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Spawn of Chaos




Massachusetts

How would I make 2000 point Blood angels list with DawnBreakers, Sanguinius, crimson paladins and anybody else?

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“There is no enemy. The foe on the battlefield is merely a manifestation of that which we must overcome. He is doubt, and fear, and despair. Every battle is fought within. Conquer the battlefield that lies inside you, and the enemy disappears like the illusion he is.” - Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists 
   
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter







Do you have a more general idea about what you want to do? I don't know if I'm being helpful in other threads, if each one has you thinking "nah, I'll ask about a different army".

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Spawn of Chaos




Massachusetts

Sorry if I seem annoying. I'm brand new to this game and wanted some examples of army lists from different legions to get an overview of what they would play like.

“There is no enemy. The foe on the battlefield is merely a manifestation of that which we must overcome. He is doubt, and fear, and despair. Every battle is fought within. Conquer the battlefield that lies inside you, and the enemy disappears like the illusion he is.” - Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists 
   
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter







Not sure I know of any repositories of lists to browse through, and most Legions are flexible enough that they can be built in a lot of different ways, so you'd need to read a lot of lists to figure out what a given Legion does. I'd advise you go skim https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Space_Marine_Legion_List_(30k) to begin; they're not always correct but they do have an overview of all the things that exist and commentary on what they do in relation to what.

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Abel





Washington State

 Kaiser_II wrote:
Sorry if I seem annoying. I'm brand new to this game and wanted some examples of army lists from different legions to get an overview of what they would play like.


Do you have these three books:
The Horus Heresy Age of Darkness Rulebook

The Horus Heresy Legiones Astartes Age of Darkness Army List

The Horus Heresy Book 8: Malevolence

Those are the three books you will need to make a Blood Angels Legion Army List. It's pointless to discuss anything else unless you have those books. The first book is the rulebook for 30K. You'll need that to know how to play. The second book contains all the generic units (like Praetors, Tactical Squads, Terminator Squads, Rhinos, Land Raiders, etc.), Rites of War, and special rules for Space Marine Legions. Book 3 has all the Blood Angel specific rules along with fluff and pictures.

As far as army lists from different Legions? Each Legion is unique with special rules, Rites of War, wargear and units. Without the Legions Army List book, you'll have a hard time understanding why a Sons of Horus player had nothing but Reaver Squads as a Troops choice, or why that Imperial Fists list has Breacher Squads and Terminators, or why that Alpha Legion list has special units from other Legions in it.

Things you can depend on: People love taking Primarchs, so expect that in every list. And if they have a Primarch, then they probably have a Spartan Land Raider too. Even if they don't have a Primarch, the Spartan is still a very popular choice. Fire Raptor Gunships or Storm Eagles are in a lot of lists, and if they don't have those, then they probably have a Lightning or Xiphon. Termite Assault Drills have become the most popular troop transport in 30K. Veteran Squads were a go to choice for a long time until they got nerfed. Now they are still good, but some Legions like to take other units now. WAC players will take 3 units of Rapiers with Phosphex. My advice: Don't play them. The best Legion tank in the game is the Sicaran Battle Tank. You'll probably see a Contemptor dreads as they have some nice options in 30K, but the Levithian Dreadnought is the better option. The Deredeo Dread has some fantastic uses with the right RoW and units. Those are usually corner cases and its pretty obvious what they are once you look at the army list. These are just general themes you'll see in a lot of lists when you play 30K. Not that anyone is really playing a lot of 30K these days, but... Last idea: 2,000 points is the low end of a standard 30K list. 2,500 is about average, with 3,000 not out of the ordinary. Anything less then 2,000 and you should probably be playing Zone Mortalis (kinda like 40K's Kill Team). The big "toys" cost a lot of points, and people like to play with the big toys. Part of the 2,000 point lower limit is that there is a general rule that you can't take Lords of War/Super Heavies of more than 25% of your total points, and at 2,000 points, that's 500 points, where a lot of the Super Heavies start. Also, Primarchs are all considered Lords of War, and the cheapest Primarch is 375 (Logar), with Horus at 500. There are ways around this restriction with certain Rites of War or Army Lists, but it's kind of a jerk move bringing a Super Heavy or Primarch at less then 2,000 points and not tell your opponent who may not have the right kind of army to deal with it.

Good luck, have fun! Remember, Rule of Cool > All in 30K. That just means if it looks cool or you like it, play it and who cares what anyone else thinks. They should recognize the Rule of Cool and praise you for it, just like you should for them.

Kara Sloan shoots through Time and Design Space for a Negative Play Experience  
   
 
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