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So GW unveiled the next books in line and 3/4 are marine supplements. The other one is still a power armor codex. I just don’t get how anyone could think that four variations of the same army is a good way to usher in the same edition. It’s a slap in the face to anyone who doesn’t play marines. At this point I’m not even in a hurry to see the CSM book just to encourage table variety.

Some other points of concern is that Death Guard looks like a separate bike meaning that Nurgle’s chosen are going to miss out on options again. Guess it’s too bad if you had any Death Guard bikers or havoks. Also anyone want to take a guess at the heavy intercessor price? 3 wound T5 troops sounds a little nuts.

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Well it's marine40k. What did you expect? Loyal marines is the master race and they will dominate release schedule. Rest are npc who have to be happy with scrubs.

There will sooner be moment when night doesn't follow day than gw not throwing marines over everything else

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 evil_kiwi_60 wrote:
So GW unveiled the next books in line and 3/4 are marine supplements. The other one is still a power armor codex. I just don’t get how anyone could think that four variations of the same army is a good way to usher in the same edition. It’s a slap in the face to anyone who doesn’t play marines. At this point I’m not even in a hurry to see the CSM book just to encourage table variety.

Some other points of concern is that Death Guard looks like a separate bike meaning that Nurgle’s chosen are going to miss out on options again. Guess it’s too bad if you had any Death Guard bikers or havoks. Also anyone want to take a guess at the heavy intercessor price? 3 wound T5 troops sounds a little nuts.


The follow ups are marine supplements, they're small 1 week jobs with no model support that use the marine codex. The first 3 codex for 9th are marines, necrons and death guard. Thats the most popular the worst and the oldest books. It's also an even spread across xenos, imperium and chaos.

But you can easily build a death guard army without a t4 3+ model in sight. They're visually and functionally very different to marines.
   
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Eh. I see it as getting them out of the way, and the DA will follow quickly early next year.
Personally, I see this is good, it gets them done, at the back end of a very strange year.

A Xenos army and Marines, followed by the little fiddly snowflakes and a Chaos army, and then, in early 2021, the last fiddly little snowflake and a different Xenos army.

That's actually a pretty good 40k release schedule for 5-6 months, which includes December (traditionally not much of a release month). Knocking blood angels, wolfs and deathwatch out in November/December is much better than dreading BA eating March, SW eating June and DW eating October of next year. Now we can just get on with things.

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Voss wrote:
Eh. I see it as getting them out of the way, and the DA will follow quickly early next year.
Personally, I see this is good, it gets them done, at the back end of a very strange year.


If 8th is anything to go by, it might not be 'getting them out of the way' so much as giving them the first release, and giving them another release later, with lots of mini-releases in between.

Remember that Marines were the only faction to get two codices during 8th, in addition to the smaller expansions for things like Phobos. I don't see any credible reason to think that GW's going to just get Marines 'done'.
   
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Csm did also get 2 dexes allbeit v2.0 was basically 1.1


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That's fair, my bad. I completely forgot about that one because so little actually changed.
   
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I'm still really irritated at the idea that I'm supposed to buy three SM codexes in four years.

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DG is a bit annoying based on how recent their PA was.

It does tell us DG and TS won't merge.

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 evil_kiwi_60 wrote:
So GW unveiled the next books in line and 3/4 are marine supplements. The other one is still a power armor codex. I just don’t get how anyone could think that four variations of the same army is a good way to usher in the same edition. It’s a slap in the face to anyone who doesn’t play marines. At this point I’m not even in a hurry to see the CSM book just to encourage table variety.

Some other points of concern is that Death Guard looks like a separate bike meaning that Nurgle’s chosen are going to miss out on options again. Guess it’s too bad if you had any Death Guard bikers or havoks. Also anyone want to take a guess at the heavy intercessor price? 3 wound T5 troops sounds a little nuts.


....... did they cancell the necron codex release? people act like the only thing 9th edition has had thus far is power armor releases.



also anyone expecting DG to be merged back into C:CSM was kidding themselves. the armies are VERY differant animals

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BrianDavion wrote:
....... did they cancell the necron codex release? people act like the only thing 9th edition has had thus far is power armor releases.


Giving some toys to one otherwise neglected faction isn't going to cure Marine Fatigue by itself if Marines are getting a comparable number of releases that seem far superior from the limited data we have.
   
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I know we all want to complain about so many muhreens at once, but this is clearly because of model release schedules. We're getting Necron and SM books along with Necron and SM model lines. They'll release the various other Xeno books alongside some new models.

DG is likely coming first because it only has a couple new models, whereas CSM will probably have the rest of their new range when it comes.

If they release books for other armies now, then either they're stuck with no model no rules, or they won't include new model's datasheets, and everyone will complain about that too.

It makes sense for them to dump out all the marine books as quickly as they can because the models are already getting released. Other books will follow when their models are up. Looking at how much they're expanding and refreshing the Necrons, we should be optimistic to see range refresh/expansions for other Xenos races too.

Of course, it would be best if they had digital rules online to hold us over until they're ready for the new books. But that's still apparently a bridge too far for GW. Until we get that, we shouldn't think that books being downstream of release schedules is some particular conspiracy to screw over Xenos.

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Looks like the usual whining is on queue.

*Complains about only marine releases*

*Ignores Necron codex and huge model release*

Seems standard enough.

   
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 Sentineil wrote:
Looks like the usual whining is on queue.

*Complains about only marine releases*

*Ignores Necron codex and huge model release*

Seems standard enough.


Yeah. Necrons are getting what may be the largest release of new models ever for a faction, and people are just totally oblivious to it.

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 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Sentineil wrote:
Looks like the usual whining is on queue.

*Complains about only marine releases*

*Ignores Necron codex and huge model release*

Seems standard enough.


Yeah. Necrons are getting what may be the largest release of new models ever for a faction, and people are just totally oblivious to it.


Marine Player Unable To Understand That People Do Not Play Necrons Or Space Marine Factions; Is Confused That People Are Unhappy They Have Received Nothing For Years, Find Out The Fifteen Reasons Why Inside This Thread

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These Necron releases are HUGE. Cant wait to see what they do with Eldar/DarkEldar/Tau/Chaos/Tyranids etc next year.
   
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 Eonfuzz wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Sentineil wrote:
Looks like the usual whining is on queue.

*Complains about only marine releases*

*Ignores Necron codex and huge model release*

Seems standard enough.


Yeah. Necrons are getting what may be the largest release of new models ever for a faction, and people are just totally oblivious to it.


Marine Player Unable To Understand That People Do Not Play Necrons Or Space Marine Factions; Is Confused That People Are Unhappy They Have Received Nothing For Years, Find Out The Fifteen Reasons Why Inside This Thread


ohhh I get it. People who call for Xenos to be given stuff aren't actually wanting GW to pay more attention to Xenos. they're just selfish little kids who stamp their feet and scream whenever a release isn't for them specificly. I getcha.


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 Alwrath wrote:
These Necron releases are HUGE. Cant wait to see what they do with Eldar/DarkEldar/Tau/Chaos/Tyranids etc next year.


See hwat?
   
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 Eonfuzz wrote:
 Alwrath wrote:
These Necron releases are HUGE. Cant wait to see what they do with Eldar/DarkEldar/Tau/Chaos/Tyranids etc next year.


See hwat?


GW's been revamping various lines over time for awhile now Eonfuzz. Chaos Marines, Sisters of Battle (the Ork buggy was replaced by 3 or 4 amazing looking new models,). Now Necrons. It's pretty obvious that GW is using space marine sales to fund revamps of other classic lines.

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Eonfuzz wrote:
 Alwrath wrote:
These Necron releases are HUGE. Cant wait to see what they do with Eldar/DarkEldar/Tau/Chaos/Tyranids etc next year.


See hwat?


GW's been revamping various lines over time for awhile now Eonfuzz. Chaos Marines, Sisters of Battle (the Ork buggy was replaced by 3 or 4 amazing looking new models,). Now Necrons. It's pretty obvious that GW is using space marine sales to fund revamps of other classic lines.


> Various lines
Literally only Marines and Sisters of Battle

3-4 buggy mono-sculpts are *not* a revamp.

If they were, then it looks like marhreens have had 10+ revamps over the last 2 years, lmfao.

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 Eonfuzz wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Sentineil wrote:
Looks like the usual whining is on queue.

*Complains about only marine releases*

*Ignores Necron codex and huge model release*

Seems standard enough.


Yeah. Necrons are getting what may be the largest release of new models ever for a faction, and people are just totally oblivious to it.


Marine Player Unable To Understand That People Do Not Play Necrons Or Space Marine Factions; Is Confused That People Are Unhappy They Have Received Nothing For Years, Find Out The Fifteen Reasons Why Inside This Thread


"We want more Xenos releases"

GW: "Okay, here's a giant remake of Necrons!"

"N-no...not THOSE Xenos."

And I'm not a marine player.

Quite a few model ranges have been modernized since I started playing in late 4th, and they aren't all Marines. Currently, Orks, Eldar, and Guard are left behind with many very out of date lines. In the past, model releases were a trickle. But in the last couple of years, we're seeing model releases speed up a huge amount, culminating in the smaller scale releases like AdMech last year still being a bunch of models, and now we're seeing massive releases for Necrons and SM. If we want to see those left behind factions get big refreshes and also new units on par with more up to date factions, we should all be celebrating this change. Instead we've got people whining that GW is also investing into the future of their most popular factions and subfactions.

If this big Necron release wasn't happening, you'd have a point. But it is.

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Right, so. . . Release schedule is:

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines

And people are really hyperbolically characterizing opinions that are complaining about this? Like, really? Especially when the supplements aren't required to play a faction?




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 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
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 Eonfuzz wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Sentineil wrote:
Looks like the usual whining is on queue.

*Complains about only marine releases*

*Ignores Necron codex and huge model release*

Seems standard enough.


Yeah. Necrons are getting what may be the largest release of new models ever for a faction, and people are just totally oblivious to it.


Marine Player Unable To Understand That People Do Not Play Necrons Or Space Marine Factions; Is Confused That People Are Unhappy They Have Received Nothing For Years, Find Out The Fifteen Reasons Why Inside This Thread


"We want more Xenos releases"

GW: "Okay, here's a giant remake of Necrons!"

"N-no...not THOSE Xenos."

And I'm not a marine player.

Quite a few model ranges have been modernized since I started playing in late 4th, and they aren't all Marines. Currently, Orks, Eldar, and Guard are left behind with many very out of date lines. In the past, model releases were a trickle. But in the last couple of years, we're seeing model releases speed up a huge amount, culminating in the smaller scale releases like AdMech last year still being a bunch of models, and now we're seeing massive releases for Necrons and SM. If we want to see those left behind factions get big refreshes and also new units on par with more up to date factions, we should all be celebrating this change. Instead we've got people whining that GW is also investing into the future of their most popular factions and subfactions.


If this big Necron release wasn't happening, you'd have a point. But it is.

"Yeah man you get one xenos release for every four marine ones, stop complaining, F U."

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 Insectum7 wrote:
Right, so. . . Release schedule is:

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines

And people are really hyperbolically characterizing opinions that are complaining about this? Like, really? Especially when the supplements aren't required to play a faction?



No, the releases are:

Marines
Xenos, and a bigger wave than the marines.

The supplements are not replacing a Xenos codex release, because codex releases are determined by model releases. If they weren't releasing the supplements, you'd still not be getting anything.

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 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
Right, so. . . Release schedule is:

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines

And people are really hyperbolically characterizing opinions that are complaining about this? Like, really? Especially when the supplements aren't required to play a faction?



No, the releases are:

Marines
Xenos, and a bigger wave than the marines.

The supplements are not replacing a Xenos codex release, because codex releases are determined by model releases. If they weren't releasing the supplements, you'd still not be getting anything.


Did you just try to disagree with what he said, but at the same time agreed it was all marines?

Okay.
   
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 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
Right, so. . . Release schedule is:

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines

And people are really hyperbolically characterizing opinions that are complaining about this? Like, really? Especially when the supplements aren't required to play a faction?



No, the releases are:

Marines
Xenos, and a bigger wave than the marines.

The supplements are not replacing a Xenos codex release, because codex releases are determined by model releases. If they weren't releasing the supplements, you'd still not be getting anything.
List for me the next books coming out.

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 Eonfuzz wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
Right, so. . . Release schedule is:

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines

And people are really hyperbolically characterizing opinions that are complaining about this? Like, really? Especially when the supplements aren't required to play a faction?



No, the releases are:

Marines
Xenos, and a bigger wave than the marines.

The supplements are not replacing a Xenos codex release, because codex releases are determined by model releases. If they weren't releasing the supplements, you'd still not be getting anything.


Did you just try to disagree with what he said, but at the same time agreed it was all marines?

Okay.


Did you just ignore a really important distinction just so you can keep complaining?

Okay.


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 Insectum7 wrote:
List for me the next books coming out.


You know we don't know them.

I would predict that we'll see books that aren't coming with big releases come out pretty fast, with the next big model wave starting in the spring to update one of the most deficient factions. Chaos Marines will probably get a moderate model release to continue their ongoing range refresh, perhaps before that.

I'll repeat: If the supplements weren't coming out, you still wouldn't be seeing Xenos range refreshes yet. Models and Books are different departments.

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I hope this all means they will just churn out all the SM books over the next 6 months(supplament or codex is the same thing to people who get neither..) and not drag this out any more.. People to play indomitus heresy 42k with their marines in peace for the next year while everyone keeps playing warhammer 40k 9th edition with their npc factions.

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 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
List for me the next books coming out.


You know we don't know them.


From GW: "there are four more books planned for this year alone! Among them are three codex supplements designed to ensure that those Chapters who are the most divergent from the Codex Astartes aren’t left behind, along with an update to the oldest of the Heretic Astartes codexes."

Plus
"Dark Angels fans won’t have to wait much longer – your codex supplement will be on its way early next year, along with the first xenos codex of 2021."

So yes. . . we do know them.

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines
Bad Marines
Marines
Xenos

The order might be a little off, but we do know what the next releases are.

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 Insectum7 wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
List for me the next books coming out.


You know we don't know them.


From GW: "there are four more books planned for this year alone! Among them are three codex supplements designed to ensure that those Chapters who are the most divergent from the Codex Astartes aren’t left behind, along with an update to the oldest of the Heretic Astartes codexes."

Plus
"Dark Angels fans won’t have to wait much longer – your codex supplement will be on its way early next year, along with the first xenos codex of 2021."

So yes. . . we do know them.

Marines
Xenos
Marines
Marines
Marines
Bad Marines
Marines
Xenos

The order might be a little off, but we do know what the next releases are.


I assume you meant beyond what they've already said.
How long are you going to ignore this:

I'll repeat: If the supplements weren't coming out, you still wouldn't be seeing Xenos range refreshes yet. Models and Books are different departments.

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