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Zealous Shaolin





France

It goes fast and furious indeed !!

Izabela is bsolutely awesome !!

1°) On september 26th, I sent her a demand about the very last minis I still missing (I never got any answers from jarek, michal, the official prodos email, even the official webstore email).

Personnally, I'm lucky enough to still miss only the cloaked predators, tokens predators, and the predette but I know that many backers aren't so lucky.


2°) On october 2nd, I received the following :


Hello there,

I can send the missing items asap.

Is it alright?

Best regards, Izabela

--
Izabela Stawicka-Pipowska
Customer Service
Deskphone +48 673533839
website http://prodosgames.com
e-mail sales@prodosgames.com
twitter @prodosgames
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Instagram https://instagram.com/prodosgamesltd/



3°) I immediately answered that all would be fine, thanking her a lot and on October 3rd, I received the following :

Hi there XXX,

No problem- I am here to help.

Your stuff should arrive in two weeks (if not faster) .

Please let me know then if everything is ok.

Best regards, Izabela.



4°) One more time I thank her a lot for her fast answer and today here is what I receive :

Hello there XXX,

Here is direct link to your parcel tracking data:

(she gives me the link to the tracking from Poland)

Best regards, Izabela

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Wow !!! So fast after many years of... of nothing indeed ?! In about a week, Izabela fixed a situation where this jarek never been capable to do so months after months...

Thank you so much my Dear Izabela. Really. Thank you so so much !!

Serviteur,

Morikun


   
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And at least, this is the end for me.

Izabela send me my very last stuff :



Note that this is "Archon" the sender...








I've written a whole summing up about all this mess :

https://letempledemorikun.blogspot.fr/2017/10/alien-versus-predator-hunt-begins-by.html

I'm lucky enough having received 100% of my pledge and I hope that you would get the same.

Don't hesitate to contact Izabela, she's very kind and very professional indeed.

Serviteur,

Morikun




   
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So it only took 4 years (to the day) from when the campaign started? Niiice...

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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
So it only took 4 years (to the day) from when the campaign started? Niiice...


Yeah, and for some of us it isn't over yet....the very polite Izabela has informed me that I will be getting my last £100 worth of minis but most of that is alt/add-on marines. Which haven't been produced yet. And when I asked what scale these marines are I was told 1st ed and 2nd ed marines were the same scale. WTF. I can't help but think I am going to get shafted. Again.
   
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Wow, that's so gakky. Definitely glad I dodged the bullet here.

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-- 7k Ragnarok 1st "Einherjar" Imperial Guard
-- 4k Knights Sovereign SM
-- 2k Pale Templars CSM
-- 2k Ordo Lucifer =I=
-- 1k Sisters SoB
-- 4k Solland's Ghosts WFB Dogs of War 
   
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At long last, after 3 years and 11 months, they got my final shipment to me. It is wrong, and they know it is wrong, but it is the same monetary value as my pledge so I am going to take what they have sent me and never deal with the most dishonest, disreputable and disappointing gaming company I have ever had the misfortune to give money to. Bunch of utter [MOD EDIT - Please do NOT use workarounds for the Expletive Filter - Alpharius]

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Definition of Irony!

PRODOS stand got robbed of €7k cash at Essen. Drop in the ocean compared to how much they've robbed from their KS backers. See their FB page for details.

Still waiting for my stuff from the KS I backed 4 years ago............

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A bit of everything really....... And where's the icons for DUST Tactics, Firestorm Armada, Super Dungeon Explore, Sedition Wars, Relic Knights, Epic Armageddon???? 
   
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Karma is real.

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What a trainwreck.

Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

"Feelin' goods, good enough". 
   
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I'm not going to be glad about theft, but I'm not exactly going to be sympathetic either to that situation given all of the shady crap Prodos has done.
   
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cornwall

Ive moved twice since the kickstarter haven't bothered changing my address to get my stuff . Really don't care anymore .
   
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I rate my AVP experience against the Battle Systems terrain I got interested in to play it on.

So while we wait for the outstanding AVP shipments, Battle Systems have launched their *fifth*

It's Cyberpunk Terrain. It can be purchased separately from the Core Space Game that's the focus of the Kickstarter, and will add to the very AVP friendly terrain they've already done.

I'm planning on combining it with their Urban set (an add on in the Kickstarter) to build a Predator II setting.

There was also that Alien 3 script about the Aliens let loose in a populated area, and it will work really well for that too.

hhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/core-space/description

   
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As you people might've heard, there are talks of Fox selling all their not-TV-stuff to Disney.
In worst case scenario, big D will revoke Prodos' license and everybody still waiting for their stuff or holding out for the still unproduced stuff may get shafted even more ...
Guess I'll bite the bullet and have my outstanding stuff replaced with items that are actually existing.
   
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 Moses Bad wrote:
As you people might've heard, there are talks of Fox selling all their not-TV-stuff to Disney.
In worst case scenario, big D will revoke Prodos' license and everybody still waiting for their stuff or holding out for the still unproduced stuff may get shafted even more ...
Guess I'll bite the bullet and have my outstanding stuff replaced with items that are actually existing.


Good luck. I’ve tried contacting them several times to do that and have yet to receive a reply.

Regardless of the potential buyout, I’ve written this off already.

"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" 
   
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I don’t know how I feel the idea of the House of Mouse acquiring the likes of Alien, but considering how practically nothing changed (outwardly) for FFG’s X-wing when Disney acquired Lucasfilm, I’m doubtful much will change with this KS (or Prodos - I’ve not seen Disney turn down money on anything, though they may ask for more).

It never ends well 
   
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Disney will honor the existing contract. But that's as far as it'll go. Disney won't likely extend the contract, or offer new ones.

As for what Prodos owes, that is still outstanding and a change in the licensing doesn't affect what the agreement was. It might mean that Prodos could be compelled to refund instead of deliver.

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Looks like Prodos is still messing up their shipping, etc. etc. From the Vanguard comments:

"Cherise Cobert Superbacker 2 days ago: It's incredibly disappointing that even after all this time, the "Buffalo, WY" issue still hasn't been resolved.I do have good news for anyone whose packages get routed there, however! Apparently, the issue is that addresses are formatted incorrectly on the labels. The correct address IS there, but so is info that causes packages to ultimately be sent to the USPS facility in Buffalo, WY. Thankfully (for us, at least), USPS has received SO MANY of these packages that they've just begun marking them correctly, then sending them off where they're supposed to go. No more issues with the packages being sent all the way back to Poland! On the other hand, I'm sure it's a huge hassle for USPS and certainly causes delays for us. No idea why Archon hasn't fixed this after 1+ months."

"Scott Michelson 2 days ago: Well the tracking number said delivered. I got some cards and a few tokens in a small package no expansion or stretch goal stuff. It’s all I’m missing at the moment. Strange."

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1915792245/vanguard-of-war-archon-studio/comments


RE-LOAD comments:

"Rob Superbacker on December 18 : @CREATOR THIS IS SERIOUSLY GETTING ME ANGRY ABOVE ANYTHING!!! WE PLEDGED A HECK OF MONEY FOR OUR PAINTED PLEDGES OF LOAD AND WE ACCEPTED DELAYS AND QUITE A FEW OF THEM! BUT NO COMMENTS NO SIGN AT ALL NOTHING FOR ANOTHER TWO MONTHS THIS IS INSANE!!! LAUNCHING PROJECT AFTER PROJECT NOT FINISHING ANYTHING YOU PROMISED!!! THIS REALLY SUXX !!! YOU TOLD US TO DELIVER BY FEBRUARY 2017 !!! WE HAVE NOW 10 MONTHS LATER AND NOTHING IS DELIVERED !!! YOU SEEM TO MAKE IT 12 MONTHS AND MORE OR WHAT??? **** IT !!!

Lukas \[T]/ on December 18 : Hi! It does not look like we will get answers here :( Maybe someone of you guys know the card size for gear, character and forest cards? Thank you!

Amarice on December 15: I guess because planning and management are not their forte. They have so much going on, but they can't stop the KS train.

Missing avatar: Stylianos K. Superbacker on December 15: Why sending two Games one Week apart and Not combined shipping?

Brian Pittman LoGiudice Superbacker on December 15: Repeatedly I have asked for help. You messaged me back about a problem from the original Load campaign that has long since been solved. What is going on? Why cant I get help about my current issue? I am trying and have been trying so hard to complete my pledge but no one has ever answered my questions about the load essentials pledge.

Missing avatar: Andrew on December 15 : Morning, I logged in checking to make sure everything is okay with my pledge. IT says I don't have access to it anymore?

Missing avatar: Nathan on December 13 : I have been trying to get some help from them for a while now because on their website they have 0 information for me. I have back load, vow and re-load but according to their new website my account has no information. I tried contacting them to get this cleared up and they took a full month just to tell me what I already told them in my first email to them. This is ridiculous because they claim that vow has begun shipping but I have almost no confidence that I will ever actually see either my vow pledge or my re-load pledge. I just want confirmation on what they will be sending me to make sure that I will be getting what I paid for and I know that I filled out all pledge managers the day after getting the email that they were up so I do t understand how my account has no information to it. If anyone else is having anything as close to as hard of a time as me then no wonder they have 500 incomplete pledges.

Philoctetes Superbacker on December 13: Still waiting for a response.......

Florian Kolhammer Superbacker on December 11: I sent you a message 3 days ago, can you please answer?

Riccardo on December 11: I wrote to request a refund for two months but I never received an answer

Gary Quek Superbacker on December 10: @Archon, sent plenty of message using ks pm and fb message but didn’t receive any help to complete my pledge manage, please kindly assist

Andy Superbacker on December 8: @ Archon, I've sent you guys messages through your website and through KS and have yet to get any kind of response yet. I was wondering how I can upgrade my $1 pledge to the Epic Upgrade pledge. I was a late backer to LOAD pledge so I'm assuming that's why the Epic upgrade doesn't pop up. Some kind of response would be appreciated it, thanks.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1915792245/re-load-by-archon-studio/comments

"And while I'm forgiving of one mishap, this string of incidences suggests the problem is with the project managers, not whom they hire, what materials they are using, what language their backers are using, etc. I do notice that entrepreneurs have more self-confidence than other people, and need it to persevere bad luck and obstacles. But this self-confidence can turn into "do nothing wrong" blindness, which prevents these people from admitting mistakes and improving themselves." -- September 3, 2014 
   
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...

There's been a lot of chat over on BoW forums - Prodos even chipped in with some interesting replies / info...

http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/sci-fi-gamer-town-square/forum/topic/calling-avp-kickstarter-backers/?topic_page=65&num=15

probus11p said 1 day, 23 hours ago:
Afternoon all, just wanted to join discussion.

I am the guy from Prodos Games.

English is my 2nd (in fact 3rd) language so sorry for any grammatical mistakes.

I scrolled back a few pages, to check comments and I think I could answer some of your questions.

I’ll be adding some jpg’s to back out my statements, I hope it will work (a new account limitations? )

1. PLEDGES: see screenshot Pledges .What ‘s left from AvP Kikstarter shipping ,this pledge manager was reset last year as we have found a serious issues with it and we needed to go pledge by pledge to re-do it) However the data in now, 95% correct:
- Partially sent: 1389 this is a number of KS backers that received 2nd or 3rd wave of their KS (and still awaiting on some remaining items like heads or others)
- Shipment: 457 this is the number of fully closed customers (all items delivered, closed )
- Awaiting 341 (here we have backers have not yet received anything or they had wave 1 only (just a game) (including backers that have closed the pledge manager but some data was/is missing for shipping)
- Activated and unactivated (105 this number represent backers that have not completed the pledge manager at all)

2. They need to take ownership of their mistake – Thanks for this comment, let me bring a bit inside what we are doing, in my opinion, to take/keep the ownership :

- We are still delivering/shipping pledges to the backers, no one is hiding, “going out of the business”, selling business or is doing anything else to avoid the responsibility. Prodos is delivering and it will deliver it, regardless of the costs associated with it. Apart of that I am not sure what else we can do to take the ownership for our mistakes.

2. They need to apologise for lying.

I am more than happy to apologise for miscommunication. Please bear in mind, we had a marketing person in the team back in 2014, Mark Rapson (now Word Forged Games), and the issues really was more complex.
I was the point of contact with FOX for approvals, Mark was doing marketing communication ( along with Rob iifc). When my frustration, due to lack of the contact gone through the roof Mark was stepping in. Anyhow bits of Information, if i was fortunate enough to reach anyone at FOX or got an email reply… was passed to Mark/Rob write an update. An really, we were giving in the updates information we had back then from fox. Unfortunately the information I was getting was in most of the cases wrong, like for instance: I was told that core game will be approved in June 2014, we got excited, announced shipping and all of that… than we got 7 months silence from Fox… in the end the game ,if i remember it correctly, was finally approved in September 2015. I counted 354 emails to fox and 4 (Four) back to us from them.
Attached in an emial from us dated : 25.02.2015, all materials in there.

3 reputation – I personally agree with this, it’s clear, Prodos reputation is bad and regardless of our actions it will stay bad, this is how it works. It needs to factors to change it 1. finish delivering avp, 2 stay in the business another 5-6 years after competition of the AvP KS. Here I have to add my personal feelings about all of this.
I think we’re victims of our own success, Prodos lack of experience in dealing with corporation got us into this issues we are now. It’s really only down to experience. In fact I was always wondering why the hell no one wanted AvP license before prodos from Fox, it’s clear that big boys can only work with big boys.. small developers with complex license products vs corporation are dead in the water.

4. communication – true, this one I have to say is one of the issue, the problem with it is whatever we say it will be labelled as a lie, thus, we are just making it happen by sending the pledges out.

5. Approved/ not approved – this is the main topic i wanted to really explain.
Approval process for any item was really time consuming, I mean to get a product approved it takes, per product, not as complex like the board game, about 3 months (packaging, models, and tokens). in may cases we had so called Revise (44 of them) every revise made process to start from the beginning.
In general, after sending all docs and product pictures, 1 step was to get a prototype approval based on style guide (3 weeks in average) then a physical prototype (4 weeks in average) and a manufacturing sample (5 weeks in average). as everything was going through a team of people in UK and USA… about 12 people in total, we almost always had some small changed (product was approved with changes, repeat process manufacturing sample, 5 weeks). Revised that was a nightmare, as it needed re-doing a model or packaging ect.

6. Financials – every not approved product was generating additional costs (design and development) , not to mention that the contractual request was to release a product to retail within 14 days of approval. So financially it was a shot in a foot for us.
We needed to release the product, however out of 5-10 products sent for approval only 1 was approved. Fox request was to send it to retail and pay royalties, in the same time we needed to serve backers… impossible dual-task as we would need to ship every single approved item to backers in a separate parcel… in the end we divided and covered from Prodos pocket shipping multiply waves, math is simple here: each wave is 2300 backers * 28 GBP a parcel (average) = 64400 GBP a wave x3 waves = 193200 shipping alone, and we charged each backer for a single shipping 10 GBP (that was another issue) nowadays, we are able to ship for much lower cost that back in 2014 or 15 due to quantities of parcels shipped, however what was spend on it it will never be regained.

7. and a final word: WE COULD NOT talk bad about FOX, under any circumstances, otherwise they would just take the license away immediately , so we, me, Prodos, for taking responsibility for delivering this project took all the heat. Big fish ate the small one, the small fish is to blame.

Any questions, drop a line here and I’ll try to answer.

please, if I may ask. stay civil, the information I am giving you here is as much accurate as can be. Thanks.
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probus11p said 1 day, 22 hours ago:
I am scrolling through emails and I found this one:
The day, that page was closed It was a right mess for us, Mark in a panic mode, made an update stating that it was us closing the page by mistake, if fact it was myself sending copy of prodos-fox emial conversation to KS to close it, they did that overnight.
To be honest, to this day I don’t know what was the issues with the page, once they said because there was no Copyrights on pictures, then that we only should share pictures of the final product and on a face to face meeting that pressure was from the top as they have seen Kickstarter (by mistake) as an investors tool with profit share (that would mean that backers were getting some % of their IP…). Regardless, as you see we have been pushing as much as possible with really stupid statements to get approval(like we will have it in huge retail stores meaning a lot of money for you from royalties … )

Now I am talking a bit more freely about all of this, I got more to share, however I’ll wait for Fox Disney deal.

What I can add is that Prodos is not the only small developer that was put in a deep S. We have been in touch with tree other companies, 2 of them (small digital games developers) went bankrupt, that had licenses from FOX (simsons or something) and never got an approval on their materials and they have been forced to pay so called Minimum Guarantee (around 60k GBP). I think Prodos was lucky, thanks to KS (after all some online pressure on FOX was there, until we have been forced to close the page down).
To back my statement I can say that license for Alien 2 is in hands of USA baased company for last 3 years and until now their product is not approved or released. There is one more game that meant to be released by French based company, Nostromo, i had a pleasure to play it this year at Essen, yes, approval again, well, they have been working on it 2 years with promises of release this Xmas.
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probus11p said 1 day, 7 hours ago:
@bigfatfred Hi Simon,

Let me explain the story behind AvP 2nd ed.

At the end of 2015 our contract with Fox was ending, post that date we would not be able to get anything from FOX in terms of approvals. As a lot of the items were still not approved, keeping in mind you we got the license in 2013 and it was now 2015, we came to fox to discuss this issue. The consensus was that, we would get an extension on the license, with another Minimum Guarantee, however we would need a new product in stores to a. Keep AvP bringing profits to fulfil pledges once we get stuff approved b.) to make profit and pay for license extension fees.

Back in 2015, financially, Prodos only really existed from services it provided to other companies, the cost of idle design staff etc lead to ongoing costs and retail sales on AvP have not been as high as hoped. Then we had to pay an additional licence extension cost to FOX with hopes that at some point we would get approval on the final items. The alternative option was to not extend the licence and fail to continue to deliver pledges.

A team was put together to make the new game happen which would a. allow us to deliver pledges, b) get the money in that we needed to keep the company running as there were commitments made to staff and backers.

Development of this game took almost a year and in December 2016, I had a phone call from fox letting me know that they were pulling the plug on the new game. Consider that we had a team set up for this developing and designing the game and a full year “wasted”. The blow to the team and the company was significant. We have tried re-kitting models and reusing some of the content from this unreleased game so that not everything was lost however the company was in serous financial difficulty and facing possible bankruptcy due to the additional costs and bill from FOX.

As evidence that Prodos wasn’t sitting on its hands, see below a link to the unreleased rulebook for the game.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hWJJg1v6Q36UTErpJPWZA-KdNPCY6UNN/view?usp=sharing

Well you’re probably wondering as to the reason as to why FOX pulled the game, to be honest, so was I and my team. Indeed many of us were wondering as to what was next. The reason given by FOX was that they were running(ruining depending on your view of the last few movies) a new strategy with AvP canon. I have nothing in writing from Fox as they ignored any written correspondence and I was only advised verbally.

Just to put some context on this, we now had 1. huge development cost for third new game 2. nothing approved from old items, and 3. a cancelled project.

I called a meeting with Fox, and we agreed, verbally, that we would get approval on 2nd edition as a compensation for this cancelled project. While this approval came through, it didn’t cover the losses. However we had no choice at all.

You mentioned WFG, this topic is really interesting as this company was created by all of directors of prodos, initially as a window for prodos to go back on Kikcstarter (Cerberum Games).

Usually I never mention Mark Rapson in my comments as we have had several disagreements over the years including several claims made by Mark which are untrue, however, he was playing an important role in prodos at the time which is the reason I mention him above. My intent here is not to blame Mark, but to point out that Prodos is not a one man company and while I as owner take ultimate responsibility now, Mark was also a director during the AVP KS.

In relation to Archon, in 2016 it delivered VoW on time and the same applies to our reprint of LOAD. Despite what Mr. Rapson and others claim, in an attempt to destroy this company through posts on KS, this company continues to grow and will continue putting out high quality games and miniatures.
Back on to approval :

1. We have sent the terrain for approval 5 times now but it keeps coming back. We will have a final shot at this, following which, we will have to exchange this for other items. I’m hopeful that we have fixed the problems with the terrain however I’ve said this before about other items which haven’t been approved by FOX.
2. On the other items, I know that a number of these are in production however I’ll need to get an update from my team on Tuesday, today being a Sunday and New Years eve.
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Even if 100% of what Jarek wrote is true (unlikely given his previously documented posting veracity), it doesn't explain or excuse his actions towards customers such as ignoring messages, blocking them on facebook, and insulting them in various posts over the years.
   
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 warboss wrote:
Even if 100% of what Jarek wrote is true (unlikely given his previously documented posting veracity), it doesn't explain or excuse his actions towards customers such as ignoring messages, blocking them on facebook, and insulting them in various posts over the years.


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Oh Jarek, you tease...

probus11p said 1 hour, 58 minutes ago:
Afternoon all, the team is telling me that “message” Kickstarter button is not active anymore on AvP KS page. The update will be out to your KS emails on Monday. Thanks.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/sci-fi-gamer-town-square/forum/topic/calling-avp-kickstarter-backers/?topic_page=68&num=15#post-223774

Note he doesn't say which Monday...

From an earlier comment regarding clear Preds, it doesn't sound hopeful if you pledged for any non core game clear Preds...

probus11p said 1 day, 17 hours ago:
Sorry I have been away few days due to sickness.

Thanks, the team is working on an update.

There is a question regarding clear predators. See attached picture of the clear predators stock. They are being shipped, however, according to pledge manager, there were only 350 backers with clear predators (core game ones).

We had them approved (tools and model) from HIPS back in 2015.

However, the company that gave us an initial quote back in 2013 for HIPS models, change it dramatically. IIRC, it was from 1 USD a sprue (board game needed around 10 sprues for all models) to 3 USD a sprue. On top of that tooling was increased for another 40k USD. We ended up with just 1 tool for predators. Financially it was no go for remaining items, so we ended up making it all from resin, in-house.
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Afternoon Backers!















Prodos has been changing over the last 12 months resulting in part to the reduced communications as the company has changed its strategic direction with new management and shareholders. Some of you will be aware of the changes and other difficulties the company had in 2017, which I’ll go into later. We can only apologize for this.Well, where are we? First things first.

AVP backer parcels are still being sent out.

According to the data on our pledge manager we have:
459 backers have already received their full pledge.
1391 backers are waiting for their last shipment: these are mainly elements like alternative heads or multipose marines.
337 are still waiting for 2nd or 3rd shipping,
and we have a group of more than 100 backers who have not yet completed the pledge manager or we’re missing their full shipping data.

We are holding parcels until all elements for that parcel are available to be shipped as one shipment.











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Onto approval














Bad News

Resin terrain is the only element, that after six attempts, that we have not managed to get approval on. This means that 120 backers will receive an email and code for the value of the pledge for the resin terrain. This can be used for anything in our online store. We are disappointed with not getting the approval for this but we’re looking to complete this KS as soon as possible.

Good News

Multipose marines are in production as well as other elements like alternative heads.

Mixed News

While some clear Predators have been produced and posted, we’re still having issues with these between the long curing process, damaged shipments and EU restrictions on the type of resin we can use. We’re currently looking at outsourcing this but we are afraid we don’t have a timeframe for you. We hope to issue an update in the near future on these.

In 2017, many changes took place in Prodos, starting with new management, and a new CEO. There has also been a slight change of strategic direction for Prodos who are now aimed at practical special effects for the film industry, mainly utilizing silicone products. This will not affect the AVP KS and management understand the need to complete this KS as soon as possible. A separate company is now working exclusively on boardgames.














So, what does this mean for you?














Following a rocky 2017, the financial liquidity of Prodos has improved and the funds are there for the completion of AvP. Thanks to the contacts and network of the new owners, we have also managed to speed up the approval process with FOX.

Extension of Kickstarter exclusive
We value our backers and understand that many of you are rightly angry and frustrated at us as a company. No amount of apologies will fix this. What we do want to try do is increase the value of your pledges for supporting us through the last 3 years. We have noted the high prices that some models have been sold for on various bidding sites.

The items listed below are now not going to be released to retail. This means that the items below will be recategorised as KS Exclusives thus increasing the value of your pledge. We hope that this will compensate you for the delays and as thanks for backing us.

- Lin Kurosava- Clear predators (main box)
- Dutch
- AlienEggs
- Female Predator
- Alternative heads
- Sergeant
- all mission objectives
- Predator ship tiles
- custom dice

We would like to emphasize that Prodos will continue to publish products for AvP and WZR as long as the license owners allow.
















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As a reminder, we recently received a large number of returns. Please check your addresses in the pledge manager.















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Contact us















You can always reach us by an e-mail:
contact@prodosgames.com

Many thanks,
Prodos Crew






big gaps are from some heading in the email being done in images that dakka isn't letting me copy across


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and from the beasts of war thread

probus11p said 13 minutes ago:


1st batch of emails (for resin terrain backers store credit) will roll out tomorrow. It’s manual operation as we have to go through every pledge, however, I think 16 working hours should be more than enough to fix that.

@biggus, the link to wargaming rules will be available next week here: http://avp.prodosgames.com/downloads

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1728 backers are still waiting..?



That is a bigger number than I expected..

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Such rookies... Palladium's Kevin Siembieda is keeping more than double that number waiting for about the same length of time with no end in sight! :(
   
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“Trying to complete this KS as soon as possible”

Forgive me if I find that hard to believe.

And “making things KS exclusive” by deciding they no longer work for your 2nd edition game is a bit of a stretch...

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FFG had teased something about an ALIENS game for release next year in a release last month.

Don't know if it's an update/re-release of the old board game, or something new (OLD LEG ALIENS board game) though.

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Gale Force 9 have an Aliens board game coming too.

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