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With the Valerian and Co. stuff getting released, it's looking like all the Custodes are getting rebranding. Do we think that all the FW stuff will be included in the new book that's possibly coming out for it?
   
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 chimeara wrote:
With the Valerian and Co. stuff getting released, it's looking like all the Custodes are getting rebranding. Do we think that all the FW stuff will be included in the new book that's possibly coming out for it?


Well, best case scenario for me is that we get some love in psykic awakening and we wont be just some minor footnote in someone elses book. I am talking chapter tactics for the different shield hosts, stratagems, relics etc and especially including sisters into custodes for proper talons with a hq other than aleya and strats for them aswell.

Worst case scenario is we get valerian and aleya and rules that we can include sisters of silence into our lists and thats it.

I won't get my hopes up that we will see any forgeworld models like the telemon with updated rules in an upcoming GW book for psykic awakening or otherwise. I would hope to be proven wrong on this one, but I think it wont be so.
   
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 chimeara wrote:
With the Valerian and Co. stuff getting released, it's looking like all the Custodes are getting rebranding. Do we think that all the FW stuff will be included in the new book that's possibly coming out for it?

In a theoretical Codex: Talons of the Emperor? Not unless GW make a big change in policy.

Do I think we'll see Custodes material (and SoS material, for that matter) in whatever the new FW books are that the GW Design Studio are working on? Absolutely.

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GW won't incklude forgeworld stuff in the codex. that you can count on.

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Evens or better bet: Custodes get a GW version of all the FW stuff in one book, with SoS listed under a rule that allows them in their own detachment.

Snake eyes: We get a taste of the sweet hot nerf bat to the knees and everything goes up in points to match FW power.

Straight 7's homey: We get a psyker unit, or some form of psy abilitys that give us + to attacks, strength, or shooting. Everything goes down in points, and GW gives away free Telemon Dreads with each new book.
   
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 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Evens or better bet: Custodes get a GW version of all the FW stuff in one book, with SoS listed under a rule that allows them in their own detachment.

Snake eyes: We get a taste of the sweet hot nerf bat to the knees and everything goes up in points to match FW power.

Straight 7's homey: We get a psyker unit, or some form of psy abilitys that give us + to attacks, strength, or shooting. Everything goes down in points, and GW gives away free Telemon Dreads with each new book.



umm no, won;'t happen.

the most likely bet is that GW won't give custodes any new units. however we'll get talons of the emperor mods that allow us to take sisters of silence. most likely BTW this will be a form of seperate detachment bonus (so if we take just custodes we get a 4++ invul, if we take a "talons" force we get something differant)

we'll get some new strats, ayla and valarian will be republished in the book, and maybe if custodes are lucky they'll get a unique new sos HQ

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I'd just hope for some price cuts. With FW available you can easily do a Brigade if things were just cheaper.

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Not with this book, but down the line I'm very much expecting plastic grav tanks

   
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I'd be happy to see some FW models transition to mainline GW plastic kits, there's just tons of cool stuff in the codex/wiki that could be made into models, and with Adepticon coming up I guess we can just hope for the best.


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Sisters of silence being merged seems given with GW's leaks.

FW units are never going to be part of codex. Custodes aren't special snowflakes who get that when others don't. They are going to have rules for FW units in FW books just like everybody else.

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tneva82 wrote:
Sisters of silence being merged seems given with GW's leaks.

FW units are never going to be part of codex. Custodes aren't special snowflakes who get that when others don't. They are going to have rules for FW units in FW books just like everybody else.


I think the only FW unit thats become a GW plastic I can recall was the contemptor dread

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BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Sisters of silence being merged seems given with GW's leaks.

FW units are never going to be part of codex. Custodes aren't special snowflakes who get that when others don't. They are going to have rules for FW units in FW books just like everybody else.


I think the only FW unit thats become a GW plastic I can recall was the contemptor dread


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On the topic though, I think there will be the merger, because it always should have been Talons. I will be very surprised if anything gets directly ported for the Talons.
   
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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Sisters of silence being merged seems given with GW's leaks.

FW units are never going to be part of codex. Custodes aren't special snowflakes who get that when others don't. They are going to have rules for FW units in FW books just like everybody else.


I think the only FW unit thats become a GW plastic I can recall was the contemptor dread


Baneblade and Variants, Valkyrie, Leman Russ variants.


true, although those where all AGES ago. I suppose you can also include the horus heresy armor types as well. so GW's willing to do it, but it's certainly not common

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Let's not forget the Tau got the Skyray, and the Piranha. Also the Guard got the Hydra and the Manticore. Also the Tyranids got the Mawlock. If GW were to ever plastic produce FW vehicles again I could see the Custodes tanks getting a look at. You could easily put a Caladius on as few sprues as a Leman Russ. Left/Right halves for each engine, Top/bottom hull, weapons, and various doodads and accessories.

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BrianDavion wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Evens or better bet: Custodes get a GW version of all the FW stuff in one book, with SoS listed under a rule that allows them in their own detachment.

Snake eyes: We get a taste of the sweet hot nerf bat to the knees and everything goes up in points to match FW power.

Straight 7's homey: We get a psyker unit, or some form of psy abilitys that give us + to attacks, strength, or shooting. Everything goes down in points, and GW gives away free Telemon Dreads with each new book.



umm no, won;'t happen.

the most likely bet is that GW won't give custodes any new units. however we'll get talons of the emperor mods that allow us to take sisters of silence. most likely BTW this will be a form of seperate detachment bonus (so if we take just custodes we get a 4++ invul, if we take a "talons" force we get something differant)

we'll get some new strats, ayla and valarian will be republished in the book, and maybe if custodes are lucky they'll get a unique new sos HQ


Me thinks you don't know how Craps are played. Straight 7s is 4 7s in a row. Statistically impossible, ala GW getting their head out of their butt and giving Custodes some love other than a Sos gak model and an even shittier Shield captain model, that is statistically inferior to his counterparts. So yeah, I didn't mean that was going to happen, but if the statistically impossible did happen, that's what it might look like. Get it?

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even if GW did want to give Custodes some "real love" they're no more likely to get a psyker unit then Necrons are.

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What about the possability of other types of Dreads coming to Custodes? If for instance the Custodes can put a warrior in a Venerable, why not a Redemptor? Also, Custodes need a vehicle other than a BS landraider. I see some form of GW rules bending with FGLTC or giving us a Upgunned Repulsor?
   
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 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
What about the possability of other types of Dreads coming to Custodes? If for instance the Custodes can put a warrior in a Venerable, why not a Redemptor? Also, Custodes need a vehicle other than a BS landraider. I see some form of GW rules bending with FGLTC or giving us a Upgunned Repulsor?

That’d have to be some piece of master-work Redemptor, considering if Redemptors go too ham, they burn out the marine inside.

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 Apple Peel wrote:
 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
What about the possability of other types of Dreads coming to Custodes? If for instance the Custodes can put a warrior in a Venerable, why not a Redemptor? Also, Custodes need a vehicle other than a BS landraider. I see some form of GW rules bending with FGLTC or giving us a Upgunned Repulsor?

That’d have to be some piece of master-work Redemptor, considering if Redemptors go too ham, they burn out the marine inside.


"while these dreadnoughts burn out Marines, the synapses of Custodes has proven to be made of tougher stuff allowing them to be interred, relatively safely in a redemptor dreadnought"

see doable. although I'd rather custodes get their own stuff rather then just get more marine stuff painted gold

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I love that they went from skimmers to rhinos and land raiders only for marines to go for more skimmers than they had in the crusades...
   
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The_Real_Chris wrote:
I love that they went from skimmers to rhinos and land raiders only for marines to go for more skimmers than they had in the crusades...
A talons 'grav rhino' conversion kit for the impulsor perhaps.
   
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A.T. wrote:
The_Real_Chris wrote:
I love that they went from skimmers to rhinos and land raiders only for marines to go for more skimmers than they had in the crusades...
A talons 'grav rhino' conversion kit for the impulsor perhaps.


Custodes having access to a fast, open-topped skimmer would improve their standing quite a bit. They aren't a large squad army, and one of their major shortcomings is getting infantry to where they need to be and redeploying to enemy threats. A fast, open topped skimmer would make them almost OP.
   
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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Sisters of silence being merged seems given with GW's leaks.

FW units are never going to be part of codex. Custodes aren't special snowflakes who get that when others don't. They are going to have rules for FW units in FW books just like everybody else.


I think the only FW unit thats become a GW plastic I can recall was the contemptor dread


Baneblade and Variants, Valkyrie, Leman Russ variants.



On the topic though, I think there will be the merger, because it always should have been Talons. I will be very surprised if anything gets directly ported for the Talons.


I mean, it is kind of the only direction with which to expand custodes at this point.

I can't say I'm exactly SURPRISED that SOS are still 5 plastic models and custodes have been expanded as much as they have been, but I'd like to see them merged and the SOS expanded to make them more of a TAC force.
   
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I suspect that GW was going to push and expand the Custode army until the Primaris “rebranding” occurred. With a method to revise the entire SM line, I suspect that Custodes will be ignored and forgotten - until GW has cornered themselves with no more ways to expand the Primaris and/or Chaos lines.

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To be fair here... Custodes have had a significant (well, significant by the non-Marine definition) release in 8th edition. Yeah, they're a mediocre army with heavy reliance on FW stuff that GW balances questionably. ...so, they're in the same boat as most other pre-PA armies in 8th? And significantly better off than, say, Harlequins?? I guess I can't begrudge a small army more releases, but I say wait for PA and see what happens. There are a lot of other armies in front of Custodes in terms of needing new models, and we know they'll be getting new rules soon.

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