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Just figured I'd start this thread as I would hate to see War of the Spider get derailed with off-topic threads. I know we don't know the exact name of this book, but we know it has Pariah in it.

So do we feel that this book will contain all of the remaining factions? Necrons, Deathwatch, Sisters, harlequins? Or do we think just a couple of them and we will see one more book?

I did notice that on the Psychic Awakening page map, there is a place hold with a skull that reads "psychic anomaly detected", has that always been there?

So it really could come down to Necron Pariahs (I wonder if we'll get more of a hint on this in War of the Spider when they talk about Culexus assassins), in which case I would certainly expect Deathwatch to be present.

Or it could refer to the Harlequin character "The Pariah" escorting Ephrael Stern, who both appeared in the first PA book "Phoenix Rising". To give more credence to this, the entire series was started with a video of a Harlequin Shadowseer talking about the upcoming events, and it was a Shadowseer that dispatched the Pariah to escort Ephrael Stern back to the Black Library. In Phoenix Rising, Stern and the Pariah talked about a hidden foe that would turn the stars and souls black. This to me sounds very much like the Necrons, and what they have been trying to do with Blackstone.

Anyway, I do find this book to be more interesting than the next 2 we are waiting for.

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Turning stars and souls black sounds like it would have something to do with the Pariah gene and psychic blanks, a psychic deadening as opposed to awakening, if you will.

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My guess is that it will cover the 4 remaining factions as well as reprint Inquisition since that would cover the last of the White Dwarf Codexes and there isn't a readily available source for their rules.

Sisters just came out, so probably don't need more than a few pages for custom orders and some strategems.

If the Deathwatch part requires a bunch of datasheets to be printed, it's possible there would be another book to stretch things out (probably bringing Harlequins with them judging by the title of this one).
   
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Maybe its about Jurgen

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It could be a combination of all of the above. Necron Pariahs were honestly the first thing I thought of when it came to what Necrons could/should get in their PA release, and the Harlequin Pariah fluff does have hints that it could tie in very well also.
   
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I said it on the other thread and I'll say it again here. I think the silent king is going to get a model since he got a bit of an article in WD a few months back and i reckon the title is actually a reference to him, since he has been an outcast from Necron society since before the great sleep and still is. We could see Pariahs themselves get a revamp too, which i think would be a pretty cool as well.
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
Maybe its about Jurgen

But you can't have Jurgen without the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM and we all know if the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM came to the tabletop, he would just have to be too powerful to use outside of apocalypse. I mean, a primarch in regular 40k, sure. Ciaphias Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM himself? No freaking way!!

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If I had to guess it would most likely be necrons vs harlequins. Probably.

   
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The main lense for the entire universe is from the imperiums perspective, it would be unlikely that that last book wouldn't focus on the imperium. As much as I'd like it to be Necron, I am betting it is much more likely it wraps up with the characters it started with in the original video.

Either way IMO the entire PA was a major dud for me and added hardly any decent lore but loads more bloat. I really wish they would focus these events on scenarios and ways to play rather then how to build your army on paper. Each book basically just gets boiled down to what busted rule did what faction get. Would have been cool if they released escalation rules for playing in a league and each book added custom missions or advancement for your warlord.

   
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Right behind you.

Necrons, Harlequins, and Deathwatch will be the only remaining factions after Engine War and War of the Spider.

Will there probably be an Imperium lean to the book? Sure. It's not like Necron worlds can't have an Imperial presence after all.

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You forgot the Sisters of Battle there, Kan.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Necrons, Harlequins, and Deathwatch will be the only remaining factions after Engine War and War of the Spider.

Will there probably be an Imperium lean to the book? Sure. It's not like Necron worlds can't have an Imperial presence after all.

Sisters of Battle as well who have some interesting history with Necrons.

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Right behind you.

 Dysartes wrote:
You forgot the Sisters of Battle there, Kan.

I know. I'm still not sure if we'll see something for them, as there were reports that the army pack had "Faith and Fury" tags for the box in some instances.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
You forgot the Sisters of Battle there, Kan.

I know. I'm still not sure if we'll see something for them, as there were reports that the army pack had "Faith and Fury" tags for the box in some instances.


GW has already confirmed that PA rules for Sisters are still forthcoming.
   
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 Asmodai wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
You forgot the Sisters of Battle there, Kan.

I know. I'm still not sure if we'll see something for them, as there were reports that the army pack had "Faith and Fury" tags for the box in some instances.


GW has already confirmed that PA rules for Sisters are still forthcoming.


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I wouldn’t expect sisters rules in a PA book, myself. On Parish - I agree with OP - it seems by far the most interesting of the future releases. I just hope there’s decent model releases and updates with it. Excluding Necrons, the other factions are relatively small in my mind.
   
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Sisters line is too new to really add anything to this release. So with that being said, Ephrael Stern almost seems like a shoe in, sine it's a character and not really a separate full unit or rules expansion.
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
Sisters line is too new to really add anything to this release. So with that being said, Ephrael Stern almost seems like a shoe in, sine it's a character and not really a separate full unit or rules expansion.


Stern and maybe a getting started box containing the sprues from the limited box set?
   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I wouldn’t expect sisters rules in a PA book, myself.
GW have stated they're getting PA rules.

   
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 bullyboy wrote:
Sisters line is too new to really add anything to this release. So with that being said, Ephrael Stern almost seems like a shoe in, sine it's a character and not really a separate full unit or rules expansion.

didn't the space marine codex came out shortly before PA and they got rules in it. I don't expect any new models for sisters, but custom orders and perhapse a couple of stratagems can happen

 
   
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Stern is a Sisters-Psyker.

No way she could be added without adding new rules (e.g. Sisters Psychic Powers).




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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I wouldn’t expect sisters rules in a PA book, myself. On Parish - I agree with OP - it seems by far the most interesting of the future releases. I just hope there’s decent model releases and updates with it. Excluding Necrons, the other factions are relatively small in my mind.


That said, we don't know which factions actually will be in Pariah (if that is even the title).

War of the Spider only has 2 factions from the preview graphic (and 2 that weren't on it). There might well be 2 more PA books after War of the Spider with 2 factions from the preview-graphic each (and some double-dip things such as Chaos Marines with War of the Spider). While unlikely, there could be even more.

All discussion is on the assumption that Pariah will include all 4 remaining from the preview graphic, but while somewhat probable, it's in no way certain.









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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I wouldn’t expect sisters rules in a PA book, myself.
GW have stated they're getting PA rules.

GW community team have said flat wrong things before too. Pepperidge farm remembers. Also looking at the PA map it seems pretty obvious they've been 'featured' as far as GW are concerned. The big Fleur de lis is the giveaway.
   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I wouldn’t expect sisters rules in a PA book, myself.
GW have stated they're getting PA rules.

GW community team have said flat wrong things before too. Pepperidge farm remembers. Also looking at the PA map it seems pretty obvious they've been 'featured' as far as GW are concerned. The big Fleur de lis is the giveaway.


Chaos marines have already featured but they're getting some more extras, there is no right/wrong or set pattern now.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
Sisters line is too new to really add anything to this release. So with that being said, Ephrael Stern almost seems like a shoe in, sine it's a character and not really a separate full unit or rules expansion.


Stern and maybe a getting started box containing the sprues from the limited box set?

Stern was mentioned at the start so it seems appropriate she'd be at the end.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
You forgot the Sisters of Battle there, Kan.

I know. I'm still not sure if we'll see something for them, as there were reports that the army pack had "Faith and Fury" tags for the box in some instances.


Irrelevant. GW has flat out said they will get.

Who do you believe. Some guy internet who said PA2 is all sisters get or the company who does the bloody game in the first place?

GW...said...sisters...will...still...get...rules....in....psychic...awakening.

Future tense. Not past. Can't get clearer than that. GW doesn't always tell everything and rather go "we'll see in future" or "we'll let you know when we hear about it" when they don't want to tell but they don't flat out lie. If they say something is coming then it is coming. If not or they don't want it to be known yet they go for "we'll see in future don't we". GW didn't do that. They flat out said it's coming.

Going "no they won't" is about as logical and sensible as flat earthers going "earth is flat!".

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I image Sisters will get some kind of, create your own Order rules.
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
Sisters line is too new to really add anything to this release.

You know CSM were right before the Sisters and they got multiple new models in PA? Is their line a week too old to be declared 'new'?
   
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Rampant speculation, but this might be part of a new Pariah model:



So, the Silent King returns from beyond the edge of the galaxy with these new abominations - human blanks, kidnapped and dismembered, then implanted into a living metal body. On their backs they carry these pieces of Noctilith, to amplify their null fields.

Alternatively, since this is another rumour that is doing the rounds, it is the mad Cryptek Illuminator Szeras who is the one returning, with his deranged creations in tow.

Let's just hope they get interesting rules and not just a -1 to cast psychic powers in a 9" bubble or something else that is equally useless.

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 Oguhmek wrote:
Rampant speculation, but this might be part of a new Pariah model:



So, the Silent King returns from beyond the edge of the galaxy with these new abominations - human blanks, kidnapped and dismembered, then implanted into a living metal body. On their backs they carry these pieces of Noctilith, to amplify their null fields.

Alternatively, since this is another rumour that is doing the rounds, it is the mad Cryptek Illuminator Szeras who is the one returning, with his deranged creations in tow.

Let's just hope they get interesting rules and not just a -1 to cast psychic powers in a 9" bubble or something else that is equally useless.


Makes sense tbh, because that looks like it's made of Blackstone, which is anti-psyker in nature.
   
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 Irbis wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
Sisters line is too new to really add anything to this release.

You know CSM were right before the Sisters and they got multiple new models in PA? Is their line a week too old to be declared 'new'?


ah yes, the old Faith and Fury.."w're not done with marines, just yet!". Forgot about that.

It's possible sisters will get custom orders I guess, but I don't think we will see new strats or relics though. I still hope for Stern, would be a great character to add.

Trouble is, if it's all 4 of the remaining factions (which we don;t know), someone is getting minimal support since you can't fully flesh out every faction. If Deathwatch are in it, they will at least get Chaplain litanies, maybe a new Phobos kill team, etc, so will probably eat a chunk because marines (not anti-marine, I have Deathwatch). Hoping more for Harlequins and Necrons though really.
   
 
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