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2020/09/13 12:01:55
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I can’t speak to the rules as no codex and nothing to compare against but I have to give GW credit that they got the new models right. Back when psychic awakening started I was hoping for a new C’Tan and really hoped they took some of that AOS modelling and applied it here and they certainly have done. The new Ctan is a great example, as is the new Psychomancer (although initial rules seem a little poop).
I only wish they didn’t make the Canopteks so rubbish (in my opinion) as both the old and new are great looking models.
I think they are quite limited for marines, with their gloried flying land raider looks and more “normal’ design aesthetic whilst I hope the Xenos get the AOS modelling treatment with some dynamic, alien and somewhat ‘active’ sculpts (like Szeras sucking life force from his victims). I see AOS Bonereapers as the test for Necrons (you have to admit they have some striking resemblances) therefore the question is whether the new Aelf releases will transfer over to Aeldari.....
Finally plastic flayed ones. About time!
Downside being, I expect a nerf to come for reanimating protocols :(. One of the chapter tactics has a 5+ FNP - no way you let an army have that, access to a 5++ and the ability to reanimate every turn. I think they will limit it to the old rule of 1 attempt and that’s it.
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2020/09/13 12:07:20
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Wicked Wych With a Whip
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And IMO that's the most important aspect of the game, loving your army, the models, the lore... not the rules.
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The Bloody Sails
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2020/09/13 12:10:11
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Denegaar wrote:And IMO that's the most important aspect of the game, loving your army, the models, the lore... not the rules.
Agreed. Rules change and metas shift.
But the models in your hand, the homebrew lore that you have for them? GW can't take that from you. That's why my advice is nearly always "pick the army that you think looks the best, or the one easiest for you", because I can modify the game on the fly.
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2020/09/13 12:14:09
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I think the Silent King looks suitably impressive. I'm not a fan of the other new models though. Not to say that they're not nice models, I think I just don't like the aesthetic.
That's OK though, I don't need to like every army in the 40k range
Good news for my wallet too.
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2020/09/13 12:15:56
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I didn't see the new C'tan but would be interested! So far impressed with what I saw.
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2020/09/13 12:36:42
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Bamberg / Erlangen
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Huge fan of the Necron models. If I had pants on during the reveal yesterday, I would have changed them at least once.
Really looking forward to what they will do with other armies, once they are redoing them.
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2020/09/13 12:52:41
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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The Flayed Ones look really great.
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2020/09/13 13:07:55
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sumilidon wrote:One of the chapter tactics has a 5+ FNP - no way you let an army have that, access to a 5++ and the ability to reanimate every turn. I think they will limit it to the old rule of 1 attempt and that’s it.
The first part of the Szarekhan ability? That was only a save against Mortal Wounds, not a general FNP/Invulnerable save.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/09/13 13:19:41
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Battleship Captain
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The skorpekh destroyers are dumb. I know H.G Wells made alien tripods cool but they still impractical and silly. I also dislike the Silent King looking like a normal overlord but with a bigger hat and cape and two literal nobodies hitchhiking. I'll be converting it with AoS ghost bits.
Everything else looks fine. The only models I've been REALLY impressed by have been the Flayed Ones and Ophydian Destroyers. I didn't like the egyptian look they tried to push in their reboot and glad the new models moved away from it, cryptek mega-chins not withstanding.
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2020/09/13 13:22:19
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Dakka Veteran
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Necron's have one of the best ranges in the game if not THE best right now, imo. Amazing sculpts and so much character in everything now, and a great overall feel to the army.
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2020/09/13 13:47:30
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The new Necron range is gorgeous! I'd only just decided on restarting my own army after a break since third and picked up the Outrider detachment at Christmas.
Delighted with the sculpts and the four new destroyer types all look great.
The new releases have left me a bit undecided though; do I continue the classic silver and green of my original army and expand it, or do I do something entirely new and move away from the green glow...
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2020/09/13 14:41:45
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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I agree. Everything they've done so far has been a home run for me and I'm not even a Necron player or collector.
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2020/09/13 14:53:02
Subject: Re:Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Dakka Veteran
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The new Crons look good, mostly- "special effects" aside. I would have preferred sticking with the rods- they added a distinctive "different" and fun look to them. The noses on the new warriors are a tad "off." I greatly dislike the impractical blades on the destroyers, and the choice to give vicious melee troops tripod legs to make them a stable firing platform.
I love that the snakey dudes resemble the original wraiths so much- they could have gone one step further and just re-relased them in plastic, but hey. I'll be looking to pick some up cheaply, for sure. I'll need to chop off those "weak spots," though...
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2020/09/13 15:36:11
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Sumilidon wrote:
Downside being, I expect a nerf to come for reanimating protocols :(. One of the chapter tactics has a 5+ FNP - no way you let an army have that, access to a 5++ and the ability to reanimate every turn. I think they will limit it to the old rule of 1 attempt and that’s it.
Pretty hard to nerf rule that's so bad might as well not exists. Indeed remove it and make everything point cheaper and you would buff necrons.
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2020/09/13 15:37:15
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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I'm surprised that the flayed ones and the Ophidian(?) destroyers take heavy influences from the old 3rd edition models. People can use their old wraiths now again (I mean, of course they could use them as wraiths still but one has to admit that the design change between old and new wraiths was pretty significant) and the goofy failcast-flayed ones are best forgotten, while the older metal flayed ones will look good next to the new plastic ones.
The only thing I'm not really sold on are the three legged/Armed destroyers. These look very strange to me.
And the classic flying destroyers should be probably replaced, too, as they'll probably look a bit strange next to all the new stuff (knowing GW I wouldn't be surprised to see them sold for the next 5 years, though). I know there's the new Lokhust heavy destroyer that COULD get a non-heavy weapon option but I don't think that has been said for now.
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2020/09/13 16:06:52
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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GW has always liked re-using older designs and bringing them into the modern light of miniature design. Heck even much of the new stuff is based on designs made way back decades ago - look at the new Necron Heavy Destroyer - its based off some of the early concept art when Necrons were brand new.
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2020/09/13 16:13:43
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Still no Pariahs.
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2020/09/13 16:15:33
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Flayed Ones are an amazing throwback to those amazing metal models.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/09/13 16:20:31
Subject: Re:Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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I gotta admit, despite not being a Necron player, I'm sorely tempted to pick up one or two of the new range just for the painting. Particularly that Psychomancer.
I fully appreciate some people won't like it, and will see it as a bit over-the-top... but I *LOVE* that floating skull hologram thing!!
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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2020/09/13 17:49:50
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Walking Dead Wraithlord
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I like the silent king. He really seems like he just wants people to build him a pyramid.. dig the chunky destroyers and even tripod lord has grown on me.
However the snakey destroyers/characters dont work for me. Their "body" just looks pitifully too thin.
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2020/09/13 18:03:07
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Dakka Veteran
Vihti, Finland
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I think the Oph... snake destroyers would go better if they would go with only 2 limbs with threshers and forget about those blades. It would really make it much more simplistic to go with.
Although that is the only new necron units that has come/coming up that I don't find appealing. Others are really cool and has actually made me wonder should I go necrons.
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2020/09/13 18:12:14
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Terrifying Doombull
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Sotahullu wrote:I think the Oph... snake destroyers would go better if they would go with only 2 limbs with threshers and forget about those blades. It would really make it much more simplistic to go with.
The blades give the unit more anti-infantry ability than the Skorpekhs.
Without them, they're a slightly faster but significantly weaker unit than their tripod buddies.
They may still overlap too much as it is, but taking those blades away makes them fairly pointless.
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2020/09/13 19:06:15
Subject: Re:Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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There is nothing I can say negative about the new Necron models. They are beautiful.
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2020/09/13 19:10:17
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Annandale, VA
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The new Flayed Ones are perfect. Absolutely perfect. I really disliked the Finecast ones they replaced, and considered going on eBay to get some old pewter ones, but the new plastics absolutely nail the look.
I also really like the new Destroyer with the snake-body basically being an update/re-imagining of the classic Wraith design.
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2020/09/13 20:01:48
Subject: Give GW credit, they got the Necrons right (modelling)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am not thrilled by the Psychomancer, morale shenanigans never really pay off. I do like the Chronomancer, I like the targeted 9” real 5++ as opposed to a aura. I started in 7th so I missed out, but it seems like they are also throwing back to the days when crypteks had much more variety.
Also like the new old wraith destroyers. Hopefully points work out, but we have a lot of melee options now.
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