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Not exactly got my finger on the pulse of modern gaming, but this popped up on my FB feed.

IGN seems to think it’s a Fighter sim, following up on the Rogue Squadron games.

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-squadrons-leaks-on-xbox-store-website

Anyone else got info?


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Also, as this will likely have an online element, anyone fancy forming Dakka Skwadron?

I can’t promise I’ll be any cop, but you will get to see me fly an A-Wing like I stole it!

If it’s EA and Star Wars, I’m out. I still feel burned from buying Battlefront for £40. EA can feth off.

I'd like to believe its either an X-Wing revival, or at least the PS2 Starfighter games, but zero faith in neither Disney nor Electronic Arts.

If they dropped the name Lawrence Holland I'd give it a chance, but it'll be something average no doubt. Certainly not handing over £50+ for a dull game with Star Wars slapped on the title screen.

Well, given that Inferno Squadron were both ground troops and pilots--probably think something in that vein. Also worth noting that both Rebels and Empire forces shown on the leaked key art were starfighters surrounding transports(U-Wings for the Rebels and a TIE Reaper for the Empire).

This seemingly coincides with a "Project: Maverick" that Motive(responsible for Battlefront II) was hiring for a few years back which had "story elements, character designs, voice acting, and cooperative multiplayer aspects" as the key focus for hires.

Frankly, anyone complaining about Battlefront can move right on out of this thread. Far better support than people act like it got.

Well at least it's not another shooter. Still think a podracing game would be cool using next gen hardware. Much rather play that than gran turismo on ps5.

Even if this turns out half baked, I’ve been gagging for a Star fighter sim for years now. And, I kinda enjoyed the offerings in BF2.

Provided EA continue on their micro transaction rehab, this is almost certainly a must-buy for me.

Microtransactions were gone after the first two months or so in Battlefront 2. They never even launched in BFV. Insisting on EA needing to do some kind of "rehab" is ridiculous while games like Overwatch, Call of Duty, and Gears of War still have them as a central element seemingly get a free pass.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Microtransactions were gone after the first two months or so in Battlefront 2. They never even launched in BFV. Insisting on EA needing to do some kind of "rehab" is ridiculous while games like Overwatch, Call of Duty, and Gears of War still have them as a central element seemingly get a free pass.

Erm , there is premium currency and a Shop mate in bfv.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Microtransactions were gone after the first two months or so in Battlefront 2. They never even launched in BFV. Insisting on EA needing to do some kind of "rehab" is ridiculous while games like Overwatch, Call of Duty, and Gears of War still have them as a central element seemingly get a free pass.

Erm , there is premium currency and a Shop mate in bfv.

None of the items within are required. It's only recently(within the past two or three weeks) that anything gameplay related has been added(the "Shortcut" packs, which do nothing but unlock weapons...of which most are unlocked by having bought the Year Two version of BFV). The shop covers items with both Battlefield Currency(which is the Premium Currency that they're literally now giving away in Weekly Missions and is for Elite skins[which have zero gameplay effect], certain cosmetics, and now the Shortcut Packs) and Company Coins(which are earned by playing the game).

When people like to say "microtransactions", it's them slyly winking and nudging you while handing a note saying "lootboxes". There are zero lootboxes in BFV.

Erm ,no mate and that Stuff is still an issue and abused by the industry regardless if it is a lootbox or not.
Aka microtransactions.

And whilest it is by far not as predatory as peak EA is , it's the Same baseline issue that cripples alot of their Games /resells of Games with another year numbers atached.

TL: DR allways wait a bit and See if the game is from EA. Or any Big AAA publisher with microtransactions tendencies Like activision etc.

TIE Fighter was one of my favorite games back in the day. If this is half as good as that, I'm totally in.

Maybe something like Wing Commander Armada?

Star Wars Squadrons you say?
**gets misty eyed remembering Rogue Squadron on the N64 with the 4mb expansion Pak**

But 2020 is gonna 2020, so its probably gonna be some kind of deck building phone app.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Frankly, anyone complaining about Battlefront can move right on out of this thread. Far better support than people act like it got.

Then its going to be a very lonely thread!

Seriously, though. I would have bought the first game but there was no Clone Wars era. Second game it was "yeah, at some point maybe...". EA had the financial might of Disney behind them and couldn't deliver what LucasArts had back in 2004 with the very first Battlefront.


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GoatboyBeta wrote:


But 2020 is gonna 2020, so its probably gonna be some kind of deck building phone app.

Don't you not have a phone?

I'm a fan of the original trilogy films. I have X-Wing, TIE Fighter and X-Wing alliance (and the fantastic mods for XWA). Also really enjoyed Wing Commander III (not Star Wars, but similar game, and stars Mark Hamill). Although strangely I've never completed any of those games. I would love a X-Wing/TIE Fighter reboot/reimagining type game.

I'd settle for a graphical remaster with better controller (i.e. gamepad/HOTAS) support.

Unfortunately I've been disappointed with every Star Wars game since Battlefront II Classic back in 2005.

Star Wars, despite the fanboy and reviewers reactions, seems to be one of those franchises where almost everything tends to just miss the mark. Bit like GW video games, there's lots of them (mostly 40k), but very few (only one or two in fact) that are actually truly any good.

SamusDrake wrote:


Don't you not have a phone?

Of course. What I don't have is a modern version of Rogue Squadron

GoatboyBeta wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:


Don't you not have a phone?

Of course. What I don't have is a modern version of Rogue Squadron

Amen to that!

Rogue Squadron was quite a fun game if I remember correctly. Was over the moon they had the World Devastators from Dark Empire and totally what I was hoping for with the Sequels...but nah. Sadly not.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Star Wars Squadrons you say?
**gets misty eyed remembering Rogue Squadron on the N64 with the 4mb expansion Pak**

But 2020 is gonna 2020, so its probably gonna be some kind of deck building phone app.

Don’t.....don’t take my Hope from me :(

For belated clarity, my reference to EA’s Microtransaction rehab was reflecting their wise decision to knock it off with BF2.

See, I’m a very casual gamer. In life, I simply don’t have the spare hours necessary to Git Gud. So I have to accept a certain level of ‘red headed stepchild’ experience. But add in Goons Buying Better Gear on top, and it’s a solid deal breaker.

Battlefront put me off because it was 100% online, so I didn’t even have a sandpit to learn the ropes, and just got the hell beaten out of me.

BF2 had its story mode, which I really enjoyed. And I’m hoping this one will have similar!

Didn't STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order end up being good? I get companies like EA and Bethesda drop the ball a lot and honestly I don't doubt they'll continue to do so but sometimes....just sometimes they do good or the companies under them do good. I mean Fallout 76 was fixed and they pulled a "No Man's Sky" level fix. That's all you really have to do to make gamers happy. Don't insult them and even if they are being jerks because your game wasn't up to par when it came out it doesn't mean the bridge is fully burnt if you can fix it and maybe give out an apology that the game wasn't quite ready yet.

Thing is, we know nothing about this game except for its name. We don't know whether it'll be a space combat sim like X-Wing (doubtful, imo, since the genre is largely dead at this time; but it is possible). Or if it'll be a more arcade-ish sim. Or if it'll be a collectible card game.

The reveal trailer is on the 15th. Assuming that it's not just a teaser, that's when we'll get a better idea of what's coming.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Didn't STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order end up being good? I get companies like EA and Bethesda drop the ball a lot and honestly I don't doubt they'll continue to do so but sometimes....just sometimes they do good or the companies under them do good. I mean Fallout 76 was fixed and they pulled a "No Man's Sky" level fix. That's all you really have to do to make gamers happy. Don't insult them and even if they are being jerks because your game wasn't up to par when it came out it doesn't mean the bridge is fully burnt if you can fix it and maybe give out an apology that the game wasn't quite ready yet.

It was pretty average, and 76 is.. not really all that fixed. Especially if you count all the anti-consumer nonsense they were and are still pulling for it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Well, given that Inferno Squadron were both ground troops and pilots--probably think something in that vein. Also worth noting that both Rebels and Empire forces shown on the leaked key art were starfighters surrounding transports(U-Wings for the Rebels and a TIE Reaper for the Empire).

This seemingly coincides with a "Project: Maverick" that Motive(responsible for Battlefront II) was hiring for a few years back which had "story elements, character designs, voice acting, and cooperative multiplayer aspects" as the key focus for hires.

Frankly, anyone complaining about Battlefront can move right on out of this thread. Far better support than people act like it got.

You’re telling me to get out due to Battlefront 2? Pffftt, I never even got the second game I felt so burned after the first. What was it, 4 maps on an only multiplayer game for £40? I’ve never felt so let down by a game I was looking forward to ever. EA can kiss my fething arse if they think they’ll ever get a penny out of me again.

Too bad there wasn't a demo you could have played to see if you liked it first or some kind of product information that was easily found to see what the game was...

I did play the demo and liked it. That’s why I bought it. I was just a little shocked, like almost everyone that bought it, that when they released new maps, you had to buy a £40 add on if you wanted them. There was almost no content in the core game.

If you want to shill for EA though by all means, keep buying all the surprise mechanics or whatever stupid crap they call them, I’m done with them, and won’t support anything they do. feth them.

They literally made no secret of the Season Pass at the outset. They also sold the maps as 'packs', themed around a specific one(Outer Rim, Cloud City, Rogue One, Death Star) where it was just the maps that you couldn't get outside of the DLC.


You can keep trying to say I'm a shill or a white knight or whatever, but that's on you for not actually having a cursory understanding of how the product you bought worked. It's not like this stuff was hidden.

It's also why when Battlefront II came out, they made it so the maps were (shock! gasp!) free to avoid splintering the playerbase again. It's how they have done all their big titles since Battlefront/Battlefield 1.

You’re talking like I’m the only person to have noted the lack of content. It’s my fault that I didn’t exactly how little content there was in the game before release? Get real. I am fully aware of season passes, but they vary wildly in how important they are. I played a lot of The Division, had the gold pass for that, but it added little to the core game. EA makes a season pass, and it seems that without it you pretty much are left with a demo.

Your last line basically reaffirms why I was right to be annoyed (shock! gasp!) You don’t usually try to win an argument by backing up the other persons points, so well done there.

You keep emptying your wallet to EA every time they want to take you to the cleaners, I’ll just stay clear of their products and questionable business practices.

Defending GW is one thing, but defending EA's deplorable anti-consumer business practices is a whole extra level of amazing.

Isn't there a joke meme about every game series EA destroyed and all of those fans putting their hands into a group wanting to see EA burn? They killed command and conquer, the Sims, dead space, ruin star wars games and more. I think they do a little good but man between Bethesda, EA and maybe blizzard I don't know who is trying to piss off gamers more.

Kanluwen man EA had there chance with me with command and conquer and a couple other games. I liked cnc 3 but cnc 4 and the eventual murdering of the franchise wasn't cool. This story is pretty common with EA even without other shady bs EA does.

https://heavy.com/games/2017/10/studios-ea-has-killed-visceral-games/

just studios status anno 2017

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Didn't STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order end up being good? I get companies like EA and Bethesda drop the ball a lot and honestly I don't doubt they'll continue to do so but sometimes....just sometimes they do good or the companies under them do good. I mean Fallout 76 was fixed and they pulled a "No Man's Sky" level fix. That's all you really have to do to make gamers happy. Don't insult them and even if they are being jerks because your game wasn't up to par when it came out it doesn't mean the bridge is fully burnt if you can fix it and maybe give out an apology that the game wasn't quite ready yet.

I certainly enjoyed it, but was left wanting a bit more.

I mean, compare the hours and hours I can while away on GTA, Skyrim and Fallout 4 ( yes I’m aware opinions vary as to the relative quality of those games, but I enjoyed them plenty).

Fallen Order wasn’t as gloriously violent as God of War, and just a bit too linear for me. If they’d thrown in a bunch of side missions, I’d probably still be playing it.

As an individual, I’ve no real beef with EA and their chums, because I simply don’t play computer games terribly often. But I’m aware enough that Play To Win via Micro Transaction is a thing, and why it’s hated. Likewise, day one expansion content which is actually encoded on the disk can go get bent.

This one? Provided we get a halfway decent fighter sim, with notable strengths and weaknesses between the ships, I’ll be a happy camper!


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Anyways, little over an hour until we get the reveal video. As it coincides with the end of my working day, reckon I’ll be tuning in.