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Made in us
Sinister Chaos Marine





New Hampshire


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [23 PL, 8CP, 425pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: Alpha Legion

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 89pts]: Combi-plasma, Mark of Nurgle, Power maul

Sorcerer [6 PL, 88pts]: Bolt pistol, Force stave, No Chaos Mark

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 86pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Combi-plasma
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Reaper chaincannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 86pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Combi-plasma
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Reaper chaincannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 76pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Combi-plasma
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Heavy bolter

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [64 PL, , 1,151pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [1CP]

Legion: Alpha Legion

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Devastation Battery

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 165pts]: Malefic talon, Warptime, Wings
. Nurgle

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [10 PL, 169pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Power fist, Reaper autocannon

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [7 PL, 171pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Plasma gun
. 2x Havoc w/ lascannon: 2x Lascannon
. 2x Havoc w/ missile launcher: 2x Missile launcher

Havocs [7 PL, 151pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Plasma gun
. Havoc w/ autocannon: Autocannon
. 3x Havoc w/ reaper chaincannon: 3x Reaper chaincannon

Obliterators [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, 2x Obliterator

Obliterators [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, 2x Obliterator

Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]: No Chaos Mark

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [30 PL, 5CP, 424pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dark Disciples [1 PL, 10pts]: 2x Dark Disciple

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: Alpha Legion

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 102pts]: Bolt pistol, No Chaos Mark, Power fist

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 72pts]: No Chaos Mark

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. 10x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. 10x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. 10x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

++ Total: [117 PL, 13CP, 2,000pts] ++

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Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





I don't get the Powerfists on the terminators.

i'd also form a 3 obliterator unit and a 1 obliterator unit instead..

Mixed cultsts do not really perform, go for a big melee blob instead, that way you get atleast a potential tarpit.


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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Sinister Chaos Marine





New Hampshire

Not Online!!! wrote:
I don't get the Powerfists on the terminators.

i'd also form a 3 obliterator unit and a 1 obliterator unit instead..

Mixed cultsts do not really perform, go for a big melee blob instead, that way you get atleast a potential tarpit.



Thanks for the advice! My thought on the cultists at first was to possibly get shooting or melee out of them (plus they come WYSIWYG split; bummer) but thinking about it more the autogun shots don’t do much.

Why 3:1 oblit split?

As for the Power Fists, my thought was to have them DS with a jump pack lord. Is there a better melee load out for them?
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





Obliterators, due to getting more use through cacophony and votwl.

Terminators sadly don't do very well in melee, also chainaxe is more then enough , their strength atm is shooting due to malicious volleys. You want them either as cheap as possible or with combiplas and reroll.

The cultists job is to generate cp and sit somewhere, the melee blob suggestion is more tide of traitors into Charge range, however overall i'd skip them (melee cultists ) entirely.

Get instead the full reaper loadout.
Also on the csm squad with heavy bolter, get an AC instead.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Sinister Chaos Marine





New Hampshire

Not Online!!! wrote:
Obliterators, due to getting more use through cacophony and votwl.

Terminators sadly don't do very well in melee, also chainaxe is more then enough , their strength atm is shooting due to malicious volleys. You want them either as cheap as possible or with combiplas and reroll.

The cultists job is to generate cp and sit somewhere, the melee blob suggestion is more tide of traitors into Charge range, however overall i'd skip them (melee cultists ) entirely.

Get instead the full reaper loadout.
Also on the csm squad with heavy bolter, get an AC instead.


Thanks! makes sense about the Terminators. Looks like I'll be getting more Chain Axes and Reapers
   
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