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First local "fun" tourney is being set up, and I've tried to update one of my 8th edition brigades for 9th. Local meta features marines, guard, drukari, deathg guard, and admech heavily.

Idea is to use the 2 Chimeras to get forward objectives and serve a dakka base and protection for infantry. Mix of direct and indirect fire heavy support and Tank Commanders. Usually I run as Armageddon but for points I had to drop a bunch of Chimeras, so was thinking of going Cadian for the re-roll ones.

List is probably likely to give up a lot of 2ndary points, but these are the models I've got and I won't have time for scions, bullgryns, etc.

See any problems or obvoius tweaks?


++ Brigade Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [107 PL, 11CP, 1,994pts] ++

+ Configuration [12CP] +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]

Detachment CP

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ Stratagems [-1CP] +

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Fist Tank Company [-1CP]

+ HQ [28 PL, 547pts] +

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Frag grenades, Laspistol

Company Commander [2 PL, 42pts]: Bolt pistol [2pts], Frag grenades, Power sword [5pts]

Tank Commander [12 PL, 235pts]: Battle Cannon [20pts], Emperor's Fist, Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Stubber [5pts], Plasma Cannons [40pts], Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander), Warlord

Tank Commander [12 PL, 235pts]: Battle Cannon [20pts], Emperor's Fist, Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Stubber [5pts], Plasma Cannons [40pts], Relic (Emperor's Fist): Hammer of Sunderance, Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander)

+ Troops [18 PL, 342pts] +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 8x Guardsman [40pts]: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [10pts]: Plasma gun [5pts]
. Sergeant [7pts]: Boltgun [2pts], Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 8x Guardsman [40pts]: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [10pts]: Plasma gun [5pts]
. Sergeant [7pts]: Boltgun [2pts], Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 8x Guardsman [40pts]: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [10pts]: Plasma gun [5pts]
. Sergeant [7pts]: Boltgun [2pts], Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 8x Guardsman [40pts]: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [10pts]: Plasma gun [5pts]
. Sergeant [7pts]: Boltgun [2pts], Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 8x Guardsman [40pts]: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [10pts]: Plasma gun [5pts]
. Sergeant [7pts]: Boltgun [2pts], Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. 8x Guardsman [40pts]: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [10pts]: Plasma gun [5pts]
. Sergeant [7pts]: Boltgun [2pts], Chainsword

+ Elites [6 PL, 95pts] +

Platoon Commander [2 PL, 25pts]: Frag grenades, Laspistol

Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 35pts]: Laspistol, Omnissan Axe, Servo-arm

Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 35pts]: Laspistol, Omnissan Axe, Servo-arm

+ Fast Attack [9 PL, 150pts] +

Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 50pts]
. Armoured Sentinel [3 PL, 50pts]: Lascannon [20pts]

Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 50pts]
. Armoured Sentinel [3 PL, 50pts]: Lascannon [20pts]

Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 50pts]
. Armoured Sentinel [3 PL, 50pts]: Lascannon [20pts]

+ Heavy Support [34 PL, 660pts] +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 190pts]: Emperor's Fist
. Leman Russ Executioner [10 PL, 190pts]: Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Bolters [30pts], Stat Damage (Leman Russ), Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon [15pts]

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 190pts]: Emperor's Fist
. Leman Russ Executioner [10 PL, 190pts]: Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Bolters [30pts], Stat Damage (Leman Russ), Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon [15pts]

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter [15pts], Stat Damage (HS), 4x Storm Eagle Rockets

Wyverns [6 PL, 135pts]: Stat Damage (HS)
. Wyvern [6 PL, 135pts]: Heavy Bolter [15pts], Wyven Quad Stormshard Mortar

+ Dedicated Transport [12 PL, 200pts] +

Chimera [6 PL, 100pts]: Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Stubber [5pts], 2x Lasgun Arrays, Stat Damage (Chimera)

Chimera [6 PL, 100pts]: Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Bolter [15pts], Heavy Stubber [5pts], 2x Lasgun Arrays, Stat Damage (Chimera)

++ Total: [107 PL, 11CP, 1,994pts] ++

You should check with your Tournament Organizer that the Specialist Detachments are legal. They have officially been removed from the tournament scene, but maybe your TO will allow it

Astropaths.

They have character rule to protect them -- so you can tuck one into a chimera with the troops and leave it near the tank and the 10 man squad, making 3 layers the enemey has to shoot off the forward objective. And, if oyu pick malstrom (for example) you can plink mortal wounds whilel stripping enemy cover.

Either of those justifies an astropath in this edition, I think. Especially having a few officers to sprinkle around (for example, you can park an armored sentinal and an astropath on a far back objective. Now the enemy can get you off it, if they rEALLY want to shoot the armored sentinal, but suddenly, that sucker uses the strategem for half damage, and is situated carefully inside the right spot for -1 to be hit cover, and while its still there, the astropath (which can give it a +1 save) isn't targetable.

The enemy might well get you off that objective -- but you can bet if they do, they used enough firepower and attention taht a leman russ lived another round.

Nice. Yes I have shed a tear for the Hammer of Sunderance and moved on.

Definitely including astropaths from here on.

I wouldn't make a tank your warlord, as they aren't protected by the character rule, you'd lose the slay tge warlord points quickly if your opponent has a lascannon heavy list, just my 2 cents (unless of course you have a specific plan that requires him to be the warlord)

I don't suppose you have a pair of vendetta models lying around somwhere?
They are like a flying leman russ with 12 cargo transport for 245 points -- compared to the actual leman russes in the heavy support part of the list, you got basically the chimera + the tank, only its got some minus to be hit and 6 lascannons/2heavy bolters.

(I am just mulling in my head this idea for my own list, actually)
When you think about it, 12 lascannon firing at bs4+ (and even at bs4+/reroll 1 if you buy an officer of the fleet to plop down) AND an alpha strike where you can fly up to the enemy and drop your troops to immediately shoot, that's a pretty interesting upgrade against a bunch of ground armor that may or may not be able to get around obstacles on the ground.

So as terriying as this is, I am gonna post another list that you inspired! (see other post!)

Thanks on the tank warlord comment.

Actually Duke I have 2 Valks in boxes I need to build... Shouldn't be hard to get the las cannon mods to upgrade.

Looking forward to see what you came up with!

Shouldn't be hard to make your valkyries into magnetic cross with vendetta, either -- don't limit yourself to the one choice. Its quite possible when the new codex for vendetta comes out htat choice will suddenly seem worse, or better, than it is now.