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I'm looking to get into Tau, and please will you give me any advice on this list I'm working on?

I really appreciate it, been online for a while now doing research etc
Thank You!

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++ Outrider Detachment -3CP (T'au Empire) ++

Battle Size: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Sept Choice
. Custom Sept: Gifted Pilots, Hardened Warheads

+ HQ +

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit: 6. Exemplar of the Mont'ka, 4x Fusion blaster, Warlord

Commander Shadowsun: 2x High-energy fusion blaster, MV62 Command-link Drone

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system, Amplified ion accelerator, Ion accelerator, Velocity tracker

XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit: 2x Flamer, Advanced targeting system, Cyclic ion raker, 2x MV5 Stealth Drone, Shield generator

+ Fast Attack +

Tactical Drones
. 8x MV4 Shield Drone: 8x Shield generator

Tactical Drones
. 8x MV4 Shield Drone: 8x Shield generator

Tetra Scout Speeder Team
. 2x Tetra Scout Speeder: 2x High intensity markerlight, 4x Pulse rifle

+ Heavy Support +

XV107 R'varna Battlesuit: Advanced targeting system, Multi-tracker

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
. Broadside Shas'ui: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system
. Broadside Shas'vre: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system

+ Flyer +

AX39 Sun Shark Bomber: Missile pod, 2x Seeker missile
. 2x MV17 Interceptor Drone: 4x Ion rifle

Hey, just to mention, tau detachment can only have one commander in matched play games, otherwise the list is looking good

ATS on the Riptide with the relic ion is IMHO a waste of points.
Your giving up 3 CP to avoid taking 135 points of troops?

Also Shadowsuns Mont'ka wont effect anyone else as it's sept locked to Tau sept untill GW fix that.

Your especially going to struggle IMHO with taking objectives from your opponent, Tau generally have a big issue with this but your list feels like it designed to stay back and try and hit hard enough, but I don't think that will ever work in 9th missions.

Some problems, firstly you can't have tau sept if you have custom traits, it's one or the other. As pointed out you can't have two commanders in a detachment unless you are farsight enclave.

In terms of the list, drop the tetras and sunsharks, they are bad. I'd consider dropping the rvanna too, way too expensive. In 9th the main goal is objectives, sitting back and shooting won't work very well anymore.

Get some troops and consider the possibility not getting more mobility.

I am very grateful for the tips, thank you



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Okay, I've worked hard on things, and tho I do like the relic Ion gun on the Riptide, and will *want* to field the sunshark due to just keeping it a lil fun (replaced with drones in Competitive lol)...


Here is what I'm looking at now, going Farsight and well... what do you think??

I thank you for your assistance, i wont keep asking on this, just hoping maybe if you have anything more to say... Thanks!

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+++ auz (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [102 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] +++

++ Outrider Detachment -3CP (T'au Empire) ++

Sept Choice: Farsight Enclaves

+ HQ +

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit: 6. Exemplar of the Mont'ka, 4x Fusion blaster, Warlord

Commander Shadowsun: 2x High-energy fusion blaster, MV62 Command-link Drone

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Amplified ion accelerator, Early Warning Override, Ion accelerator, Velocity tracker

XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit: 2x Flamer, Drone Controller, Cyclic ion raker, 2x MV5 Stealth Drone, Shield generator

+ Fast Attack +

Tactical Drones
. 10x MV1 Gun Drone: 20x Pulse carbine

Tactical Drones
. 10x MV4 Shield Drone: 10x Shield generator

XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit: Advanced targeting system, Counterfire defence system

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Gun Drone Squadron
. 5x Heavy Gun Drone w/ BC & Markerlight: 5x Burst cannon, 5x Markerlight

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
. Broadside Shas'ui: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system
. Broadside Shas'vre: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system

+ Flyer +

AX39 Sun Shark Bomber: Missile pod, 2x Seeker missile
. 2x MV17 Interceptor Drone: 4x Ion rifle

Again I would say why ATS on the Y'vharra it's already-2 &-3 AP.

Personally don't rate Shadowsun's rules outside of Tau sept.

Don't like 10 man drone squads, the are only Ld6

Still no obsec, all it takes is 1 custode/intercessor etc take all the objectives from you and you'll be down 30VP vrs your opponents and that's not really recoverable in 9th.

I am grateful for the advice.

I'm working on including Firewarriors in the list, will practice with them to see their strengths (on paper I don't like'm, but yes, they are a pivotal role as TROOPS on the battlefield).

I can see your logic in the ten man drone squadrons w/ their Ld6, to get a good amount of drones on the table is important too... so run with those 2 man packs, 4 or 5 tops?

I was considering doing the thing where I smash people off a key objective... but in truth why not do both and eat that cake too eh?

I get around the 3 FA slots issue when I run my Y'vharra by taking a crisis suit team as each suit is allowed upto 2 drones. Allows you to sneak in that 3rd 5/6 drone unit. When you don't have the slot

Ice Can, nice moves!

Crisis right now are bleh tho, right?

I'm trying to take to your advice as best i can (while still having a sunshark lol, for which i can swap if i gotta get into a real list, not one just 'competitive' but friendly)

________________________+++ THE Tau (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [103 PL, 12CP, 1,999pts] +++

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (T'au Empire) ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Sept Choice: Farsight Enclaves

+ HQ +

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit: 6. Exemplar of the Mont'ka, 4x Fusion blaster, Warlord
. 2x MV4 Shield Drone: 2x Shield generator

Commander Shadowsun: 2x High-energy fusion blaster, MV62 Command-link Drone

+ Troops +

Breacher Team: MV36 Guardian Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse blaster
. 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Pistol: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse blaster, 4x Pulse pistol
. MV4 Shield Drone

Kroot Carnivores
. 16x Kroot: 16x Kroot rifle

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Amplified ion accelerator, Drone controller, Ion accelerator, Velocity tracker

XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit: 2x Flamer, Cyclic ion raker, Multi-tracker, 2x MV5 Stealth Drone, Shield generator

+ Fast Attack +

Kroot Hounds
. 4x Kroot Hound: 4x Ripping fangs

XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit
. 2x MV52 Shield Drone: 2x MV52 Shield Generator

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Gun Drone Squadron
. 3x Heavy Gun Drone w/ 2BC: 6x Burst cannon

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
. Broadside Shas'ui: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system
. Broadside Shas'vre: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system
. 4x MV4 Shield Drone: 4x Shield generator

+ Flyer +

AX39 Sun Shark Bomber: Missile pod, 2x Seeker missile
. 2x MV17 Interceptor Drone: 4x Ion rifle



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Decided I don't need markerlights in this list, unit by unit going down finding ... huh, where i might want them, Farsight Enclaves already gives them



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Unless the broadsides and Riptide DOOOO need that kind of support??
What do you think, pls?

And thank you

Kroot and hounds are in cuz like, they gunna die anywhys right?
Maybe i can pull cute Breacher/Kroot/Hounds tactics on the lesser weakling units they push forwards with


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Aerial Targeting (-1CP) would give that reroll 1's to the burst drones and broadsides and riptide if anything was out of the CC range I'm expecting half the time now in this edition



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Insane Bravery (-2CP) for the times when i really need a unit to not die to morale lol

Farsight can make one unit work with CP and strategums,

The Greater Good PA Book took Farsight from yeah not a good enough subfaction trait to better trait plus new relics, strategums.

To be fair I haven't got the chance to get many 9th games in yet a few but TAU arn't my only army.