogue One.


To be honest, the only really good space battles to date are Return of the Jedi and Rogue One, both of which for me set the bar.

Yes, ANH has the Death Star attack, but that was too small scale for my tastes, excellent though it is. I needs to see capital ships dukeing it out as well!

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Simply not hyped, I'm afraid. It's not that I don't care about Star Wars stuff any more (Clone Wars and Mandalorian have me hyped as all hell!), but I just have no investment in this trilogy.

One particular comment on the trailer summed it up well for me: "says the saga is ending, but I watched the first two movies of this trilogy, and I have no idea if it's even begun yet!" I simply still don't feel any stakes, any journey for this particular story. And unfortunately the trailer has seemed to just imply that with JJ at the helm, he's just ignoring TLJ and going bigger and bolder.

Ah well. Will still see it anyways.

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It looks ok, but then looks have generally not been the problem

probably not enough to get me to the cinema, but i'll watch it at home when it becomes available

 
   
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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Simply not hyped, I'm afraid. It's not that I don't care about Star Wars stuff any more (Clone Wars and Mandalorian have me hyped as all hell!), but I just have no investment in this trilogy.

One particular comment on the trailer summed it up well for me: "says the saga is ending, but I watched the first two movies of this trilogy, and I have no idea if it's even begun yet!" I simply still don't feel any stakes, any journey for this particular story. And unfortunately the trailer has seemed to just imply that with JJ at the helm, he's just ignoring TLJ and going bigger and bolder.

Ah well. Will still see it anyways.


I think ignoring TLJ isn’t the worst plan in the world for him. After all, he set something up and RJ dumped all over that. He’s just returning the favor and giving this movie a chance. Also, the trailer did actually excite me.

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The fact it's got a lot of ground to cover is what's piqued my interest.

Resurrection of the Resistance/Rebellion, something to do with Palpatine, conclusion of Rey's journey, and, theoretically, defeat of the First Order.

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I was so disappointed with episode 7 I can't bring myself to watch episode 8, let alone this one.

This trailer unfortunately does nothing for me.

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
There was an interesting video I saw a while back talking about the use of leitmotif in Star Wars and the particular themes they were opting to use in their trailers for the sequel movies. The central thesis being that the main fanfare of Star Wars (you know, the one that plays during the opening crawl) is also prominently Luke's personal theme and that they were deliberately avoiding it in these slow bombastic trailer orchestrations for some purpose, sinister or otherwise. Now we have it, complete with overextended brass section and drums, and it's definitely got this uplifting quality to it.


IIRC, they used a remix in the trailer for TFA also, and I wish they'd use them in the actual films. Makes it sound fresher and updated. Obviously some fans would complain, but hopefully those people will stay home for this one anyway. (They won't.)

Anyway, good trailer. Looks fun.


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The fact it's got a lot of ground to cover is what's piqued my interest.

Resurrection of the Resistance/Rebellion, something to do with Palpatine, conclusion of Rey's journey, and, theoretically, defeat of the First Order.


My hope is that more people will walk into this one with an open mind and not worry about how it has to hit these beats and resolve those stories and have that ending.

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Voss wrote:
Hmm. I'm actually utterly disinterested in the state of the galaxy, since none of the new films made any attempt to establish what it was before. ? to ? isn't an interesting progression.

In any case, I'm expecting a RotJ party at the end where they celebrate winning and do none of the work or heavy lifting required to actually fix anything at all. [Head of State is dead doesn't mean the political system falls apart], though obviously that isn't a real consideration here, since the new government died in the first film and it was never a problem, just a random aside.


Obviously. That's not what the movies do.

But by wrapping up the trilogy I suspect Lucasfilm will be free up to expand this era in the expanded universe lore - it naturally becomes easier to introduce new ships and ideas when they're not worried about being retconned by the film.

I'm especially interested for purposes of running games - if the FO is heroically vanquished the galaxy could potentially be left fractured amongst many smaller states with FO military surplus cropping up everywhere - would be great for eote stories.


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 Captain Joystick wrote:
There was an interesting video I saw a while back talking about the use of leitmotif in Star Wars and the particular themes they were opting to use in their trailers for the sequel movies. The central thesis being that the main fanfare of Star Wars (you know, the one that plays during the opening crawl) is also prominently Luke's personal theme and that they were deliberately avoiding it in these slow bombastic trailer orchestrations for some purpose, sinister or otherwise. Now we have it, complete with overextended brass section and drums, and it's definitely got this uplifting quality to it.


IIRC, they used a remix in the trailer for TFA also, and I wish they'd use them in the actual films. Makes it sound fresher and updated. Obviously some fans would complain, but hopefully those people will stay home for this one anyway. (They won't.)


You may be thinking of the Binary Sunsets theme, used prominently during Han's 'It's all true' bit in the second trailer?

Prior to this, I'm pretty sure the only use of the main Star Wars theme was in the very first teaser with the Falcon doing a flip. - Maybe during a couple of title cards?

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
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 Captain Joystick wrote:
There was an interesting video I saw a while back talking about the use of leitmotif in Star Wars and the particular themes they were opting to use in their trailers for the sequel movies. The central thesis being that the main fanfare of Star Wars (you know, the one that plays during the opening crawl) is also prominently Luke's personal theme and that they were deliberately avoiding it in these slow bombastic trailer orchestrations for some purpose, sinister or otherwise. Now we have it, complete with overextended brass section and drums, and it's definitely got this uplifting quality to it.


IIRC, they used a remix in the trailer for TFA also, and I wish they'd use them in the actual films. Makes it sound fresher and updated. Obviously some fans would complain, but hopefully those people will stay home for this one anyway. (They won't.)


You may be thinking of the Binary Sunsets theme, used prominently during Han's 'It's all true' bit in the second trailer?

Prior to this, I'm pretty sure the only use of the main Star Wars theme was in the very first teaser with the Falcon doing a flip. - Maybe during a couple of title cards?


I was talking about the new arrangements in general and not that specific theme. It'll be interesting to see how they handle the music in future films.

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At first I was a bit disappointed with this trailer as it doesn't appear to really reveal anything. But then I realized, "Hey, it doesn't reveal anything" i.e. nothing is spoiled.
Normally, I get so hyped before the movie that I end up not resisting the lure of the dark side and read up on all the plot points before even seeing the movie. I'm not overly bothered by spoilers, but as this is the "finale" of the Saga, I might try to go in a bit more blind than usual so I get more of an experience

And maybe that's what they intended with this trailer since it really seems to do a good job of not really showing anything but generic "yep that's Star Wars" imagery.

Although, I do have 1 speculation. I'll put it in spoilers just in case:
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I think 3PO is going to "die" in this one. Or rather they'll have to turn on his "combat mode" or something like that, but in order to do so, his personality will be lost forever. This would put 3PO's "lifespan" perfectly within Ep1-9 as we see him "activated" in Ep1 and may see him finally "deactivated" in Ep9.


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 gorgon wrote:
I was talking about the new arrangements in general and not that specific theme. It'll be interesting to see how they handle the music in future films.


Oh, I see.

Yeah, the trailer arrangements of the Williams themes have been very on point. I'd love for them to be collected in an album.

   
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 insaniak wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Looking like a retread of Return of the Jedi...

In what respect? Other than having Palpatine and a (presumably) spaceship battle, I'm not seeing similarities here.


Desert world->Forest world->Deathstar battle->Emperor->Light'n'darkside double act->Lando in the falcon...

That said, I've just watched it again and there is a B-Wing in there! It would be super cool if they blow up a Star Destroyer...

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Long story short my guess is that the Death Star part is only at the mid point and in the end Rey and Kylo will have to team up to defeat the Emperor.

I did like the shot Kylo coming through the waves looking all emo and dark sidey angry and stuff.

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I'll admit, the "always" got me.

Looks good. I do fear its going to have the same time crunch created by VIII taking place immediately after VII the way it did. The ending of VIII left me wanting some time between it and IX for an oppressive new status quo to catch up on, but it feels like it will pivot pretty quickly into the finale. I'd rather not the whole trilogy take place over a weekend.

Hoping they use the Emperor well. The bits of dialog here sound interesting but I fear JJ will mostly add "something, something Dark Side" over something meaningful to the idea. Snoke's use of mind reading and future sight to dominate Kylo in the last one is the first time I've really seen the Dark Side presented better than "angry and throws lightning". I'd like to see more along those lines.
   
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Watching the newest trailer, it looks even more like another Marvel Avengers movie with a star wars texture pack slapped over the top, which isn't really what I'm looking for. None of the story hook stuff is doing anything for me, the characters I had emotional investment in have been shown off in unsatisfactory ways already, and I just am not interested in any of the new ones they have introduced.

My inner 10 year old *wants* to be excited about this, but it just isn't hitting the spot.

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