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Having just watched the new Astartes (and finding it immensely confusing upon first watch) I thought I'd lay out a breakdown of it here that seems to make sense to me.
Link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoCcpMW8fSs

SPOILERS BELOW

Spoiler:


So it opens with the Retributors captain and sergeant on board the chapter battlebarge overseeing the boarding action by the Impulsors (the designation of this particular marine squad) led by sergeant Kohren. The astartes (possibly acting under the mandate of the Inquisition of visa-versa) have already gained possession of one sphere, we'll call this "Sphere 1".
Sphere one is held by psychic dampeners/some form of containment mechanism to be studied by the Inquisition.

On the enemy ship the impulsor squad moves into the chamber and trips some sort of alarm system. As they walk in further they see a half-constructed talos golem - presumably some sort of mechanized body intended to house the entity within "Sphere 2" (possibly their overall mission, to gain physical form). Surrounding this construct are many psychic amplification devices (spine and mask) which we saw the psykers using previously. This indicates either that they were being used to empower the golem which was requiring a lot of energy to create or that they were planning on possibly "upgrading" other suitable members of their rebellion to the status of psykers.

As the Astartes come face to face with Sphere 2 it attempts to ward them away or dominate their minds with wave after wave of psychic attacks which the marines shrug off. Sphere 2 then shows that it knows the marines by naming them "astartes" as though cursing. This suggests that the two factions have prior history with one another. Sphere 2 feigns weakness as the astartes begin installing what appears to be handheld psychic dampeners of containment devices.

As it cuts back to the battlebarge we see the Inquisitor dive into the warp and witness a communication between Sphere 1 and Sphere 2 which to my understanding goes as follows:

Sphere 2: Who's there?
Sphere 1: We have failed, the Astartes defy our touch. We must return, break your seal!
Sphere 2: We will never survive
Sphere 1: YOU MUST! (Survive/Break seal) take them with you ...

At this point the Inquisitor makes a mistake, he ejects himself from the conversation and lets down his guard to warn the captain saying "The astartes are in danger!". The captain conveys this to the tactical marine in the room who rushes to warn the squad.
This alerts the sphere in the room (Sphere 1) to his presence and attacks. We here him whisper "He knows" and the Inquisitor is forcibly jerked back into a trance-like state. This is followed an energy discharge that we see directly hit the inquisitor. At this point the psyker attempts to fight back by plunging once again into the warp

We are shown (what I believe) is a vision of the future, of what will come to pass. The psyker is overwhelmed by the sphere and is taken over completely at which point the marines put him down with prejudice (I especially like the little detail of the sergeants bolter detonations blowing back the captains cloak showing the sheer force of bolt rounds)

Back on the heretics ship we see sergeant Kohren receive the warning transmission. Unfortunately it is too late and the entity within Sphere 2 withdraws, drawing the astartes in in its wake. Here we see what i believe to be the creatures true form, a tentacled, gargoyle-like beast. It breaks down the seal (sphere) as part of its escape. The Astartes are sucked into the sphere alongside it, possibly as a side effect of the seal being broken, possibly by the creature itself's power, either way the result is the same.

We then see the creature in its true warp form, presumably translating through the warp and taking the astartes with it. In the warp-like nebulae we see clouds of black, these could translate to worlds, landmasses, daemonworlds, warp storms etc but a single black cloud rushes up to meet them consuming the creature. I interpret this as the creature selecting its homeworld and descending upon it with the result looking like it is coming up to meet them. However it could represent a pulse of energy from a 3rd party, maybe the final desperate last act of the Inquisitor?

Either way, sergeant Kohren is deposited in a strange land, a valley surrounded by what looks like the statues or mummified remains of ancient kings/xenos/daemons. We can't tell whether its a real planet, a daemon world or even real at all. Khoren vomits and the blood immediately coagulates (and we get a great face reveal). The video ends with the valley being put into perspective as the rest of Kohren's impulsor squad materialize on the surrounding pillars. It is revealed that Khoren himself is standing on a pillar himself which puts into perspective the enormous size of the surrounding objects


What i love especially about this series and why I love this part the most is its ramping feel. The process begins with the calm, silent, almost serene boarding action as the assault craft drifts through space towards the heretics ship. The tension builds as the marines fight their way through hordes of well prepared guardsman. You get a false crescendo as they fight for their lives against the powerful psykers and an apparent release of tension upon their victory. This process starts again with the calm entrance to the inner vault, the meditating inquisitor, it ramps up again over the course of the interaction between the spheres/the molestation of the astartes and then the true crescendo transcends into full blown cosmic horror with the reveal of the entity within.

The whole series ends the rest of the marines squad materializing in the valley by putting sergeant Kohren into visual perspective. This unstoppable astartes is rendered a tiny spec in a vast, incomprehensible alien landscape . its just brilliantly done. In my mind this series is over, there is no need for any more exposition. The ending is left deliberately ambiguous as it leaves the audience in the same state as the space marines - utterly confused and shell shocked. We, like the characters have no understanding of what or where this place is or what brought us here. What are these creatures? Are the marines still alive? Does this place really exist? It captures the nature of cosmic horror so completely and so masterfully. In my mind the visions the Inquisitor was shown are a window into the future, the Astartes die on this "world"

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Such a brilliant series. Getting some serious Bloodquest vibes if that is a world within the Warp they've been sent to.

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Dat punch tho!

Also, nice Sladislaw Zdzisław Beksinski influence.

Edit: The creator does something that I've also toyed with a bit, and that is to thicken the midsection of the marine armor. The models are nice, but they all suffer from having wierdly narrow waists in proportion to their shoulders. Astartes does a good job on their "realifying" the armor and I appreciate that detail in particular. If I were to redesign the tabletop minis I would do the same.

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Excellent analysis!

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Nice write up. I only had time for one view.last night and I couldn't quite.get the relationship.between the spheres. I thought they were maybe the same sphere at 2 different times, but I like your description better.

Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!

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 Insectum7 wrote:
Dat punch tho!

Also, nice Sladislaw Beksinski influence.

Edit: The creator does something that I've also toyed with a bit, and that is to thicken the midsection of the marine armor. The models are nice, but they all suffer from having wierdly narrow waists in proportion to their shoulders. Astartes does a good job on their "realifying" the armor and I appreciate that detail in particular. If I were to redesign the tabletop minis I would do the same.


It is Zdzisław Baksinki. For easier search for others, that may want to look for his art.



Was that bronze man thingy a w40k metal man?

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Was that bronze man thingy a w40k metal man?

I think its deliberately left open for interpretation but I suspect not. It appears to be a body intended to receive the entity within the sphere aboard the heretic ship, as we see it is surrounded by psychic amplifiers suggesting it was taking a lot of energy and power to create the statue. It also appears to be in a state of construction rather than degeneration and the entities when talking to each other say "we have failed", almost as though there was a mission at hand. I believe the goal of that mission was to take physical form, hence the need for the acolytes
   
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Is the sphere a Yu'vath thingy? It looks bio and bone like enough to be justt hat. And their artefact are all fueled by captured demons mixed with maligned AI. It could even be a Yu'vath warp drive, that lets ships traverse the warp at super speed without the need for navigators. But with deadly consequances to anyone non chaos related.

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Hand is trapped? Zero hesitation, time to blow the thing off!

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It has been a truly excellent series, and a well crafted analysis there too.

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Karol wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
Dat punch tho!

Also, nice Sladislaw Beksinski influence.

Edit: The creator does something that I've also toyed with a bit, and that is to thicken the midsection of the marine armor. The models are nice, but they all suffer from having wierdly narrow waists in proportion to their shoulders. Astartes does a good job on their "realifying" the armor and I appreciate that detail in particular. If I were to redesign the tabletop minis I would do the same.


It is Zdzisław Baksinki. For easier search for others, that may want to look for his art.


Yessir. Thank you for correcting my sloppy spelling. I should have just looked behind me as I have a book of his art in my office.

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Personally I wouldn't get too hung up on the nature of the entities/aliens, etc. My take on things is that Astartes doesn't necessarily attempt to be lore accurate and is ok with introducing new concepts into the lore and reinterpreting things through the creators artistic license. Consider it "inspired by" rather than an attempt at an accurate depiction of the setting.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Personally I wouldn't get too hung up on the nature of the entities/aliens, etc. My take on things is that Astartes doesn't necessarily attempt to be lore accurate and is ok with introducing new concepts into the lore and reinterpreting things through the creators artistic license. Consider it "inspired by" rather than an attempt at an accurate depiction of the setting.

40k is a vast setting, it could easily be an entirely new creature and still remain well within the bounds of lore. I believe he deliberately leaves its nature open to interpretation to play on the idea of the unknown and undefinable
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:
Personally I wouldn't get too hung up on the nature of the entities/aliens, etc. My take on things is that Astartes doesn't necessarily attempt to be lore accurate and is ok with introducing new concepts into the lore and reinterpreting things through the creators artistic license. Consider it "inspired by" rather than an attempt at an accurate depiction of the setting.


I figured even if the enemy entity hadn't been written about before in the some more official capacity, it certainly didn't feel out of place in 40k setting as I understand it. I think it was a smart move to go very obscure/new concept with it as it prevents lore grognards from forming an expectation on how it works allowing them to experience the series much closer to that of a viewer with little to no experience with the 40k universe. The creator made great use of the sense of the unknown through the entire series, especially in the last video. I think having a more well established enemy entity wouldn't resonate as well along the same lines of the cliche, "Familiarity breeds contempt."
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:Personally I wouldn't get too hung up on the nature of the entities/aliens, etc. My take on things is that Astartes doesn't necessarily attempt to be lore accurate and is ok with introducing new concepts into the lore and reinterpreting things through the creators artistic license. Consider it "inspired by" rather than an attempt at an accurate depiction of the setting.
I'm not sure they're not trying to be lore accurate (like, the work and attention to detail they've taken? I don't think they're playing fast and loose here), but I agree that it's definitely sensible to not over-analyse what the artefact is. Not everything *needs* an answer, and more importantly, not everything needs to fit into pre-existing things we know exist. I think this is far more likely something completely homebrew, which plays by 40k universe rules.


Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:I think it was a smart move to go very obscure/new concept with it as it prevents lore grognards from forming an expectation on how it works allowing them to experience the series much closer to that of a viewer with little to no experience with the 40k universe. The creator made great use of the sense of the unknown through the entire series, especially in the last video. I think having a more well established enemy entity wouldn't resonate as well along the same lines of the cliche, "Familiarity breeds contempt."
Exactly - and this is part of why I think Astartes is a much better video for all fans of 40k than DoH because it doesn't really require much previous knowledge, and any knowledge you do have won't really "spoil" the surprise. It's not like "ooh look at this glowing green pyramid with hieroglyph themed images - I wonder what that could be?" Having an otherwise unknown (either through obscurity or it being homebrew) entity creates a sense of suspense for all those who watch, and I think trying to identify the artefact/alien as something we're already familiar with does it a disservice.


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Creator has confirmed that the entity is of their own creation

https://imgur.com/a/9aTsv0W

in terms of lore accuracy/attention to detail, the creators conception of the setting seems a bit more high tech and streamlined than GWs own portrayals of it, the weapons are less bulky, the technology seems decidedly less analog than in most portrayals of the setting, the decoy pods/drones in chapter 2, widespread use of HUDs and vision emhancing displays by guardsmen level dudes, etc. It leans less heavy into the baroque and gothic imagery than GW does, not everything is adorned by skulls and detailed with gothic archways, etc.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Creator has confirmed that the entity is of their own creation

https://imgur.com/a/9aTsv0W
Thanks for finding that, nice to put that one to rest.


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