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2020/03/03 22:17:28
Subject: What’s missing?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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What is the 1 thing that exists in lore/cannon/setting that you think is missing from the table top. It what would you change but what would you take from the text and turn into plastic?
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2020/03/03 22:37:31
Subject: What’s missing?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The variety of Chaos. Chaos demons should be far more varied in the lore and Tzeentch literally changes as you look at it. There are obvious reasons why this isn't practical for plastic but I'd love more demon variety.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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2020/03/04 00:43:40
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Fixture of Dakka
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You give me the power & my Squat biker gangs will ride again!
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2020/03/04 00:47:13
Subject: What’s missing?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Exodites! Especially since GW can't stop teasing us with dropping lore references to them every time they do a major Eldar article. It's like they enjoy teasing us!
I know technically you could make your own with Seraphon kits and Eldar - but that would likely run two to three times the price for each model to convert to have enough parts.
At least Squats, once they died off, were kept quiet and not teased at players until GW started making a few for Necromunda.
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2020/03/04 00:59:21
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Dark Mechanicus. Give me some warped twisted daemonic cybernetic insanity please.
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2020/03/04 01:05:01
Subject: What’s missing?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Annandale, VA
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Exodites, Dark Mechanicus, the more feral Skitarii in Titanicus, GSC of flavors other than miner uprisings, Guard regiments other than Cadians (in particular, the Arkhan Confederates from Fire Caste), mercenaries, and Lost & The Damned / Renegades & Heretics.
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2020/03/04 01:36:28
Subject: What’s missing?
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Fixture of Dakka
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How do you get a feral Skitarii?
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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2020/03/04 01:50:48
Subject: What’s missing?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I want my Dark Eldar characters back; gimme Vect, Kheradruahk, Malys, Sathonix and Sliscuss.
If Marines can have Chaper Masters/ Primarchs, SOB should have the Abbess models for their convents. I'd also like an SoB super heavy and flier- if we only get one I'd prefer a transport, but a transport and a fighter would be nice.
SoS need 1 unit minimum for HQ [I know we got Aleya, but we need a stand alone generic HQ], fast attack, heavy support, and I'd like 40k rules for the Acquisitor.
An Imperial Agents Dex.
Kroot as a playable faction.
I second the vote for Exodites and raise you Corsairs.
And if we're talking 40k universe rather than just 40k game, I'd like to see Battlefleet Gothic make a return.
I know you said ONE thing, but sorry, I couldn't contain myself.
PS- Noise Marine Dreadnaught?
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2020/03/04 01:52:32
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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A Master of Skitarii
Who doesn't want a Skitarii HQ? Honestly I'd love to see this with the future Admech wave but I doubt we'll see it
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2020/03/04 02:30:17
Subject: What’s missing?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Annandale, VA
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The Skitarii as depicted in Abnett's Titanicus, before the model range was introduced, are basically roided-up gene-modded techno-barbarians, carrying surgically-integrated weapons and wearing animal skins and teeth as decoration. Here's a piece of fanart.
I always liked that imagery and would love to see it return at some point.
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2020/03/04 02:36:51
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Silver Towers
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2020/03/04 02:38:50
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Savannah
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If it's anything at all, then sign me up for that sweet, sweet BFG hype train.
If we're talking 40k specifically, then access to a proper Dread-Waagh! again. I've got a lot of Dreads and Kans kicking around that would love a proper outing.
If this is just a single unit, then probably a redone Stompa (or at least some relevant rules), just so I don't have to sigh quite so hard when I think about taking mine for a spin. Heck, I'd even take another FW misprint that knocks 300 pts off it (not that I think it'd be good in that situation, but it might not cripple you to take one).
Or a melee carnifex that's actually a threat. That'd be nice to have again.
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2020/03/04 05:33:39
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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fraser1191 wrote:A Master of Skitarii
Who doesn't want a Skitarii HQ? Honestly I'd love to see this with the future Admech wave but I doubt we'll see it
The 30k unit's called an Axiarch, but he's a Secutarii HQ so a normal Skitarii HQ might not have the exact same title.
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2020/03/04 05:52:52
Subject: What’s missing?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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catbarf wrote:The Skitarii as depicted in Abnett's Titanicus, before the model range was introduced, are basically roided-up gene-modded techno-barbarians, carrying surgically-integrated weapons and wearing animal skins and teeth as decoration. Here's a piece of fanart.
I always liked that imagery and would love to see it return at some point.
I literally made a thread about this depiction in the 40k Background forum. I'm playing with the idea of building this army. Pelicanforce posted some great third party models that I could convert and use as counts-as Breachers.
Here's how Abnett described the Skitarii commander: He was resplendent in hawked threat-armor, his feather edged cloak whipping out behind him. Ivory chevrons were inlaid on either side of the Icon Mechanicus on his blood gold breastplate. A dappled panther pelt dressed his massive shoulders over the feathered cape, and tusk spikes rose from the wings of the crimson steel half-mask that framed the hololithic yellow slits of his eyes. He had raised the iridescent fan of quilled skin around the back of his skull to accentuate his menace.
Mind you, he's wearing a half-mask instead of a helmet because he uses his jaw to bite people to death. That fan art is great for an infantry Skitarii, but it's those insane little details like the halo made of his own flesh that are quintessentially 40k. AnomanderRake wrote: fraser1191 wrote:Who doesn't want a Skitarii HQ? Honestly I'd love to see this with the future Admech wave but I doubt we'll see it
The 30k unit's called an Axiarch, but he's a Secutarii HQ so a normal Skitarii HQ might not have the exact same title.
The Skitarii in the novel are specifically Titan Legion Invicta's infantry, which are now called Secutarii. I'm sure the Axiarch is a reference to this particular character.
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2020/03/04 06:10:53
Subject: What’s missing?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Feral Orks and boarboyz. The models are there, but they're AoS only for some reason.
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2020/03/04 09:20:55
Subject: What’s missing?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sgt. Cortez wrote:Feral Orks and boarboyz. The models are there, but they're AoS only for some reason.
I’m pretty sure in 2ed I had a Orks riding cybernetic boars why has that gone???? Automatically Appended Next Post:
What would these do on the table top? Automatically Appended Next Post: pm713 wrote:The variety of Chaos. Chaos demons should be far more varied in the lore and Tzeentch literally changes as you look at it. There are obvious reasons why this isn't practical for plastic but I'd love more demon variety.
100% and cultist armies
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2020/03/04 09:31:07
Subject: What’s missing?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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100% and cultist armies
that is less of an issue of not existing (thanks FW) but more of an issue of having no rules support whatsoever and even beieng constantly ignored in CA (thanks GW and FW) beeing completely misshandled since the death of bleigh and internal politikiing taking preference then instead propper internal communication between the rules teams writers above the actual designing of the rules it seems.
But yes, overall with the ooping of R&H upgrade kits and the limited release of Traitor guard and buddies from BSF one could assume GW is cooking something up.
or just trolling us.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2020/03/04 09:35:54
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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How about some actual characters for the non cult legions? I want my Zso Sahaal damnit ! (With Mita Ashyn as well please)?
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2020/03/04 19:27:16
Subject: What’s missing?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Here I was expecting just a general a wish-listing thread and I was all ready to say "A proper melee-focused Inceptor unit (maybe twin Lightning Claws with a single Pistol 3 like the Grav Captain) and an Inceptor Captain to match, and then no new loyalist Marine releases until 2022." but that's not something that exists in the lore.
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2020/03/04 20:16:58
Subject: What’s missing?
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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I'm probably the only space Wolf player who would want this but I want to be able to take a HQ choice that's a werewolf like Redmaw
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2020/03/04 20:46:19
Subject: What’s missing?
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Fixture of Dakka
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interceptor pack suit GK character of some sort, also some sort of cheap chaff unit. I was told that once, GK had access to troops that cost models in single digits, and servo skulls.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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2020/03/05 00:39:30
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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More daemon engines like the soul grinder that can fully sync with pure daemon armies. What I would really like to see would be daemon TEQ's and MEQ's that have ranged weapons. And I don't mean like the peashooters given to beastmen and tzaangors, or the eight-inch ranged weapons of the infernal rapturess, two of the bloodthirsters, Skarbrand and the gorehounds, but stuff compatible on par with bolters and heavier weapons. They don't have to actually be bolters/plasma weapons/lascannons etc., as I would love to see stuff like hellish firearms, similar to how tryranids have bio-weapons, but they should be on par, maybe with a few of them having quirks and abilities thrown in to make them unique. And maybe these units don't have to all be locked into a specific god, but can choose which mark they want (daemon princes should be allowed to be undivided if they want). There are the furies, but those are pretty mediocre. You know that you want to see something like this in 40k:
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2020/03/05 00:52:16
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Anybody mention Nostroman chainglaives? Kai guns? Boarding shields? Is there a reason the legions stopped using those things?
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2020/03/05 00:59:40
Subject: Re:What’s missing?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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ArcaneHorror wrote:More daemon engines like the soul grinder that can fully sync with pure daemon armies. What I would really like to see would be daemon TEQ's and MEQ's that have ranged weapons. And I don't mean like the peashooters given to beastmen and tzaangors, or the eight-inch ranged weapons of the infernal rapturess, two of the bloodthirsters, Skarbrand and the gorehounds, but stuff compatible on par with bolters and heavier weapons. They don't have to actually be bolters/plasma weapons/lascannons etc., as I would love to see stuff like hellish firearms, similar to how tryranids have bio-weapons, but they should be on par, maybe with a few of them having quirks and abilities thrown in to make them unique. And maybe these units don't have to all be locked into a specific god, but can choose which mark they want (daemon princes should be allowed to be undivided if they want). There are the furies, but those are pretty mediocre. You know that you want to see something like this in 40k:
The unpopular/unwanted answer is Daemons already have MEQs and TEQs. They're Chaos Space Marines and Chaos Terminators. But I know what you meant. I just don't see them being much of a thing. Regardless it it was the Sci-fi (which is still Sci-Fantasy) or Fantasy version of a GW game, that niche was filled with Chaos-charged mortals. With Fantasy it was basically Warriors and Knights. I agree that Daemons could use more units. I just think GW see those roles already filled via mortal allies. That doesn't help someone that wants a mono-god daemon army though.
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2020/03/05 01:32:42
Subject: What’s missing?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Chaos guard/admech really need to be a proper army in plastic. The amount of books, games, and general lore that include them makes it absolutely ridiculous that all we see are chaos marines and daemons, which in the lore are a hilariously small part of chaos that the average soldier would face, Imperial or otherwise. Yeah we get zombies and cultists, but they're usually a small part of an army these days, when in reality there would be thousands for each csm on a battlefield.
It wouldn't even be that hard, just make a chaos guard upgrade sprue a la genestealer cults, throw in some daemon engine units from the CSM codex, bread and butter guard tanks, the basic troop daemon units that could be summoned, and the stuff from Blackstone fortress like the pyskers, chaos commissar, and the mutated ogryn. Plus a chaos darkmech HQ, something like the arco flagellants, and maybe something like a chaos version of a priest and you'd have a really cool army good to go.
If that's off the cards, at least give us Hrud, those would be cool to see, given we always hear of these crazy hrud migrations but we never really saw them in model form.
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
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2020/03/05 02:45:42
Subject: What’s missing?
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Fixture of Dakka
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All the optional wargear options for all characters and units that GW took away b.c they don't understand the difference between trademark and copywrite is. And my Corsairs army back.
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2020/03/05 03:43:46
Subject: What’s missing?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Exodites seem like the most obvious answer, but really I want a fully fledged Inquisitor + Retinue kit.
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2020/03/05 11:05:12
Subject: What’s missing?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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MrMoustaffa wrote:Chaos guard/admech really need to be a proper army in plastic. The amount of books, games, and general lore that include them makes it absolutely ridiculous that all we see are chaos marines and daemons, which in the lore are a hilariously small part of chaos that the average soldier would face, Imperial or otherwise. Yeah we get zombies and cultists, but they're usually a small part of an army these days, when in reality there would be thousands for each csm on a battlefield.
It wouldn't even be that hard, just make a chaos guard upgrade sprue a la genestealer cults, throw in some daemon engine units from the CSM codex, bread and butter guard tanks, the basic troop daemon units that could be summoned, and the stuff from Blackstone fortress like the pyskers, chaos commissar, and the mutated ogryn. Plus a chaos darkmech HQ, something like the arco flagellants, and maybe something like a chaos version of a priest and you'd have a really cool army good to go.
If that's off the cards, at least give us Hrud, those would be cool to see, given we always hear of these crazy hrud migrations but we never really saw them in model form.
Again that army existed, until recently GW and FW got a sever case off polticking and gak to the brain.....
Also could we please in general get an update to the fw lists before new factions?
Like Corsairs, DKoK, the aftermentioned R&H army list.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2020/03/05 12:07:06
Subject: What’s missing?
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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A non-imperial and non-chaos aligned human faction. A minor Empire like the interex
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Astra Milit..*blam* Astra Milliwhat, heretic? |
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2020/03/05 12:16:39
Subject: What’s missing?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Wazzdakka Gutsmek
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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