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Warhammer 40,000 – New Starter Sets Sighted!

The Indomitus launch box hit shelves all across the world over the weekend, with excited hobbyists everywhere heading down to their nearest Warhammer store to get their hands on a copy. Yet even in the aftermath of all this excitement, we’ve got more news on what the future holds for the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. After all, Indomitus was a celebratory boxed set primarily aimed at veteran Warhammer hobbyists, but we certainly haven’t forgotten about all you newcomers to the grim darkness of the far future… behold our glorious new range of starter sets!


Warhammer 40,000 – Recruit Edition
If you’re looking to dip your toe into Warhammer 40,000 for the very first time and learn (or teach!) the basics of the game, the Recruit Edition is for you.



The set includes a handful of miniatures, dice, range rulers, a mat, and a Recruit Manual featuring each unit’s datasheet and guidance to help you learn the basics of the game. It’s an excellent option for younger hobbyists.

Warhammer 40,000 – Elite Edition
The next step up is the Elite Edition, which features a larger selection of units, including the awesome new Necron Overlord and Primaris Captain miniatures!



The Elite Edition is a fantastic option if you’re looking to begin or broaden your collection of Necrons and Space Marines while using the Elite Manual included in the set to learn the game at your own pace.

Warhammer 40,000 – Command Edition
The Command Edition is simply the best way to get started with Warhammer 40,000! Not only does it include all of the amazing models in the Elite Edition, it also boasts a fantastic fold-out, double-sided gaming board to fight your battles on, and a cracking selection of brand-new battlefield terrain. In short, it’s got everything you need to kickstart your Warhammer 40,000 journey with gusto and verve!



The set’s Command Manual features a narrative-driven set of six missions aimed at teaching you key aspects of the game. Once you’ve mastered these principles, a 184-page rulebook will provide you with everything you need to take your next steps towards becoming a hardened veteran of Warhammer 40,000 battlefields!

It’s also worth bearing in mind that any of the three new starter sets are also great options for established collectors too, especially if you’re looking to supplement your existing armies or to top up your Indomitus set with a few additional units!

A Word on Bladeguard Veterans
You may have noticed that none of the new starter sets include the mighty Bladeguard Veterans from the Indomitus boxed set. Well, there’s a reason for that – have you seen these guys?



These glorious warriors will soon be available in a separate, multipart kit all their own. If you’re chomping at the bit to add a unit or two into your army, you won’t have long to wait!

Indomitus – Made to Order



It’s been a wild ride, but the Indomitus journey is coming to an end. With the new starter sets on their way soon, Indomitus can officially pass the torch to its successors. That being the case, the Made to Order window is about to close. In fact, you have until 8am BST tomorrow (Tuesday the 28th of July) to order your copy before we stop making them for good. If you want to take advantage of your last chance to order our best-ever Warhammer 40,000 boxed set, now’s the time – head online and order yours today!

So Recruit Edition is:
Primaris Lieutenant
5x Assault Intercessors
Royal Warden
10x Necron Warriors
3x Canoptek Scarab Swarms

Elite Edition adds:
Overlord
3x Skorpekh Destroyers
Primaris Captain
3x Outriders

And the Command Edition adds terrain.

EDIT: The Elite & Command Editions might replace the Primaris Lieutenant & Royal Warden with the Overlord & Primaris Captain, rather than including them as well.

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I was hoping they'd do something like this, since they did the same thing for Dark Imperium. Wonder if they'll release any units from the box as cheaper snapfit alternatives.
   
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Unpopular opinion - I prefer the move towards having more terrain instead of having more units. Much more appropriate for a "starter" set to have terrain in.

I also like how they do seem a little smaller than the 8th ones - so long as the prices fit with that too. A leader and troops is better than two half-squads of troops, so that's a nice plus over something like First Strike.

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I'm wondering if they're going to keep First Strike and Know No Fear around, and what the prices are going to be - there's a lot in the Recruit Edition for it to be a £25 box.
   
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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Unpopular opinion - I prefer the move towards having more terrain instead of having more units. Much more appropriate for a "starter" set to have terrain in.

I also like how they do seem a little smaller than the 8th ones - so long as the prices fit with that too. A leader and troops is better than two half-squads of troops, so that's a nice plus over something like First Strike.


I’d agree with this. Adding in decent looking plastic terrain is a superior starter set.

And the three sizes of course appeal to different pockets. Let’s not kid ourselves here. Kids are the target here. For the parent concerned it’s just a passing fad? Go with the recruit. You get the goodies, and it’ll likely be comparatively cheap. So if it is just a passing fad, you’re not too far out of pocket. And if it’s a proper sticker of a hobby? Enough to build from.

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beast_gts wrote:
I'm wondering if they're going to keep First Strike and Know No Fear around, and what the prices are going to be - there's a lot in the Recruit Edition for it to be a £25 box.


As a guess they'll sit at £40, £60, £100 maybe.
   
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I suspect £40, £60, £80 myself.

Just a hunch!

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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Unpopular opinion - I prefer the move towards having more terrain instead of having more units.
I wouldn't consider that unpolular. Starter Sets should have terrain. 2nd, 3rd and 4th all did. 5th, 6th/7th and 8th all dropped the ball here.

   
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Idk,I would prefer more models. Terrain around here is handled by the stores so I would like more models to beef up collection

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Am I only one that finds space marine side bit small?

   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Idk,I would prefer more models. Terrain around here is handled by the stores so I would like more models to beef up collection


True but not everyone plays in store. Plus it emcourages people to get their own. Win win really as fw encouragesvterrain sales and morenewer gamers get used to getting and using more terrain that isnt just a few random boxes

   
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The problem GW are going to have is the Command Edition will be directly compared to the Indomitus box. If the price is close to that of the Indomitus box it's going to look like a much poorer deal.


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Sotahullu wrote:
Am I only one that finds space marine side bit small?


Perhaps, but they're balanced on PL (if you exclude the Scarabs).


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 PurpleEcho wrote:
The problem GW are going to have is the Command Edition will be directly compared to the Indomitus box. If the price is close to that of the Indomitus box it's going to look like a much poorer deal.

The Indomitus box goes off-sale tomorrow, and I'd be surprised if the Command Edition is more that £100 (I'm hoping £70-£80).


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I suspect £40, £60, £80 myself.


I'm hoping £70-£80 for the Command Edition, but the newer (rubbish!) Kill Team Starter is £95 for less models & more terrain.

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Sotahullu wrote:
Am I only one that finds space marine side bit small?



It’s literally nine models on that side, and the entire starter set doesn’t come with a larger (60mm-ish) model to help pull in the cool thing impulse buy factor like starter sets historically have.

Yeah, this is kinda embarrassing on that front.
   
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Thing to remember is that the Indomitus set did not come with any scenery, so I'd expect about...£100 to £110 for the Command edition. LOL, if the Command edition does turn out to be £80 then definitely count me in! Not a fan of the marine bikes( they always looked silly! ) but would not argue with such value...

Knowing GW's recent price increases, probably £35 for the Recruit set and £60 for the Elite set. At the very least I'm having the recruit edition for Kill Team!

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changemod wrote:
Sotahullu wrote:
Am I only one that finds space marine side bit small?



It’s literally nine models on that side, and the entire starter set doesn’t come with a larger (60mm-ish) model to help pull in the cool thing impulse buy factor like starter sets historically have.

Yeah, this is kinda embarrassing on that front.


Far away pics fail to sell how large those bikes(taking up most of a 95mm base) actually are.

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Sotahullu wrote:
Am I only one that finds space marine side bit small?



Make it any bigger and it would be even more lopsided

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I like the look of the terrain in the Command Edition - hopefully that gets a standalone release soon after launch.

Interesting that, going by what I can see on the preview pics, the Lieutenant and Royal Warden don't seem to be in the Elite or Command editions, though they are in the Recruit one.

I also find it interesting that the Bladeguard are called out as getting an individual multi-part release, but no word on Eradicators.

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 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting that, going by what I can see on the preview pics, the Lieutenant and Royal Warden don't seem to be in the Elite or Command editions, though they are in the Recruit one.


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 Dysartes wrote:


I also find it interesting that the Bladeguard are called out as getting an individual multi-part release, but no word on Eradicators.


No need for 2 HQs given the small amount of units in the box. As others previously guessed it explains why the Overlord/Captain and Warden/LT are joined on the same sprues.

As for the Bladeguard that is just a reaction to the image being unwittingly leaked by GW themselves on Facebook, no such leak with The Eradicators (yet!).

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 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting that, going by what I can see on the preview pics, the Lieutenant and Royal Warden don't seem to be in the Elite or Command editions, though they are in the Recruit one.


Well spotted!

Yeah, they’re reusing the sprues from Indomitus and the Captain/Overlord are on one sprue while the Warden/Lt. are on a separate one. I was wondering why they’d done that… certainly makes picking/packing the sets easier.

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These line up largely how I expected. I like the choice of terrain, I think it makes for a more 'complete' starter set, rather than lots of models lining up on planet bowling ball. Overall I think the strategy of Indomitus for us long-timers, and then these sets more obviously aimed at new players is quite a good strategy.

Interesting that the hardback rulebook in the Command Edition is half the number of pages of the main Core book - I suspect that they've chopped out the fluff pages and just presented the rules. If that's the case, that could be quite a handy thing to have, I'm sure it would be more convenient to both carry to a game and actually use when playing rather than the version with a couple of hundred pages of lore and twice the weight.

If the Command Edition is around the £80 mark as mentioned above, I'd be tempted to pick one up - I like the terrain, and a slimmed down rulebook without the fluff (if that's what it is) would be useful. If it's more like £100, that's a harder sell, but I'm not exactly the target market for a starter set anyway.
   
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In for a recruit edition myself, hopefully it'll be around the same price bracket as First Strike was, which was also an excellent starting point for the new edition and new players, unlike Dark Vengeance, which didn't even bother with scenarios or tutorials.

It's interesting that they've doubled up on the dice and measuring sticks this time around as well.

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beast_gts wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting that, going by what I can see on the preview pics, the Lieutenant and Royal Warden don't seem to be in the Elite or Command editions, though they are in the Recruit one.


Well spotted!


Thanks

Command Edition is a possible purchase, depending on the expected price of the terrain on its own - an extra unit of bikes and half-unit of On Foot Assault Marines wouldn't be unwelcome.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I suspect £40, £60, £80 myself.

Just a hunch!


Sounds like a decent assumption. Then for USA use current exchange rate pounds to USD then add about 30% markup on top.

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Assuming bikes end up being a $60 box... just those and the terrain will make it worthwhile.

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Seems like an ok deal, but I'm glad I invested in the Indomitus box instead.

I'll pick up or trade for the multipart bladeguard though, they'll be easier to convert.
   
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Us pricing retail for the items for elite and command sans terrain would be;


Necrons - $125
-10 Warriors & 3 Scarabs - $40 (can't find them on the store since they dumped the old ones)
-3 Destroyers & Plasma Dude - $50
-Character - $35 (They don't add an extra character from recruit, they replace them in the images)

Marines - $125
-5 Intercessors - $30
-3 Outriders - $60
-Captain - $35

So you're looking at about $250 retail in models in those sets. I'd be shocked if you weren't looking at $100-$120 for the elite and and $150-$160 for the one with terrain.

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 Hulksmash wrote:

-10 Warriors & 3 Scarabs - $40 (can't find them on the store since they dumped the old ones)


10 troop infanry are 60$ these days. Remember new SKU's get price hike. They won't be same price as old warriors.-

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Hmm, so what's going to happen with the big combo sprue's from Indomitus?
   
 
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