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Would it kill GW to embrace some aspect of the Astartes' roots as space knights and make some bad arse knights with feth-off swords to purge the heretic and smite xenos with?
   
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 Bloviator wrote:
Would it kill GW to embrace some aspect of the Astartes' roots as space knights and make some bad arse knights with feth-off swords to purge the heretic and smite xenos with?
The master-crafted power sword on the Gravis Captain looks pretty wide to me.

In fact, most of the Primaris power swords look pretty normal compared to old Marine swords, to the point where hand-swaps between the two are trivial.

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I'd like to see a primaris unit with chainswords, we've actually seen lots of power swords

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There's a very angry Wolf Lord leaping around with a chainsword at the moment and the upgrade sprue for that faction has a couple. As far as Power swords, the phobos librarian has a pretty nice sword
   
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Forget the swords, where are the freaking lightning claws?
   
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Tiberias wrote:
Forget the swords, where are the freaking lightning claws?
I wouldn't even use lightning claws, but I'd love them to be an option.

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Lightning claws used to be terminator-only and while they slowly worked their way into power armor models, this is a good opportunity to wind them back to being equipment for heavy armor like aggressors
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
I'd like to see a primaris unit with chainswords, we've actually seen lots of power swords


I totally agree, they're so iconic that I'm completely baffled as to why they haven't been given to primaris. I was thinking of starting a custom chapter that's primarily primaris, but I won't do it until there are solid melee units.
   
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 ArcaneHorror wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'd like to see a primaris unit with chainswords, we've actually seen lots of power swords


I totally agree, they're so iconic that I'm completely baffled as to why they haven't been given to primaris. I was thinking of starting a custom chapter that's primarily primaris, but I won't do it until there are solid melee units.


to be fair with shock assault, 2 attacks base the assault doctrine and maybe a strat or 2, normal intercessors can be pretty solid melee units

plus can't reivers all have swords? all be them really long knives
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 Latro_ wrote:
 ArcaneHorror wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'd like to see a primaris unit with chainswords, we've actually seen lots of power swords


I totally agree, they're so iconic that I'm completely baffled as to why they haven't been given to primaris. I was thinking of starting a custom chapter that's primarily primaris, but I won't do it until there are solid melee units.


to be fair with shock assault, 2 attacks base the assault doctrine and maybe a strat or 2, normal intercessors can be pretty solid melee units

plus can't reivers all have swords? all be them really long knives
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Salamander successor with Whirlwind of Rage, Veteran Intecessors, Chaplain with Exhortation of Rage and Vulkan's Sigil, Strength of the Primarch, Crucible of Battle. Two CPs before the battle two on the turn. Three attacks base, +1 for the charge, +1 for the Sigil (so 26 attacks for the min unit), plus every 6 to-hit procs a second hit and another attack, at S5 with a +1 to-wound, and every natural 6 to-wound doubles damage for the weapon. And obviously that Serg can be packing a flat D4 Thunder Hammer. It's a lot of resources, but if you can deliver it...

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 Bloviator wrote:
Would it kill GW to embrace some aspect of the Astartes' roots as space knights and make some bad arse knights with feth-off swords to purge the heretic and smite xenos with?


I've been saying this the whole time! We need a squad filled with eviserators!
   
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 Bloviator wrote:
Would it kill GW to embrace some aspect of the Astartes' roots as space knights and make some bad arse knights with feth-off swords to purge the heretic and smite xenos with?


Because GW hates close combat, and are looking to outphase it or atleast turn it into a mere afterthought. Atleast thats how it feels with fallback rule, terrain rules, and primaris being ranged only (and Reivers are a joke so im not counting them in),
   
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Eh Aggressors are pretty melee oriented now that they have A3 base but yeah more shooting units has been pretty fething uncreative for Primaris.

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Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.

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 Insectum7 wrote:
Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.


At least they've seemingly exhausted the 10th company vanguard range. I mean there's not much more you can make for 100 marines. They've got more variety than the 1st company veterans now....
   
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 Hellebore wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.


At least they've seemingly exhausted the 10th company vanguard range. I mean there's not much more you can make for 100 marines. They've got more variety than the 1st company veterans now....


Heh, only if "variety" means different types of bolter.

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Would it kill GW to embrace some aspect of the Astartes' roots as space knights and make some bad arse knights with feth-off swords to purge the heretic and smite xenos with?


I second this motion.

I need more giant swords in my life.

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Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

By shields I assume you mean storm shields? So a 2W, 2A model with a 3++? Assuming storm shields remain 2 points that's 19ppm on an intercessor with a chain sword. Looking for some baby terminators are you?
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

By shields I assume you mean storm shields? So a 2W, 2A model with a 3++? Assuming storm shields remain 2 points that's 19ppm on an intercessor with a chain sword. Looking for some baby terminators are you?
Storm shields, combat shields, boarding shields, I don't care. I just want shields, and I don't care how expensive they are in game.

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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

By shields I assume you mean storm shields? So a 2W, 2A model with a 3++? Assuming storm shields remain 2 points that's 19ppm on an intercessor with a chain sword. Looking for some baby terminators are you?
Storm shields, combat shields, boarding shields, I don't care. I just want shields, and I don't care how expensive they are in game.

Ah, so more about models than rules. Personally I always preferred the look of boarding shields. Not sure what price and rules for them would be in 8th edition.
   
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I converted some Vexatrix Guard for my Ultramarines army from bits I had laying around. A couple spare Primaris Lieutenants from Dark Imperium, replace their heads with those from the Venerable Dreadnought, give them a Custodes storm shield, and a Grey Knights Terminator broadsword. They look beefy as all heck. Primaris with 2+ saves, storm shields, and giant power swords.
   
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 cuda1179 wrote:
I converted some Vexatrix Guard for my Ultramarines army from bits I had laying around. A couple spare Primaris Lieutenants from Dark Imperium, replace their heads with those from the Venerable Dreadnought, give them a Custodes storm shield, and a Grey Knights Terminator broadsword. They look beefy as all heck. Primaris with 2+ saves, storm shields, and giant power swords.


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Sounds awesome, interested in seeing how they turned out.

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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

The thread exists for a reason. Even the Scout Sergeant can take a Thunder Hammer. The best a Phobos squad can get for CC is a knife iirc. Primaris design has more emphasis on "assault rifle" variants and modern military weapon aesthetics.


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I'm guessing because giant swords are very 90s?
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

By shields I assume you mean storm shields? So a 2W, 2A model with a 3++? Assuming storm shields remain 2 points that's 19ppm on an intercessor with a chain sword. Looking for some baby terminators are you?
Storm shields, combat shields, boarding shields, I don't care. I just want shields, and I don't care how expensive they are in game.

Ah, so more about models than rules. Personally I always preferred the look of boarding shields. Not sure what price and rules for them would be in 8th edition.

Aggressor equivalents would be the perfect profile to try and represent a shield with that additional +1T/W. I would think an Alexis Pollux kinda thing, with a Shield, Fist (or Sword, as the Custodes ones are pretty darn big) and a giant gun coming out of one of them or both!

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BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

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Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Insectum7 wrote:Because there aren't many swords in Call of Duty, and giant swords are anti-tacticool.
I don't remember hand flamers, thunder hammers, Librarians, plasma weaponry, and power fists in Call of Duty, or them being tacticool.

But, come to think of it, I don't remember massive swords on Scouts either, the equivalent unit to the Infiltrators/Incursors/Eliminators.

So, unless you're implying that the Phobos range is all that the Primaris have (which would be absurd, and horrifically incorrect), I'm not sure how important those above units having giant swords is, or how it's suddenly a giant faux-pas.

Do note, I definitely do want a Primaris CC unit. Shields, preferably. Also, I'd have loved Reivers to have something like combat axes or hatchets, just something with a bit more oomf. At least their weapon has the same profile as a chainsword, and it's not hard to do a weapon swap conversion.

By shields I assume you mean storm shields? So a 2W, 2A model with a 3++? Assuming storm shields remain 2 points that's 19ppm on an intercessor with a chain sword. Looking for some baby terminators are you?
Storm shields, combat shields, boarding shields, I don't care. I just want shields, and I don't care how expensive they are in game.

Ah, so more about models than rules. Personally I always preferred the look of boarding shields. Not sure what price and rules for them would be in 8th edition.

Aggressor equivalents would be the perfect profile to try and represent a shield with that additional +1T/W. I would think an Alexis Pollux kinda thing, with a Shield, Fist (or Sword, as the Custodes ones are pretty darn big) and a giant gun coming out of one of them or both!

Maybe. Personally, since intercessors already take design cues from mark IV armour, I'd like to see a cc primaris shield unit that takes aspects from mark III armour, like breacher squads.

Though another primaris unit that borrows from the hh units would make me a bit jealous that csm still have nothing similar.
   
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Martel732 wrote:
I'm guessing because giant swords are very 90s?

80's dawg. 90's is the era of the katana.

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We're now in the knifeocene where combat tacticool knives are where it's at.

   
 
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