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So this kind of moved more into an epic 30k thread which is always good.

Renamed and repurposed it.

Now for showing off what you’ve done and projects.

Enjoy!

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Yep you have found it Jackal90 you are in the right place.

There are links for Astartes units along the bottom (it's not very easy to spot, also have some links to Legion-specific, Titans, Mechanicum etc)
http://epicau.com/mw/index.php/Main_Page
http://epicau.com/mw/index.php/Legion_Astartes_Reference_Sheet

Can I ask what army you are planning on collecting and what minis you are using etc?

I am collecting Crusade-era World Eaters so would be interested to see what you are up to!

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Thanks Pacific.
I clicked the links at the bottom but assumed they were just page links between what I was already viewing.
Apparently not haha.

I already have a salamanders army with Vulkan I’d built ages ago (I use regular SM or NE rules for them) so the army isn’t an issue.
Means I can add proper heresy era stuff though.

Most of it that I add will either be 3D printed or from vanguard/onslaught since they make some ideal stuff.


Also plan on a mechanicum army.
All the robots will be printed, as with tanks.
The basic infantry and characters will be from vanguard though as they are perfect.
Really can’t sing their praises enough.
Think I’ve spent around £400+ with them to now and never had a single issue or bad model.

Onslaught always tends to have a few poor casts so I order extra.
   
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Just be aware that there are some oddities in the unit entries that are just outright brainfarts (like Leviathan dreadnoughts having weapon options that are straight up worse than others, Basilisks moving faster than jump troops...) as well as bits that look like work in progress writeups that never got finished (most marine superheavies not having critical hit effects, which is... odd).

In general the lists are good fun, my mechanized XIV is in a happy place with them and I'll probably branch out to Mechanicum later on, too. Haven't yet tried their titans, as the EpicUK list seems to have more teeth in it for that purpose.

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I know what you mean Jackal Vanguard do do some lovely stuff, love that they are doing the different armour types now as well.
I believe there are some other specialised ones coming too (Sherrypie there are some very DG-looking, gas-mask type ones due to be released if they haven't already I believe)

Would love to see some pics of your guys stuff! Then change the title of this thread so it just says (epic) 30k rules

I've got a thread over in P&M, world's slowest blog it's now on about 4 years and counting but I add bits and pieces when I can (usually when Vanguard brings something new out)
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page

Ultimate epic dream is to have a 12ft wide table, tens of thousands of points on the board, a half a dozen titans on each side (so just something not too grand!)

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I just have a huge love for epic.
Got into it around the original SM times and it’s never really left.
For me it just looks like proper battles on a huge scale.

I may start an epic blog soon as I’m also working on my tyranids and some knights, but not really enough yet to show anything of value sadly.



Here’s all I have complete so far:








Got a long way to go yet.

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@Pacific: Ha, I doubt I need more DG infantry for the time being given that the army is already pushing towards 12k+ points and I've got both some two hundred 3d printed footsloggers and yet more ancient plastic marines still waiting to be readied
And since most things have to be converted, even in 6 mm, it's not like that queue is getting shorter too soon.

Some pictures then, click them bigger to actually see something:

Group pictures before the latest additions:












Currently painting Sicarans, too many Basilisks, drop pods and other things...

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I need to pick up some minotaur tanks and a falchion or 2 if I can find one.

Plan is to get my tyranids finished while I gather up the mechanicum stuff I need.
   
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Minotaurs are interesting, tougher Basilisks with a smaller footprint that can fire pretty much anywhere. I intend to park one or two batteries between two air cover turret packs and try to keep the pressure off them by throwing a wall of robots further up the field when I eventually get around to building a dark horde of tendrite-toting machine lovers.

The Mechanicum list is surprisingly heavy on barrage weapons, with Minotaurs, Thanatars, Karaknos and Ordinatus detachments all spewing forth plates of doom all over the place.

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Guys, I am lost for words. Those are some absolutely beautiful looking collections, almost brought a tear to my eye

Sherrypie I am guessing that is possibly the biggest pre-heresy Legion force in existence! Certainly the largest I have seen in my travels.
Most impressive.

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Oh I doubt that, Pacific, there are some crazy guys in France putting together huge collections (though I do agree this project is already the size of like three armies and keeps on growing, as small scale minis are just a pleasure to work with).

It is big enough, though, that I could probably have a me vs. rest of the club megabattle one of these days


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Bweh, got some painting on the way (still have to finish the men and put them into the Basilisks as crew):

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3D printing has only made my epic addiction worse.
Plan was to build a small 4K tyranid army and get it painted.

Issue is, printing is faster than my painting and I keep changing my list.
So a 4K tyranid army is now at around 8k and still growing as I find more cool stuff.
   
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Those look awesome Sherrypie.
It sounds like there is potential for a massive trans-national get-together of Pre-Heresy once the current madness is over!

Jackal90 - can I ask what service you are using for 3D printing, or do you make your own?
I have found some great designs online but haven't yet taken the plunge.

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 Pacific wrote:
Those look awesome Sherrypie.
It sounds like there is potential for a massive trans-national get-together of Pre-Heresy once the current madness is over!

Jackal90 - can I ask what service you are using for 3D printing, or do you make your own?
I have found some great designs online but haven't yet taken the plunge.



Currently I’m just using a friends Elegoo Mars as I helped him get it set up and sorted.
However, I’m still waiting on mine to arrive.

If you love epic then I honestly couldn’t recommend a printer enough.
It makes things so much more simple.
I need some exocrines? Around 20 hours and around £12 in resin and there’s 9 done in 1 go.
If I want the ugly metal slug versions from eBay? £60 for 9 if I can find them at that price.

Only downside to UV curing resin is that once set it’s like glass.
All my cuts and conversions are done with a very fine jewellery saw and a file so it doesn’t break.
   
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Yeah, resin printing is the way to go unless you really enjoy some specific metal designs like Vanguard's. Cheap and cheerful, as well as bloody crisp nowadays.

Of course it's still a bit of a hassle to do and a hobby of its own, but reaps so much benefits it's not even funny if one is going to invest in multiple / large armies.

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Thanks guys - I have definitely thought about it. As you say though Sherrypie it does look like a hobby of itself, and time is the one big limiting factor.
So I will have to settle for Vanguard (which I have to say do some fantastic stuff) and helping other designers and people pay off their printer purchase! Are there any good portals for buying minis or places that you would recommend?

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 Sherrypie wrote:
@Pacific: Ha, I doubt I need more DG infantry for the time being given that the army is already pushing towards 12k+ points and I've got both some two hundred 3d printed footsloggers and yet more ancient plastic marines still waiting to be readied
And since most things have to be converted, even in 6 mm, it's not like that queue is getting shorter too soon.

Some pictures then, click them bigger to actually see something:

Group pictures before the latest additions:












Currently painting Sicarans, too many Basilisks, drop pods and other things...


I love the Fellblades! Genuinely love those models. Half considering trying some homebrew superheavies as knight analogues in Adeptus Titanicus...

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Thanks locarno24, they are indeed lovely little blighters, both to look at as well as on the field of battle. Heavy enough to operate on their own instead of packs and absolutely devastating against lighter armour.

...though empirically quite capable of dying to intrepid grenadiers with shovels, to their eternal shame.

My go-to in Titanicus with superheavies would probably be as moving battlefield assets or knights with no shields but proper guns.

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Pacific - they pop up on eBay now and then.
Discord servers and forums are the most common place though as ebayers get banned almost instantly at times, so asking on there isn’t a bad idea.

Once I get mine and set it up I’m happy to help out if you need stuff though.

Settled for the mars pro as it’s just a little more tweaked and friendly to use than the regular.


Since you are in the UK too, printing services tend to be a bit of a gamble.
You can’t always guarantee the quality you will get and shipping is where they make their cash, so you get stung heavily for it.

For example, I found a UK service that offered to print my bio titans for me, for £15 plus £10 shipping.
I use about £4-5 of resin to make them myself now.
It honestly does make a drastic change.

It also gives you the freedom.
The setup and cleaning takes a little time but I just check in on my prints every 30 mins or so to make sure they haven’t slipped or died.


I debated buying one for ages.
Using a friends convinced me as it’s just so damn convenient.
So more trawling through eBay for days hunting specific parts, complete customisation etc.

Grab a rhino STL, remix it with a chapter symbol and place it as needed.
Instant chapter specific rhinos at about £1 a go.
   
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Thanks Jackal90 I will check those out!

locarno24 wrote:

I love the Fellblades! Genuinely love those models. Half considering trying some homebrew superheavies as knight analogues in Adeptus Titanicus...


Not tempted by going the full hog and getting a Legion to join those superheavies?

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 Sherrypie wrote:
Thanks locarno24, they are indeed lovely little blighters, both to look at as well as on the field of battle. Heavy enough to operate on their own instead of packs and absolutely devastating against lighter armour.

...though empirically quite capable of dying to intrepid grenadiers with shovels, to their eternal shame.

My go-to in Titanicus with superheavies would probably be as moving battlefield assets or knights with no shields but proper guns.


I've got some homebrew rules I'm looking at for Imperial Army, Legion, and Mechanicum units. AT is very much a 'big things game, so I'm not bothered about light units at the moment.

Falchion, Glaive and Fellblade is a nice trio of units, each of which plays very differently - Glaive is great at blowing out shields or (if you can catch a conga-line end on) gutting knight banners but does jack to a heavy engine. Falchion has.....I know the description says volcano cannons but a titan moderati would say "yeah, sure.....theyre cute lil' volcano cannons.." - it's basically a twin turbolaser, but the shock capacitors are useful. Finally, the Fellblade has the highest rate of Fire (if the demolished is in range) but AT shells and demo cannons are pretty decent at hurting armour.


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locarno24 wrote:
Falchion has.....I know the description says volcano cannons but a titan moderati would say "yeah, sure.....theyre cute lil' volcano cannons.." - it's basically a twin turbolaser, but the shock capacitors are useful.



One could think so, but traditionally Shadowswords (and Falchions being basically Shadowswords +1) have always been scary to titans as well. From Epic rules to heaps of lore, they are brutal tools even if they can't sustain the same rate of fire or make as big of a mess as a titan carried variant could.

The actual problem even here is the Acastus, with their out of proportion lascannons putting out too much pain when they should be on the level of turbolasers. Bloody murderturtles mess up the relative scaling of other guns ;P

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They are, but there are 'grades' of volcano cannon - a reaver's is distinctly less powerful than a warlords, and a shadowswords less powerful than both (true in both HH rules and 40k).

I've no problem with a superheavy's volcano cannon being strength 10 (as per a Reaver volcano cannon) - that's the minimum needed for a luck hit to be able to one-shot a knight, which it should be able to do - but (like the acastus porphyrion) there's no reason for it to get blast, when the turbolaser or gatling doesn't. As a side bonus, not having blast in AT allows you to aim, allowing for 'called shots'

There should definitely be limitations; traditionally (and in Guy Haley's excellent Baneblade/Stormlord/Shadowsword series), volcano-cannon armed superheavies had to stop to charge and fire their guns, which is why they're often shown as ambush predators. Making them only useable on first fire makes them challenging to use but a super-heavy company puts out a lot of anti-titan fire.

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I agree with all of that.

It was interesting that some systems, like Warhound plasma guns or Bombards, in Epic were limited to firing only every other turn even if the game usually only lasts about four turns. Something like that could be pretty fun with powerful titankiller tanks.

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I can't remember what the old epic rules were for Volcano Cannons and will need to check what they are currently in Epic Armageddon.

I do remember though that one of those things was on the board, you made sure you took it out as quickly as possible! Shot to the head or body and good night sweet titan.

Of course it helped that they weren't protected by void shields and were therefore more vulnerable (makes me think a little of using Tigers or Jadgtigers in some WW2 games, sometimes the 'threat' and fear that those weapons can instil on your opponent is actually worse than the damage the weapon will statistically deliver itself)

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This time it's time to say hello to my little friends at the Basilisk battery. Everything looks instantly much livelier when the crew is in place.










Also a better look at the Sicarians.




I'll need to play at least 6000 points to get all those Basilisks on the field, one day...

Regarding Volcanos, they're titan-killers (ignore both normal and reinforced saves), D3 damage if memory serves (Falchion's is D3+1). A trio of those can outright kill a titan that has lost its shields, if the dice get a bit hot.

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...that was about the only thing I never liked about epic Armageddon - not that it's 'wrong' but that it doesn't line up with other portayals - a TK (D3) weapon does D3 damage on a hit, and since voids block damage not hits, one volcano cannon drops multiple shields. (As opposed to dark eldar shadowfields which do stop hits)

It's still a waste not to save it till last because getting past a 4+ refilled armour is huge, but you can just lay into a titan with volcano shots: you don't really need to drop the shields first.

Loving the basilisks. I agree that where you've got open topped tanks, some generic crew helps the look hugely - Ice seen quite a few people add a crewman or tech-priest to the platform at the back of a warlord for that reason.

And yes, shadowswords have a very jagdpanther feel. I think the jagdtiger, by comparison, is probably the Ordinatus Saggitar - that beast is the size of a warhound and trades two 'scout titan' guns for a warlord-calibre 'sweet Jesus my face is melting' calibre bellicosa-pattern volcano cannon, but with its dispersion shields it should last long enough to fire it a few times....

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Yeah, but that's the price of abstraction when you want the game to incorporate everything from grots to titans while still differentiating between shields that block and shields that make you miss, basically.

If I want titans to feel properly titanic, I'll just play Titanicus. Accept no substitute

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Agreed. It still always amused me that epic still had more detail to titan on titan fights than 7th edition 40k.

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locarno24 wrote:
Agreed. It still always amused me that epic still had more detail to titan on titan fights than 7th edition 40k.


Ha. 40k's basic game engine is just utterly unsuitable for representing things that fall outside of its comfort zone, which is a platoon level clash with one or two support pieces. In 7th you at least had to bring the void shields down, in 8th's rushed version those were just another optional save on top of a big pile of hit points. Both felt flat, partly because the turn structure in conjunction with large forces still means the beginner blasts their opposition to smithereens instead of both exchanging punches between them. In Epic and AT there's a better balance of violence with alternating actions, prolicifation of threats around the field with army composition and more meaningful choices to be made than pointing in the relevant direction and letting fly.

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