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Decrepit Dakkanaut




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So I'm thinking on using some Puppetswar heads to swap out for both Lychguard and Praetorians, however with slow postage out of Poland and with the cost of postage being as much as one set of heads I'm keen to try and do an all-in-one order. Or at least cut down the number of orders as much as I can. So I'm curious at what rough number of each (and for each weapon type) you take in armies. I know that points and stats are changing for 9th edition, but in general the points are going up (so the number comes down a bit) and units aren't making a wholesale change in their role. So I'd wager we won't see vast shifts in the number that is valid/viable/works within a force.

I'm just after a rough idea to work with.

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You should start by building a list, or setting a number and play with them. Last might be easier as all list will be negated by the new codex.

   
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I'm not sure what they're doing to overhaul Reanimation Protocols, but assuming that it largely stays the same, big units of 10 seem to be the general way most people are running them so that you don't get wiped and lose out on free models coming back. Praetorians are only currently taking the voidblades and particle casters because of the extra attack it gives, but the newer profile leaks show that Rods of Covenant are now flat 2 Damage in both shooting and CC, so it depends on what your local meta is aimed towards. If you're facing a lot of marines then rods seem to be a more viable choice.

With regards to Lychguard, they did get an extra attack to their profile, but I feel like sword and board is still likely superior just because having an invuln against the plethora of AP-2 and better weapons is necessary, especially as necrons. Warscythes haven't been buffed as far as I can tell, so depending on the new points costs, shields are likely the safe bet. A block of lychguard with shields are good for holding objectives, especially if you pull off the Nihilakh strategem that gives them +1 to their saves.

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Might it not be better to see the new codex first?

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Warscythe lychguard didn't get buff so would still go for shield. Praetorians d2 weapon is easily superior weapon. Unless rp is changed dramatically would be going as big as you can afford

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




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 vipoid wrote:
Might it not be better to see the new codex first?


Aye, but at present I'm just getting an idea of their general numbers taken. I'm not expecting the codex to make a vast change to their points nor stats in away that would take them from, say. "Oh you only use 5 at a time" to "lets take 40".

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I'd go for units of 10 of either. Any fewer than that and they die too easily but with T5 and W2 taking 10 can make the opponent use a lot of firepower to shift them, especially if they're in cover.

Weapon options would probably be Rods for Praetorians with the new statline making it one of the few D2 weapons Necrons have and sword & board for the Lychguard to improve survivability (which saddens me since I have 10 with scythes).
   
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Slipspace wrote:
I'd go for units of 10 of either. Any fewer than that and they die too easily but with T5 and W2 taking 10 can make the opponent use a lot of firepower to shift them, especially if they're in cover.

Weapon options would probably be Rods for Praetorians with the new statline making it one of the few D2 weapons Necrons have and sword & board for the Lychguard to improve survivability (which saddens me since I have 10 with scythes).


I never got why it was all or nothing for Lychguard, if anything, you'd think they would allow a mix of shields and warscythes to give the idea of a phalanx with the shields in front and warscythe wielders in the back.
   
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I suspect to keep the rules for using the unit simpler. It's easier to use models when the unit has the same weapon profile and there's perhaps one leader who might only have one extra attack etc... As opposed to units with two totally different profiles.

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 Overread wrote:
I suspect to keep the rules for using the unit simpler. It's easier to use models when the unit has the same weapon profile and there's perhaps one leader who might only have one extra attack etc... As opposed to units with two totally different profiles.


I guess, but given that there's plenty of mixed weapon units that exist already, (i.e. Terminators with TH/SS and Lightning Claws, Custodes with Guardian Spears and guys with Sword+Board,Bullgryn with Slabshields or Brute Shields, etc.), I don't see how they'd be any more complicated. Given the lack of CC strats in general for Necrons, I don't see any broken combos either. I guess we'll see if they change that at all in the new codex.
   
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Rod Praetorians seem the way to go barring point costs now.

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Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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